FRL_Air mod WIP

[sv5000 127]

agree on your thoughts re laser etc. As a pilot in a two seater if it also has a gunner and you are on manual fire, your flying/aiming/firing/countermeasures its just another thing that i don't think you need to worry about + if its implemented for the gunner and you really want to do it just go manual fire?

just my 2c

[eggbeast 3673]

he's asking for it for the solo pilot of an AV8 or A10 i think. I'm not sure how it would work though, and whether this is something realistic.

[sv5000 127]

ohhh ok i didn't really read his post that closely. hmmm I think the current ins/gps system works fine, its basically the same thing but without the fancy camera view.

[eggbeast 3673]

using a laser designator inside the cockpit is tricky enough, as we have found using it on the A6 intruder, F4 phantom and F105-F thunderchief...

the munition takes time to hit the target, and the camera cannot look 360 degrees, so you need to line up correctly, set a course to target, set altitude and speed correctly (slow speed and medium height) then the gunner locks his laser and fires the bomb, then guides onto target. this works ok, but there are drawbacks:

1. the munition can take so long to hit ground level that the camera loses sight of the target

2. the gunner may not be able to see the target clearly when he has to start his firing procedure, meaning it's a little dodgy that he may be firing without ever being able to acquire his target (ok in nam lol but not in modern fighting ROE)

3. you cannot give the gunner control of the aircraft machine-gun (e.g. by placing it in his turret weapons/magazines) or else his gun becomes a moving turret weapon!

4. the plane is at very high risk of being successfully engaged by ground fire during this run

so to make this work in solo pilot, the drawbacks would be:

1. the pilot would not be looking where he was going, and his controls would be lost in camera view - if the munition took a while to hit target this period of loss of control would be prohibitive

2. it is possible that his cannon would be able to move like a blister-turret - not good

3. the acquisition time to lock laser targets can be quite long, meaning he would need to be in camera mode for a long time BEFORE approaching target, especially in MP. this means that he would have trouble lining up on a target properly.

are there any good examples of this working in arma in solo pilot mode? i've never used mando missile, nor ACE.

basically, in combat atm we use an apache, hokum, hind, lynx, ah6x, JTAC spotter or bradley warhammer, btr90 etc to lase targets for aircraft.

in arma JDAM's have IR and laser lock so you can do both targeting types with those bombs.

also all our gunships can lase targets and fire at the laser with their appropriate missiles.

[eggbeast 3673]

ok AT missiles done for the hind, including racks for AT2, AT6 and AT9

weapon config DONE

remake proxies for 4 choppers DONE

next up:

edit the wings on the Mi35VM

repro the model.cfg for all hinds

vehicle config the variants, with anims and effects scripts, factions, skins, etc

add pickles sounds

binarise models

new: re-skins?

new: ideally, make the GUV gunpod (2 types) and the S24 rocket

it's like a production line we have going here!

Edited September 4, 2014 by eggbeast

[cychou 11]

are there any good examples of this working in arma in solo pilot mode? i've never used mando missile, nor ACE.

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Mando missile is indeed a good example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgS9MPF1H-k

this is basically what i was suggesting, but with a smoother camera control, similar to the camera available on AH64 and Cobra and a laser designator similar to the ACE system.

If you like realism and advanced features and other amazing stuff for arma 2 you should greatly try ACE. it's available for free on Play With Six software. it changes nearly everything (ballistic, sounds, visual effects, new weapons, vehicles, reticles, interraction system, healing system and much more...) the degree of realism is just bluffing, much more serious than the original version. you guys would probably like it since you created your mod with the same spirit.

Edited September 4, 2014 by cychou

[eggbeast 3673]

very useful demo. thanks!

so the pilot has a 360 degree targeting camera, which he uses to create a laser designation target on his crosshair. He can lock the camera to this target, and this combined with 360 degree swivel allows him to easily target and deploy laser tracking weapons.

I need now to check what bomb targeting systems exist that are remotely like this because I am unsure of how they work IRL.

re ACE, it comes with too much baggage for many modders like myself to want to use it.

[cychou 11]

so the pilot has a 360 degree targeting camera, which he uses to create a laser designation target on his crosshair, He can lock the camera to this target, and this combined with 360 degree swivel allows him to easily target and deploy laser tracking weapons..

exactly.

aim, activate laser designator, launch your laser guided bomb or missile and booooom. these states of the art camera have girostabilization system to keep aiming on target with maximum stability :

here an example of the FLIR SAFIRE-HD

I need now to check what bomb targeting systems exist that are remotely like this because I am unsure of how they work IRL.

you mean targeting pod models ?

well, the US forces mainly use the SNIPER ATP (equiping most of US air forces planes) made by Lockeed Martin.

SNIPER ATP :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sniper_Advanced_Targeting_Pod

Edited September 5, 2014 by cychou

[eggbeast 3673]

ok today's updates for inclusion in next release:

F-35/B added with VTOL and proper proxies in weapon bays, no wing pylons.

F-35/A and F-35/B both have animated weapon bays, when you launch a weapon for them they open and close.

improved shelldrop fx (includes new gunpods) added to Mi24, ka52, AH64D, AH1Z, F35, AV8, Su25, AH6

added new lights to AH1Z

fixed some missing rvmats (mainly in ka52/ su25 lights)

added HUD to Mi24 series

added random open/close of Mi24 doors at init

added slower engine init to all missiles so they drop off pylons before ignition

added animated tail flame to various missiles

added improved missile model for vikhr/ataka series

added improved AT2 missile and racks

added GUV gunpod (config only atm)

fixed vikhr speed

added GPS lock to KH-31

finished mi24 sound inclusion from cmsound mod

mi24 config completed for

---mi24D (Hind D)

---mi24VP (Hind-E mod 0)

---mi24P (Hind-F)

added moving searchlights to AH1Z/W, AH64D, Ka52

mi35VM model/config to do

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the SNIPER ATP (equiping most of US air forces planes) made by Lockeed Martin.

sold! I want one for my bike...

ok i'll contact mando and see if i can include his pod system in the box...

Edited September 8, 2014 by eggbeast

[eggbeast 3673]

Desert Su25's for the Russian Air Force

Just in - A10 skins from Stiltman/Tobe - thanks so much!

L-159 ALCA completed (needs a re-skin though)

Su-25 factions done

A-10 factions done

EB_Air duplicated stuff set to scope 1 to reduce confusion

[eggbeast 3673]

sweeeeet, i just got the independent laser targeting camera working in the Su34 gunner seat! uhrah!

so gunner can target ground with his laser designator and strike targets with missiles and bombs that lock this.

thanks to Aplion for showing me how! all that work we did on the A6 has paid off here.

working on 76 new proxies for the wings and body so we can kit them out like this:

http://military.tomsk.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=28152&mode=view (291 kB)

[sv5000 127]

Awesome!

[eggbeast 3673]

ok some workshop pics of the upcoming Su-34 Fullback makeover

features:

- desert and blue skins

- authentic countermeasures

- 1,2,3,4,6x bomb racks

- 9 different pre-set roles + variable role with selectable loadouts

- gunner and pilot can swap seats (easier to rearm plane)

- gunner has targeting camera with FLIR and laser designator for tracking targets

- range of authentic weapons including: S8, S13, R73, R77, R27, kh25, kh29, kh58, fab100, fab250, fab500, kab250, kab500, betAB500, ZB500

- afterburner and wheelbrakes

- proper speed and envelope

- shelldrop on gun

pics here have busted rvmats, couple of stand-in models and some pylon adjustments to do, but you get the idea

it could also do with a proper texture artist rather than just me fiddling about in photoshop but hey ho

this is the kind of loadout series we've developed

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t247/eggbeast/Su-34pylons_zps2c9bfecf.gif (132 kB)

and here are the proxies i made to facilitate multi-rack loadouts

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t247/eggbeast/su34proxies_zps84944b71.jpg (187 kB)

Edited September 13, 2014 by eggbeast

[eggbeast 3673]

oh boy, now i am made up properly... Feint just gave us permission to include his amazing F35 reskins in this mod pack

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=6807

and SuperRat said yes to include his mi24 skins here

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=10088

awesome!

Edited September 14, 2014 by eggbeast

[sv5000 127]

Great news!

[eggbeast 3673]

desert AH6 skin from spock working - few tweaks to do

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t247/eggbeast/lb2_zpsb2da3c93.jpg (239 kB)

Edited September 15, 2014 by eggbeast

[eggbeast 3673]

su34 variable bomb racks and aiming camera completed for testing

and here is the gunner using an AS12 to kill a tank

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t247/eggbeast/su34_as12_strike_zps8d3c1b0c.jpg (125 kB)

and hunting in FLIR

and after a kab-1500 drop, looking back at the carnage

Edited September 16, 2014 by eggbeast

[eggbeast 3673]

AV8 completed!

su25 having a slight problem with the vikhr launcher using this point... checking proxies...fixed! needs no entry in proxyshape to use that mem point...

https://manuals.bisimulations.com/vbs2/1-50/devref/Content/Config_Manual/CfgVehicles/M_cpp/cpp_memoryPointLMissile.htm

Edited September 16, 2014 by eggbeast

[eggbeast 3673]

RAF harrier skin made - hoping we can make a hiddenselection now to make use of it

it's based on no4 sqdn like this

[eggbeast 3673]

taking the green A10 out for some fun with a stack of 18 mk82's

2 ripples of 2 snake-eyes inbound...

[eggbeast 3673]

ok we did it! 4 squadron harrier at your service

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t247/eggbeast/harrierfire_zps0a838aa8.jpg (122 kB)

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t247/eggbeast/harrier_fleet-1_zps05e02ce8.jpg (104 kB)

thanks to BigPickle they also play RAF radio chatter in the cockpit

at the moment it still has a GAU12 but i may take that off...

here are some shots of the new F-35/A and F-35/B in USMC and RAF livery

- USMC skins by Feint

- RAF (imaginary) skins by Eggbeast, based on Feint's skinpack

- animations by Eggbeast, based on nes4days work on F-22

- weapon models by Myke (90%), Eggbeast, Von Knudenberg, unsung mod.

- Plane model by BIS of course

- Sounds by BigPickle

- model edit, configs and scripts by Eggbeast and von Knudenberg (+ John Spartan, Myke, Rock, wld427, UNN, Gnat, Heinbloed, hcpookie, etc as per readme)

USMC F-35/A

(108 kB)

USMC F-35/B

RAF F-35/A and /B test site

(105 kB)

RAF F-35/A in flight

Releasing a GBU-39 SDB from the body bay

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hmm something went wrong with the cargoanims in the harrier

Edited September 17, 2014 by eggbeast

[eggbeast 3673]

mission successful testing the 2 seater su34 with added bomb aiming camera/laser designator

Pilot: Eggbeast

WSO: Crusader

Variety of targets engaged from T90, SA13, BTR90 through to buildings, infantry clusters, and GPS/INS target data

Weapons: kab500, kab1500, AS11, AS12

Weapon release ranges: 500m to 5000m. Optimum 2000m

Fly in height: 400m to 2200m. optimum 750m

Attack speed: 400 kph to 1200 kph, optimum 5-600 kph

AoA flat, no look down required by pilot

Hit rate: 100%

Damage: Significant, effective, battle-winning.

Edited September 18, 2014 by eggbeast

[eggbeast 3673]

ok so next up is a workover of the old "twin fixed gunpod + moving nose-mounted gun" tracer and muzzle-flash problem...

evidence that this may / may not work?

twin miniguns on AH6J work fine

in unsung mod we have a cobra-G that fires twin tracers from the wing-mounted miniguns and singletracer from the nose mgun

we also have hueys with twin miniguns or quad M60s that fire twin tracer, and doorguns that fire single, and all have muzzle-flash

A2 tunguska has twin cannon tracers, though

shilka has 4x tracers

Zu23 has one tracer line (having looked, it is missing a second set of memory points for chamber and muzzle 2)

BMP2 has both cannon and mgun tracer and flash from single turret...

so plan is to make this work as follows:

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t247/eggbeast/gunpodplan_zps6b9e559d.jpg (189 kB)

Edited September 19, 2014 by eggbeast

[eggbeast 3673]

and here it is!

normal turret gun manual fires with muzzleflash/clouds on body gun

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t247/eggbeast/ka52pods3_zps8f69d62b.jpg (273 kB)

and single tracer

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t247/eggbeast/ka52pods2_zpscd3628fd.jpg (374 kB)

single shell drop

and now we have a twin wing-mounted UPK gunpod firing (stand-in model, pete is making a new one)

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t247/eggbeast/ka52_pods7_zpsf7412175.jpg (157 kB)

and muzzle flash/clouds

and double shell drop

coming soon to a Hokum and Hind near you... (in pairs)

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t247/eggbeast/upk-23_wip_2_zps2e373136.jpg (115 kB)

Edited September 19, 2014 by eggbeast

[Bill70 EW 7]

OMFG............ nice one Rob ...... I know I've said this often enough in the past but Many thanks m8 for your time and effort ..... I am certainly looking forward to trying these out hurrhurr ..........

Bill !!!