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This doesn't look at all comfortable...

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I found this on the Jane's website:

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Objective Individual Combat Weapon (16/08/00)

The OICW will be capable of firing both standard 5.56mm kinetic-energy ammunition as well as a new 20mm high-explosive airbursting round.

© Photo: Alliant Techsystems.

... this REALLY looks uncomfortable.  Is anyone truly considering manufacturing this, and/or is any nation's army really THAT interested in permanently displacing their infantrymen's shoulders by forcing them to wedge this weapon (which is roughly the size of Bermuda) in a firing position?

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With a built-in coffee brewer and ice dispenser, I couldn't imagine a soldier not being happy to get his hands on one.

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Ah yes, the OICW, looks pretty big but who knows what an enjoyment it is to handle it.....

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Well, I hear they were going to come out with another bizarre weapon... but something happened to their field tester...

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... at least that one had more promise. It looked more comfortable.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Demagor @ Sep. 10 2002,11:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">... this REALLY looks uncomfortable.  Is anyone truly considering manufacturing this, and/or is any nation's army really THAT interested in permanently displacing their infantrymen's shoulders by forcing them to wedge this weapon (which is roughly the size of Bermuda) in a firing position?<span id='postcolor'>

Well, if you think about it, no army in their right mind would field a weapon that would compromise the health of the soldier reducing his effectiveness. So i'm pretty sure it wouldnt be THAT tough to handle.

I know Heckler and Koch and Alliant Techsystems have been working on this a lot, but last i heard it was definitely still in the development stages.

Check it out in more depth at HK Pro. I think they're down right now, but keep that site in mind. Lots of good stuff.

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The OCIwhatsitsnamethingys just an ordinary rifle and grenadde launcher except the grenade timers linked to a rangefinder :o

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Demagor @ Sep. 11 2002,06:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I found this on the Jane's website:

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Looks like something from Starship Troopers......

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reminds me of cars like these!

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I mean it is a pure HK with something badly built on top of it (you can see the two things not realy fitting together).They should rather try to implement those huge things on top of the HK into the backpack and connect it with a visual aid in the helmet. Or whatever solution there may be, but that thing can only be used as a cudgel  tounge.gif

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bet some of you didn't know that the OICW was designed by the Brittish. looks real scary though.

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no i think its supposed to be a replacement for the M4. they have a OICW type machine gun for support.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (nolips71 @ Sep. 10 2002,22:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ps ikonboard smilies look gay<span id='postcolor'>

Actually they're bisexual.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ Sep. 11 2002,00:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (nolips71 @ Sep. 10 2002,22:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ps ikonboard smilies look gay<span id='postcolor'>

Actually they're bisexual.<span id='postcolor'>

ROFL!

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The OICW is both ugly, and cubersome. It weighs in at something like 9kg, which is around 3 times the wieght of the M4 and M16 it will replace. Its only saving grace is its fire power and advanced systems, but how well will all those computer chips and stuff fair in combat conditions?

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Col. Kurtz @ Sep. 11 2002,02:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The OICW is both ugly, and cubersome. It weighs in at something like 9kg, which is around 3 times the wieght of the M4 and M16 it will replace. Its only saving grace is its fire power and advanced systems, but how well will all those computer chips and stuff fair in combat conditions?<span id='postcolor'>

Quite, I think it's size alone will be very limiting.

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Its a bit like making an Interceptor the size of a B-52. Even if it has the best missile in the world and advanced systems, its size is a real let down.........

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It is pretty big. looks like they kind of went a little out of their way to make it look extra futuristic for Congress confused.gif

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No offence to you Americans out there, but the US Military do seem to think Bigger is better......

6,000lb 'Daisy Cutter Bomb'

.50cal Sniper Rifles

B-52's

Huge Aircraft Carriers

And now the OICW

OICW-One Insanley Cubersome Weapon

One Incompetent Cash Waster

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Ok after my opinion this is good weapon for long range targets. But what do you do in close combat where you have to move from room to room. The weight of this weapon and the langth it's to d*mn big.

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Another thing, if the OICW in SOF2 is anything to go by(which it is probably not even though Mullins is a real Merc), the 20mm grenade launcher is very fiddly and takes time to use. It is only really good for targets that are not going to shoot back. You cant just point and shoot. You have to lase a target, and all this other stuff and if the target is too close, then you cant fire.

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I personally think the AAI corp. model was more practical and compact looking. If it had gone through the amount of beta testing and revision that the current model had, they probably would have gotten something more maneuverable.

This design is at least a little shorter:

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