Where do you turn for news?

[Col. Kurtz 0]

I trust no single news source. I like to look around. If Im looking at newspapers, I will look at the Heral Sun(utter trash, spends nearly every single fronty page mourning some movie star getting wrinkle) the Age, pretty good and the Australian. Despite the name, the Australian has the best World News section!

I like to search and compare news to get a broad view.

[Sadico 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Der Spiegel<span id='postcolor'>

Hey Albert, my parents read that magazine!  I've seen it a lot of times at home

Main spanish newspapers

El Pais

El Mundo

ABC

Other news sources:

CNN

Pravda

Reuters

Yahoo

BBC

[Tex -USMC- 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SirLoins @ Sep. 10 2002,05:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That explains it all.  The reason you think FOX is GOP is because you are so used to listening to and reading those liberal rags....The Washington Post , Newsweek and Time are some of the most liberal rags in the country.  You can't deny that.

So when you see Fox, which IS balanced and gives two points of view, your mind is confused into thinking it's conservative.  Keep watching, you may one day see the light.

<span id='postcolor'>

LOL, that is fuckin rich. There is only ONE liberal on Fox, (Colmes) and he is always getting shouted down on the (supposedly) balanced show Hannity and Colmes. And for your information, The Economist is about as conservative as a European magazine can be- they endorse Bush, and endorse conservative policies, but UNLIKE Fox, they offer high quality reporting and their analysis is always well thought out and gives equal time to both sides.

As for Newsweek and the Willie Pete, just because they can occasionally remove their tongues from G Dubyas ass every once in a while (unlike Fox) to question his very questionable policies- well, I dont have a problem with that. But guess what pal? It aint all about liberal and conservative. Im not either. All I care about IS seeing two sides of the issue. thats why occasionally I watch O'reilly, not because he allows two opinions to coexist on his show (lmao), but because he offers a different opinion than other shows on other channels.

Look, I dont mind that Fox is conservative, no skin off my back, but that doesnt change the fact that it IS a conservative news channel. Anyone who thinks otherwise is sorely mistaken.

[Tex -USMC- 0]

Example:

I was just watching Fox, and they just had one of there 'fair and balanced' debates. They were supposedly debating whether we should go to war with Iraq. What they were really debating was whether we should hang Saddam or just shoot him.

[DarkLight 0]

I never go look somewhere for news, if there's somehtign special that i need to know i'm sure i'll hear it on the radio or while watching tv.....

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sadico @ Sep. 10 2002,15:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Der Spiegel<span id='postcolor'>

Hey Albert, my parents read that magazine!  I've seen it a lot of times at home <span id='postcolor'>

You got smart parents !

It is very socialist though, so I alway skip the "national politics" chapter!

[Warin 0]

For you americans near the border:

Watch CBC Newsworld, or read cbc.ca

It's unbiased and concise (Unless you are talking about hockey ). Something lacking in most american news outlets

[Guest]

One point: The thing that you call 'conservative' in USA is actually ultra liberal by definition.

It is kind of twisted in USA but by classical definition liberals advocate personal freedom, minimal interference from the government in the lives of the citizens etc. This is exactly what US conservatives do.

In Sweden for instance the liberals belong to the right wing.

[Die Alive 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Warin @ Sep. 10 2002,13:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For you americans near the border:

Watch CBC Newsworld, or read cbc.ca

It's unbiased and concise (Unless you are talking about hockey ).  Something lacking in most american news outlets <span id='postcolor'>

I don' like it, it's a crown corporation. And I don't like my tax dollars being used for Hockey Night in Canada and paying for that Don Cherry guy.

-=Die Alive=-

[Warin 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Die Alive @ Sep. 10 2002,19:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Warin @ Sep. 10 2002,13:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For you americans near the border:

Watch CBC Newsworld, or read cbc.ca

It's unbiased and concise (Unless you are talking about hockey ).  Something lacking in most american news outlets <span id='postcolor'>

I don' like it, it's a crown corporation.  And I don't like my tax dollars being used for Hockey Night in Canada and paying for that Don Cherry guy.  

-=Die Alive=-<span id='postcolor'>

LOL.

Hockey Night in Canada actually EARNS money. The CBC is great. They might be a crown corporation, but they are totally impartial in their reporting. Try saying that about a network whose owner might actually have an agenda. *cough*Fox*cough*

As for Don Cherry...give your head a shake. I may not agree with his rantings all the time, but he has the courage to say what he means and feels no matter what people think. And that IS refreshing in this politically correct era.

[Die Alive 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Warin @ Sep. 10 2002,14:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hockey Night in Canada actually EARNS money.  The CBC is great. They might be a crown corporation, but they are totally impartial in their reporting.  Try saying that about a network whose owner might actually have an agenda. *cough*Fox*cough*

As for Don Cherry...give your head a shake.  I may not agree with his rantings all the time, but he has the courage to say what he means and feels no matter what people think. And that IS refreshing in this politically correct era.<span id='postcolor'>

Wow, HNIC earns money, then how about when the CBC shows the Canadian lawn bowling championship, what does that make them?

I pay as much attention to Don Cherry as I do to drunken homeless people ranting on the street. He would scold a player for a hit from behind on HNIC, and then release a "Rock'em, Sock'em BEST HITS OF HOCKEY" video and include the same mentioned cheap hit in the video. He played one game in the NHL, coached for 6 years, and that makes him the Canadian ambassador to hockey?

-=Die Alive=-

[Warin 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Die Alive @ Sep. 10 2002,20:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Wow, HNIC earns money, then how about when the CBC shows the Canadian lawn bowling championship, what does that make them?  

I pay as much attention to Don Cherry as I do to drunken homeless people ranting on the street.  He would scold a player for a hit from behind on HNIC, and then release a "Rock'em, Sock'em BEST HITS OF HOCKEY" video and include the same mentioned cheap hit in the video.  He played one game in the NHL, coached for 6 years, and that makes him the Canadian ambassador to hockey?

-=Die Alive=-<span id='postcolor'>

All programming has to turn a profit? And if there is advertising during said programming, then yes, it's paying for itself.

As for Don Cherry...

Like him or hate him, he knows about hockey. Coaching for 6 years at an NHL level does make him an expert. The difference is that you dont agree with his views. And thats ok. A lot of people think he's a schmuck. But saying he doesnt know hockey is like saying that the colour guys on ABC dont know anything about football. I am sure Frank Gifford would take offence at that

[joltan 0]

online news feeds:

- Der Spiegel (daily)

- BBC online (almost daily)

print media:

- local newspaper (not daily, but often)

- Der Spiegel (not every week, but often)

- Süddeutsche (from time to time)

- Die Zeit (from time to time)

- Frankfurter Allgemeine (from time to time)

- Frankfurter Rundschau (from time to time)

- el Mundo (if I can get my hands on it)

- el Pais (if I can get my hands on it)

- The Guardian (if I can get my hands on it)

TV news:

- ARD Tagesthemen (only thing I watch on tv on a regular base)

- BBC news (they can be watched via internet)

In addition I sometimes get to hear some news when I'm driving around and have the radio on. But mostly I get my news from online or print sources.

[SirLoins 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Posted: Sep. 10 2002,15:18

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Quote (SirLoins @ Sep. 10 2002,059)

That explains it all. The reason you think FOX is GOP is because you are so used to listening to and reading those liberal rags....The Washington Post , Newsweek and Time are some of the most liberal rags in the country. You can't deny that.

So when you see Fox, which IS balanced and gives two points of view, your mind is confused into thinking it's conservative. Keep watching, you may one day see the light.

LOL, that is fuckin rich. There is only ONE liberal on Fox, (Colmes) and he is always getting shouted down on the (supposedly) balanced show Hannity and Colmes. And for your information, The Economist is about as conservative as a European magazine can be- they endorse Bush, and endorse conservative policies, but UNLIKE Fox, they offer high quality reporting and their analysis is always well thought out and gives equal time to both sides.

As for Newsweek and the Willie Pete, just because they can occasionally remove their tongues from G Dubyas ass every once in a while (unlike Fox) to question his very questionable policies- well, I dont have a problem with that. But guess what pal? It aint all about liberal and conservative. Im not either. All I care about IS seeing two sides of the issue. thats why occasionally I watch O'reilly, not because he allows two opinions to coexist on his show (lmao), but because he offers a different opinion than other shows on other channels.

Look, I dont mind that Fox is conservative, no skin off my back, but that doesnt change the fact that it IS a conservative news channel. Anyone who thinks otherwise is sorely mistaken.

<span id='postcolor'>

Tex, you mentioned one lliberal on Fox. Now name one conservative on ABC NBC or CBS. I'll give you a hint, George F. Will on ABC's This Week with now George Stephanopolis. Ever seen George Will try to get a word in edgewise?

Let me see on Fox there is also Marla Liason, Mort Kondrake, Greta VanSusterin, Geraldo Rivera.

You bitch about Hannity & Colmes. Two sides, two opinions. Where's the beef?

Also, I never blasted you for the Economist. I also think it's good to watch a variety of news. I still stomach Dan Rather once and a while. You must know your enemies and what they are up to.

I still stand by my opinion, that your so used to watching left wing bias, that when Fox came along and tried to be center, it was so far off what everyone was used to, it seems conservative.

One other think, in terms you seem to understand, ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN(clinton news network) still have their tongues up Bill Clintons ass. You say your not liberal or conservative. The short time I've been of this forum I have seen dozens and dozens of your post. Buddy, if you ain't liberal, your in denial. Hey I admit I'm conservative. The problem with liberals is they try to hide it. Be proud of what you are and fight for your beliefs, that's what I do. Nothing wrong with that.

[Othin 0]

Not sure why I forgot to mention this, but any American military or government service civilians can use the Early Bird. For being a government run news service the opinion and editorial sections are pretty multi-view. You have to log in with your social security number if your at home, and if your on a gov or mil computer it should log right in.

For those of you that don't know Early Bird is a news clipping service run by a few different government agencies. Tom Clancy mentions it a few times in his books...

[Tex -USMC- 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SirLoins @ Sep. 11 2002,02:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">short time I've been of this forum I have seen dozens and dozens of your post.  Buddy, if you ain't liberal, your in denial.  Hey I admit I'm conservative.  The problem with liberals is they try to hide it.  Be proud of what you are and fight for your beliefs, that's what I do.  Nothing wrong with that.<span id='postcolor'>

You've only seen one side of my opinions because we only argue the same 5 things over and over again. You have no idea where I stand on other issues. And just because I dont stick to the conservative line, does not mean I am all of a sudden a liberal. There is such thing as a middle ground, and that is where I am 90% of the time. I think that you, however, are being snowed by the news you watch. Saying that Fox offers an equal balance of views because they offer up a few sacrificial lambs to the conservative slaughter is like saying that Rush Limbaugh is a balanced show because he occasionnally takes a call from some half-crazed democommie.

Also, I never said anything about other news shows being one-sided themselves. I am fully aware that all news shows have some political agenda or their own ulterior motives, which is why I avoid them for the most part. Now, what you need to realise, is that there are more flavors to life than ultra conservative, conservative, liberal, and ultra liberal.

[bogo 0]

Well mostly i read these ones:

DR

Cnn

BBC

Politiken

[brgnorway 0]

Papers:

Aftenposten

Bergnes Tidende

Dagens Nćringsliv

Channels:

NRK

BBC World

Svt 1

TV4

[SirLoins 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Posted: Sep. 11 2002,22:22

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Quote (SirLoins @ Sep. 11 2002,02:34)

short time I've been of this forum I have seen dozens and dozens of your post. Buddy, if you ain't liberal, your in denial. Hey I admit I'm conservative. The problem with liberals is they try to hide it. Be proud of what you are and fight for your beliefs, that's what I do. Nothing wrong with that.

You've only seen one side of my opinions because we only argue the same 5 things over and over again. You have no idea where I stand on other issues. And just because I dont stick to the conservative line, does not mean I am all of a sudden a liberal. There is such thing as a middle ground, and that is where I am 90% of the time. I think that you, however, are being snowed by the news you watch. Saying that Fox offers an equal balance of views because they offer up a few sacrificial lambs to the conservative slaughter is like saying that Rush Limbaugh is a balanced show because he occasionnally takes a call from some half-crazed democommie.

Also, I never said anything about other news shows being one-sided themselves. I am fully aware that all news shows have some political agenda or their own ulterior motives, which is why I avoid them for the most part. Now, what you need to realise, is that there are more flavors to life than ultra conservative, conservative, liberal, and ultra liberal.

<span id='postcolor'>

Well at least we agree that all news shows have their own political agenda. What I have never said is that I watch Fox news exclusively. It is one of many I watch. How else can I make up my own mind.

Yes, I am conservative. Not as far right as all here think. To some here any conservative is a redneck idot right wing nut. I happen to believe in certain things that form my political stance. The five subjects that your agree to being liberal on that are discussed on this forum is all I have to go on forming my opinion of you. Of course, those 5 or so subjects cover a whole lot of ground. If you say your in the middle, I won't argue with you.

As for Rush Limbaugh, he has never, never claimed to be anything but a conservative. And for Hannity and Colmes, are we talking about the same guys. I for one, have many times seen left wingers blast Hannity as much as right wingers have blasted Colmes. I can't believe you think that show is biased.

Nice chatting with you