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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Major Fubar @ Aug. 25 2002,17:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I dont get beer down other people's throats, like smokers do.<span id='postcolor'>

I never saw smokers pouring beer down other people's throats. confused.gifwow.giftounge.gif

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Major Fubar @ Aug. 24 2002,17:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The point is that you get "something" from alcohol and marijuana (altered awareness/emotional state).

All you get from tobacco is dirty shit in your lungs, elevated heartrate and generally decreased health. I mean, it's not even a decent stimilant like caffeine is...(and yes, I used to smoke, so I do know first hand).

Oh well, each to their own. But at least when I'm drinking beer I dont get beer down other people's throats, like smokers do.<span id='postcolor'>

I agree, i really hate it when i'm eating and some asshole starts smoking his li'lle cigarettes.

Great fun for him but my dinner is fucked because of his smelly stuff...

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Aug. 25 2002,16:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Major Fubar @ Aug. 25 2002,17:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I dont get beer down other people's throats, like smokers do.<span id='postcolor'>

I never saw smokers pouring beer down other people's throats. confused.gif  wow.gif  tounge.gif<span id='postcolor'>

Avon...tsk tsk...I'm sure you understood the analogy...no spam required. tounge.gif

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ Aug. 25 2002,16:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Major Fubar @ Aug. 24 2002,17:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The point is that you get "something" from alcohol and marijuana (altered awareness/emotional state).

All you get from tobacco is dirty shit in your lungs, elevated heartrate and generally decreased health. I mean, it's not even a decent stimilant like caffeine is...(and yes, I used to smoke, so I do know first hand).

Oh well, each to their own. But at least when I'm drinking beer I dont get beer down other people's throats, like smokers do.<span id='postcolor'>

I agree, i really hate it when i'm eating and some asshole starts smoking his li'lle cigarettes.

Great fun for him but my dinner is fucked because of his smelly stuff...<span id='postcolor'>

Well, that is a question of manners! I can assure you that my friends ask me if they want to smoke while I am eating.

Secondly is this "passive smoking" only a silly idea by stupid american anti-smoking fundamentalists that tried to make all people treat smokers like jews were once treated in Germany. Passive smoking. I cant stop laughing about that one. Even hair-spray is more dangerous than ordinary passive smoking. Living in a city is more dangerous for your lungs. Working in a gas-station is more dangerous. Damn hell...! I was a smoker since I was 14 and this untill the age of 23. I stopped but smokers have a damn good right to stay smokers and not to treated like lousy drug addicts. They accept rules like not smoking near children and not smoking while others eat, but also respect them. Thanks god I lived in countries where people rather listen to your words than judge you by superficial things such as smoking and stuff! mad.gif

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Strangely, smoking only ever does anything for me when im drunk. Any other time and i cannot abide it. People that smoke have a distinct stale ciggarette smell, and if i try to smoke a ciggarette when sober it just makes me feel sick. Weird, weird habbit. And as for caffeine, it does nothing for me confused.gif

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Yeah and that smell is terrible. I hate it in the morning cause wherever you went out the night before you clothes and your hair will smell of cigarettes. The last days of my smoking career were just like you told me. I didnt smoke anymore untill like 10pm and then whenever something cozy or party-like started I enjoyed my cigarettes. Also it does help digesting. In Switzerland we ate very often raclette which is melted cheese and you need to drink wine or smoke afterwards otherwise you wont sleep that night and you belly will blow up! biggrin.gif

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Albert Schweizer @ Aug. 24 2002,17:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ Aug. 25 2002,16:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Major Fubar @ Aug. 24 2002,17:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The point is that you get "something" from alcohol and marijuana (altered awareness/emotional state).

All you get from tobacco is dirty shit in your lungs, elevated heartrate and generally decreased health. I mean, it's not even a decent stimilant like caffeine is...(and yes, I used to smoke, so I do know first hand).

Oh well, each to their own. But at least when I'm drinking beer I dont get beer down other people's throats, like smokers do.<span id='postcolor'>

I agree, i really hate it when i'm eating and some asshole starts smoking his li'lle cigarettes.

Great fun for him but my dinner is fucked because of his smelly stuff...<span id='postcolor'>

Well, that is a question of manners!  I can assure you that my friends ask me if they want to smoke while I am eating.

Secondly is this "passive smoking" only a silly idea by stupid american anti-smoking fundamentalists that tried to make all people treat smokers like jews were once treated in Germany. Passive smoking. I cant stop laughing about that one. Even hair-spray is more dangerous than ordinary passive smoking. Living in a city is more dangerous for your lungs. Working in a gas-station is more dangerous. Damn hell...! I was a smoker since I was 14 and this untill the age of 23. I stopped but smokers have a damn good right to stay smokers and not to treated like lousy drug addicts. They accept rules like not smoking near children and not smoking while others eat, but also respect them. Thanks god I lived in countries where people rather listen to your words than judge you by superficial things such as smoking and stuff!  mad.gif<span id='postcolor'>

Well, i've seen enough ppl that smoke wherever they want... I don't mind it when someone smokes near me when we're outside but a lot of ppl smoke when/wherever they want to.

I don't judge anybody because they smoke, i know lots of ppl that smoke and i don't care, they're still my friends and i'm not gonna judge a stranger cuz he/she smokes.

As long as that person doesn't annoy me by smoking...

Can you proof that passive smoking isn't that dangerous? I believe that it is not healthy at all, perhaps there are some websites that can show me that i'm wrong. The way you talk about it, it looks as if you think it isn't unhealthy at all...

The thing i hate most about cigarettes is the smell and the way they can make your food taste horrible.

There's nothing as bad as someone smoking near you when you're eating or when you've just finished eating...

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Major Fubar @ Aug. 25 2002,11:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">All you get from tobacco is dirty shit in your lungs, elevated heartrate and generally decreased health.<span id='postcolor'>

Same with cannibus...

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*sigh*  You don't get the point, with canabis you get a niiiiiice feeling... and also all the bad stuff

With cigarettes you get the bad stuff, you don't get high or anything like that.

I think that's whe he wanted to say...

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Your not getting my point. By inhaling anything that contains a large amount of carbon molecules chained together, those molecules tend to stick to the alveoli whithin the lungs. As for getting high does it really matter? Is your life not going the way you want it to so you resort to numbing your surroundings? Is your life so disorganized this is the only means to escape?

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (eh remraf @ Aug. 24 2002,19:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Your not getting my point. By inhaling anything that contains a large amount of carbon molecules chained together, those molecules tend to stick to the alveoli whithin the lungs. As for getting high does it really matter? Is your life not going the way you want it to so you resort to numbing your surroundings? Is your life so disorganized this is the only means to escape?<span id='postcolor'>

Yes, but i think Major Fubar was trying to say that both smoking tobacco and canabis give you the same damage.

But he doesn't understand what's so good about smoking, you don't get a nice feeling or anything like that. WHile smoking canabis does give you a nice feeling...

Canabis also fucks up your lungs and stuff like that but at least you get something in return.

I don't smoke so there's no need to start calling me names or anything like that...

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In no way were those questions specifically directed towards you. I simply meant to the smokers on this board rather than one person. I should of made that clear in my post. As with you, I'm not a smoker as well, if you haven't guessed already.

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Hehe i believe that you're not a smoker, i didn't think you were talking to me, i just wanted everyone to know that i don't smoke.... biggrin.gif

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Rem, you have just stumbled into democommie land hehe. I suggest you turn around and start heading the other way

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I know tex, I'm sticking away from any thread purtaining to bush, and or any political movement. Why? I may start the flame war to end all flame wars.

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See, rem's a conservative, and thinks that any liberals or people from California are democommies lol

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ Aug. 25 2002,19:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">democommie land?  What's that supposed to mean?<span id='postcolor'>

A country with socialists that expire after a 30 day trial. tounge.gif

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no it means democrats+communists. Well I think since Texas rather tends to vote the Rebublicans I guess this not exactly something "posititve".

Anyway, of course does a cigarette give you a certain feeling of comfort. It contains Nikotin and therefore like coffee has a certain impact on your brain (blocks the entries of nerves into the brain). But of course since it is not as powerful as a joint you cant compare the two.

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A better example would be the far left wing. As for me, I'm in Ohio. Our democrats go to jail for cheating : )

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Would you think it okay to refer to the Forum as "republifascist"...??

Two democommies are sitting in the grass collecting welfare, when a leet posse of honorable patriotic republifascists appraoch.

Democommie 1: "Hey dude, let's hop on our bikes and get our potsmoking democommie asses out of here..the guntoting republifascists are riding in on their horses."

etc. etc.

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