will there be Java in the beta?

[seannybgoode 10]

I'm just wondering on the status of java come the beta launch. I know bi has been working very hard to get the game in-shape for release, but has java survived the cut? I will play arma 3 anyway, but as a java developer, java is a huge incentive for me to start modding for arma 3.

Anyone heard anything?

[Insanatrix 0]

AFAIK, they said that Java wouldn't be used in any of the vanilla content but they hoped to have it in for release.

[seannybgoode 10]

They said that Java wouldn't be in the Alpha, but that was the last I heard of anything. Got a link for any more recent news?

[.kju 3245]

Did you look into the community made briges like Arma2Net (done via callExtension) yet?

[seannybgoode 10]

;2415141']Did you look into the community made briges like Arma2Net (done via callExtension) yet?

This is the first I've seen of it. It seems pretty cool. How fast is it compared to using the arma JVM? I'm kinda curious as to how it's all implemented, and how everything works.

Also, do you know of any arma developers guides? The guides that I have found seem to be directed toward modders, and not anyone with any serious coding skill. Is there a guide out there that will skip all the trivial stuff and get into the meat of how exactly everything works together and what we need to do to get stuff working in-game?

I've seen a lot of guides around "This is how you place an item in the editor, this is how you attach some sqf code to it". Ideally I'd like to be able to work with the editor as little as possible and work in code as much as possible.

[.kju 3245]

Not quite sure what you are after - some of these might be of interest hopefully:

http://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Extensions

http://community.bistudio.com/wiki/callExtension

https://dev-heaven.net/issues/25915

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?156304-JavaScript-for-ARMA

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?131325-Arma2NET

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?155881-Arma-Server-Monitor-(very-small-but-useful)

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?156377-Console-extension-for-server-monitoring

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?156028-ArmA-RegEx-Extensions-regex_match-dll-and-regex_replace-dll

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?156402-callExtension-can-cripple-main-process-even-if-spawned

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?98647-JayArma2Lib

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?141217-callExtension-sqf-cstdio-bindings

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?137078-ArmA2-Extended-Dll

https://bitbucket.org/gammadust/gamextreload

For the developers guide you are best to open a new thread.

Links here may or may not be of use for that: https://dev-heaven.net/projects/cmb/wiki

Regardless of JVM or callExtension one still has to interface a lot with the SQF world (unless you are only using the external languages for generic computations or as an interface outside the game world).

[seannybgoode 10]

Well I think my next project is going to have to be to really sink my teeth into Arma 3 dev. Just praying that Java is implemented in the beta so I can code primarily in Java.

[seannybgoode 10]

I would really like to hear a statement from Bohemia on this one. I'm starting to worry if we're going to see Java in the release at all.

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Nevermind. It looks like we won't be seeing Java in the Beta.

Here's hoping we'll see it at release.

http://sealteamsloth.com/showthread.php?434-Arma-3-Beta

[brad7 4]

[Question]What would be the use of java in arma?

[seannybgoode 10]

[Question]What would be the use of java in arma?

Right now missions and modding are done via SQF script. SQF is a Bohemia in-house scripting language that has been used since OFP. Java brings Object Oriented Programming to the table, as well as type safety, performance, security and more. For me the biggest advantage is the Object Oriented paradigm, access to the huge and well documented Java libraries, as well as hundreds of tools for coding in java, eclipse support (read syntax highlighting, boilerplate generation, auto correction of errors, warnings etc.), and the list goes on.

Java is also easier to learn because so many more millions of people know Java, compared to the relatively small community of SQF coders. There's also more documentation out there for Java, where's SQF info is sortof scattered around a handful of forums and somewhat on the wiki. There are some great SQF scripting guides out there, and I admire the dedication of the community, but there's simply much more support out there for Java, by way of sheer scale.

I know that people around the Arma Community are hesitant towards change, but Java compatibility will be a boon for the mod community, and will open up so much in terms of possibilities.

[OrLoK 20]

Hello there

Will this change to Java from sqf affect us novices who like to fiddle with missions but don't have enough true knowledge to call ourselves "coders"?

Or will this be purely for advanced functions and wont affect us "grunts"?

Now, the above post points out advantages, but the terms included mean absolutely nothing to me.

What will be the benefit to us end users? Or is it purely to standardise to a industry standard language?

Rgds

LoK

[xendance 3]

Hello there

Will this change to Java from sqf affect us novices who like to fiddle with missions but don't have enough true knowledge to call ourselves "coders"?

Or will this be purely for advanced functions and wont affect us "grunts"?

Now, the above post points out advantages, but the terms included mean absolutely nothing to me.

What will be the benefit to us end users? Or is it purely to standardise to a industry standard language?

Rgds

LoK

Java is an option. SQF isn't going anywhere.

[Tonci87 163]

I ROFL everytime someone uses "JAVA" and "security" in the same sentence. :o

[gossamersolid 155]

I ROFL everytime someone uses "JAVA" and "security" in the same sentence. :o

Security is a pretty ambiguous word, it has a lot of meanings.

I'd prefer Java support over nothing, to be honest. I dislike SQF.

And yes, I'm aware of the .NET extension. I've tried it and it's good, but I'd prefer something that doesn't require any addons.

Edited June 20, 2013 by GossamerSolid