Totala 0 Posted July 5, 2002 Wheras OFP up to version 1.46 had NEVER crashed a single time on my PC, version 1.75 crashed twice in two days with a black screen and a total freeze for which I had to do a hard reset  Any new patch, or trick I should use to get rid of this real problem ? Thanx. ============================================== = WinXP Home 2002 (NTFS) = ATHLON XP1900+ = Rad/Fan Silent Viking : 42-48°C = MSI K7N420Pro bios v2.40 Driver nForce v2.29 WHQL = 3 x 256 Mo DDR PC2700 Samsung = GeForce4Ti 4400 PNY, 30 db, Driver 29.42 = Adaptec AHA 29160N bios 3.10 = Fujitsu MAM3367 36Go SCSI-LVD 15000 rpm = Modem cable Thomson TCM280 (NC) = DVD ASUS 8X max = CD ASUS 50X max = CDRW Yamaha SCSI 4/2/16 = 21' Sony GDM-5410 = Full tower Morex 300W ============================================= Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 5, 2002 Sounds like a driver problem to me. Moving to Troubleshooting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Totala 0 Posted July 5, 2002 Come on Denoir...It is NOT a driver problem !! You saw that all drivers are WHQLed and that I never had a single crash with OFP 1.46 within more than 8 months !! You just dont want other guys to see that there might be troubles on Resistance !! It is not fair I am afraid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoonieRat 0 Posted July 5, 2002 I'm getting the same!. I think if it was adriver problem OFP#1.46 would crash too!. it does'nt, only Resistance crashes!. I've tried playing without hardware acceleration for sound, with graphics settings the same as OFP, no overclocking, my ram is'nt even being all used!. I've seen 340 out of 512 used so far. I'm getting no error messages. an even number of hardlocks and CrashToDesktops... HELP!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whisperFFW06 0 Posted July 5, 2002 A stupid question, but which executable do you use to launch Resistance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted July 5, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Totala @ July 05 2002,11:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You just dont want other guys to see that there might be troubles on Resistance !!<span id='postcolor'> Troubleshooting questions go in troubleshooting, this is clearly a troubleshooting question so don't try to debate where it goes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoonieRat 0 Posted July 5, 2002 I think he's refering to blaming the problem on drivers rather than the game, not the fact you moved his post ..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted July 5, 2002 Maybe Totala what do you have your swapfile set to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow 6 Posted July 5, 2002 This is clearly a driver/system issue. OFP:R is just fine for me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted July 5, 2002 Opf:R is just fine for me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedStorm 0 Posted July 5, 2002 I don't have it yet, it's not released in all the stores in Holland yet, so I can't tell if it works for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Totala 0 Posted July 6, 2002 I am NOTa newbie in cpu and OS and I can tell you for sure it is NOT a driver issue... Only Resistance (1.75) is crashing and always the same way, with a black total freeze screen. I use the FlashPoint Resistance exe...which other should I use ?? I have been playing endless hours of Single and multiplayer on OFP with versions up to 1.46 and never got a single crash ! I don't have a single crash in any other applications including games...and you would like me to believe it is a driver issue ?? Let us be serious and HONEST for a second please Swap file is set to "default" or "auto"...However 780Mo with a U160 15000 rpm HDrive should be fine ...hopefully Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted July 7, 2002 Did you try running FlashpointPreferences.exe and selecting autodetect? Twice in two days? How consistent were the crashes? How long had you been playing before it crashed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
munger 25 Posted July 7, 2002 Argh! I have just been playing Resistance for a few hours and I've had THREE black screen freezes, one of which had a big blue square on it and occurred when I was on the gear menu arming my men ffs! This is really pissing me off now. It seems to be crashing more and more often as I get further into the campaign. Totala, I noticed that I have the same mobo as you - K7N420 Pro. Wonder if that has anything to do with it? I doubt it to be honest. I wanted to try Dominus' successful method of setting my AGP to 2X but our mobo's won't run at that voltage without risk of damage. Where is the rpt file located that gives a code description of the crash? It used to be in the OFP root menu but since installing Resistance it seems to have disappeared. Hope Suma starts posting again soon cos this is driving me nuts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominus 0 Posted July 7, 2002 Hiya All, I found that it wasn't AGP2x that was causing my BLACK screen crashes on both of my pc's (mine and bro's) but it was having an AGP aperture size of 128mb in the mobo BIOS. I changed it to 64Mb (both mobo's default settings) and haven't had a black screen (with blue bits) since, or screen freezes/lockups. Current Settings: AGP 4x, 64Mb AGP Aperture Gainward 64Mb GF4 Ti4200 cards. If you have your mobo set to 64Mb Aperture, I don't know what to suggest, other than check you BIOS settings against your mobo manual, it might be caused by using too aggressive memory timings that OFPR just can't cope with. The strange thing is that OFP and Red hammer and all other games installed worked fine with an aperture of 128Mb, the only exception being OFPR. But since changing the AGP Aperture, both systems seem more stable when running games. Munger: Is K7N420 Pro an Nvidia Crush Chipset? Just a guess. If so, the Crush chipset has a built-in Geforce 2 chip doesn't it, maybe theres a conflict there you could look into. Good luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
munger 25 Posted July 7, 2002 Dominus, I already have my AGP aperture set to 64MB as it's the best size for modern cards. I haven't heard of the Nvidia Crush chipset but mine is an Nvidia Nforce (maybe they are the same). The onboard GF2MX is automatically disabled when an AGP card is used so that can't be the problem - I don't have crashes in other games anyway. I was just thinking, I seem to have had all these black screen crashes since installing a soundmod. It's Wright's Sounds V12. I think I'll try it without them for a while. Amnyone else using a soundmod? Totala? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted July 7, 2002 I use the sound mod with zero problems, no crashes at all, but I have a Kyro2 and not a GF.... Strangely none of the friends I play Opf with have had problems with Opf:R, weird that, surely law of averages means Opf or Opf:R wouldn't work or not work well for one of them? strange Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Totala 0 Posted July 7, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ July 07 2002,02:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Did you try running FlashpointPreferences.exe and selecting autodetect? Twice in two days? How consistent were the crashes? How long had you been playing before it crashed?<span id='postcolor'> Well, I did an autodetect just to see what would happen, however I then increased the resolution to 1280*1024 ... I hope I can fully take advantage of my GF4Ti, cpu and RAM. CPU benchmark is at 5000 with resolution @ 1600x1200. By the way it did crash 3 times in 3 days, both in mutliplayer and Resistance campain, after 30 to 90 minutes of play Always the same black screen total freeze ! I did decrease AGP aperture size to 64Mo ...I will see what happen and keep u informed.... By the way I am disapointed with the Tank that still can't be stopped while going down a hill...it is a long time that the community is screaming for this to be fixed Otherwise, again Resistance is close to be a Master Piece Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Totala 0 Posted July 8, 2002 I think 64Mo AGP aperture size might not fix it, or only partially. I had another freeze ...BUT this time simply while waiting for other players to connect before starting a mutliplayer game So I guess it does not have much to do with graphic board setups and/or drivers ... amazing and incredible Anyway, after this crash, I have been playing both MP and solo games for about 3 hours without a single crash finally Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominus 0 Posted July 8, 2002 Hmmm, 'tis very strange, Totala. Both my systems haven't had a single crash since changing the aperture, it even stopped crashing on my old Geforce 256 and Geforce2Mx cards, so it doesn't seem to be related to weaker graphics cards, or more powerful cards. BTW, both machines have clean installs of OFP+Red Hammer+OFPR, I also think both systems have had System BIOS caching and Vidoe Bios caching turned off in BIOS, but this might not make a difference. They are definately both off on my system. I'll have to check my bro's. If it crashed on multiplayer could that be caused by the cable modem? or network card drivers? or other programs running in background causing conflicts with netcode ? Totala and Munger: Keep me informed if your get it sorted, I'd like to know what was causing the BLACK screen of death on your systems. Good Luck. I'm really pissed at the moment tho, my bro's weaker system is running games better than mine at the moment, ALL my games seem to suffer from slight update delays, the screen/framerate seems to pause for a second and then carry on, its getting really annoying cos I dont know what it could be. Some question for other techies: 1.Could I have dodgy RAM stick if Windows is reporting that I have 511Mb RAM, instead of 512Mb like my bro's? 2.Or is it my motherboard? Recently my unlocked/overclockable Athlon AXIA 1Ghz (should reach 1.4Ghz quite stable, has done 1.33 in the past) has started to behave erratically. A while ago my system stopped POSTing, and after much fiddling, reseating cpu etc, I found I can no longer run my CPU at 133 front side bus speed, and have to run at its default 10x100 speed. I dont know whether its the motherboard or CPU failing me. I'm wondering if the games framerate pausing is anything to do with the fact that I'm running the CPU at 100Mhz fsb (200mhz ddr for athlon), and the ram at 133Mhz fsb, whereas I would prefer to have both running at 133Mhz fsb (266 Mhz for cpu) like I used to have. Any suggestion other than new cpu and mobo, please. Thanks Good Luck with your systems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoonieRat 0 Posted July 8, 2002 Did you change out any hardware just before the POST failure?. that mobo's not very old is it?. under a year?. might be worth thinking about a RMA... Heat might be an issue causing the 133 failure. summer makes a big difference to my temps'. what HSF you got on your rig?. it might be worthwhile doing an easy~enought 'Ducting mod'. I use the top part of a plastic '2Ltr Lucasade' bottle to duct cool air straight onto my HS,(T/Right SK6). the top part is slighly funnel shaped so's it concentrates the airflow from a 92mm Panaflo mounted on the case sidepanel. quieter to with the panaflo and no HSF vibrations ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Totala 0 Posted July 9, 2002 Hi - I have played Resistance campain yesterday evening without a bug ... 64Mo AGP aperture might help indeed Still need to find ot if it works for multiplayer and find a reason why it does NOT accept 128 Mo AGP By the way, my install of OFP:R was performed on a fresh install of WinXP + OFP + Redhammer ... If you are concerned about frame rate, you can use FRASP as a good indicator. Anything under 30 fps is usually not enough for smooth gameplay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominus 0 Posted July 9, 2002 Glad to hear it has helped you a bit. I had the same BLACK screen crash when I tried multiplayer while the aperture was still 128Mb, but my brother has played a few multiplayer games sine changing it down to 64mb, without any problems. Give it a go and report back. Munger: You still getting the BLACK crash?? For OFPR to run without problems... everthing must be running perfectly methinks....... Good Luck guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoonieRat 0 Posted July 9, 2002 Setting AGP aperature to 64mb has had no affect for me. i have just tried setting my 'virtual memory' to 512mb~min and 1536mb~max. see if that help's!... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MoodyB 0 Posted July 9, 2002 What are your ram speed settings in your BIOS.I had to make them less agressive here to get Resistance stable.All fine since:) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
