Want to have a good laugh-visit americasarmy forum

[Satchel 0]

Before the upcoming partial release of AmericasArmy Operations game (now dubbed "Recon"), i was checking out the official forum to get info on technical- and download details of the game.

While browsing through the forum i almost had a redout from laughing, it appears a whole generation of 12y old disgruntled ex-counterstrike players is inhabiting the forums with their fingers typing faster than their brain is capable of processing.

A small sample of a conversation between a kid wanting gore pics (because the amount and display of splatter is an imperative for him) and a beta tester who is ready to explode:

anti_trust:

"can one of the moderators/beta testers put a pic up on here of the gore?? I wanna see what it looks like before I go judging it. I just wanna see what it looks like when you get hit and then see the blood come out, and see what it looks like around you."

Vaaish, Beta Tester:

"no we can't"

anti_trust:

"well that's kewl. I'll still get the game. I'm not gonna judge it, until i played it. But can take a screen shot of the blood?? I would like to see it. I mean people can mod the files to make it better."

Vaaish, Beta Tester:

"I guess I was not clear enough...

no Pronunciation Key (n)

adv.

Used to express refusal, denial, disbelief, emphasis, or disagreement: No, I'm not going. No, you're wrong.

Not at all; not by any degree. Often used with the comparative: no better; no more.

Not: whether or no.

we referance to the beta testers

cannot \Can"not\ [Can to be able + -not.] Am, is, or are, not able; -- written either as one word or two

post screenshots."

I guess this game is doomed before it even started, considering the average crowd that is going to play it. As the army is aiming with the game towards recruiting out of this bunch....good night america .

Go here:

http://americasarmy.com/forum/

[Major Fubar 0]

LOL...nice.

Did you have any luck about download info?

[EveronVetsAgainstTheWar 1]

It's free.

[Satchel 0]

Release time:

Pacific- 5: 01pm July 3rd

Mountain- 6: 01pm July 3rd

Central- 7: 01pm July 3rd

Eastern- 8: 01pm July 3rd

Zulu- 12: 01am July 4th

London- 12: 01am July 4th

Washington, DC July 1, 2002 || The U.S. Army launches July 4 on the Worldwide Web a special "Recon" version of "America's Army," an innovative, realistic computer game providing civilians with an inside perspective and a virtual role in today's premier land force: the U.S. Army. The "America's Army" game blends two vivid simulations: "Soldiers," a role-playing portion in which players navigate life's challenges to achieve goals, and a first-person action game, called "Operations." Players can download the 220 megabyte, "Recon" version of the "Operations" game with 10 levels at websites including: www.goarmy.com, www.americasarmy.com, www.nvidia.com, www.fileplanet.com, www.homelan.com, www.ign.com, as well as www.gigex.com and its affiliate sites such as Yahoo! Games http://games.yahoo.com, www.pcgamer.com, www.ugo.com and www.gamers.com, on Independence Day.

Starting this patriotic weekend, "America's Army" players will experience soldiering in a state-of-the-art, realistic new manner. Developed by the U.S. Army and a Department of Defense team of experts in simulations and virtual environments, "America's Army" will be distributed by the Army as a free, two-CD set late this summer. In addition, the "Operations" game will appear on CD's inside top computer games magazines. It also will be available at Army events and recruiting stations. The "Soldiers" game is rated "E" for everyone and the "Operations" game is rated "T" for teen by the Entertainment Software Ratings Board. These games are the first in a series that will provide a virtual Army experience in career fields ranging from Infantry to avionics repair.

"The launch of America's Army on the Internet marks a new chapter in the U.S. Army's history of communicating with Americans about the Army's opportunities, adventures, challenges and training," said Lt. Col. Casey Wardynski, project originator and manager of the "America's Army" game. "With this game we hope to educate young Americans and present them with a realistic, engaging view of today's modern Army and its opportunities." In the July 4 "Recon" version the virtual soldier experience begins with basic training missions that include the rifle range, obstacle course and McKenna Urban Training Site at Fort Benning, Ga. After completing basic training, players progress to online multiplayer missions ranging from defense of the Alaskan Pipeline against terrorism as a member of the 172nd Infantry Brigade (Separate) from Fort Wainwright, Alaska, to homeland defense as a member of the 10th Mountain Division (Light Infantry) from Fort Drum, N.Y. Throughout the summer the Army will make additional missions available for download, culminating with CD release of the full game at the end of the summer. The game was developed using the latest version of Epic Games' "Unreal Engine." and is optimized for NVIDIA GeForce2â„¢ graphics processors.

The game publicly debuted May 22 at the Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3), the computer and video games industry's major convention in Los Angeles, where it launched to great acclaim. Since the launch of the game's web site more than 150,000 people registered to receive the full version of the game. "America's Army" achieves unparalleled military realism through its in-house development and cooperation from 20 Army units. Embedded with expert knowledge, the game accurately depicts today's high-tech Army infantry units-military equipment, training and scenario realism. Character motions are true-to-life with motion-capture of real soldiers, allowing players to participate in a truly immersive soldier experience.

Dolby Lends Expertise to Sound Design Team for America’s Army: Operations, Combining Realism and Emotion

San Francisco, July 1, 2002—Uncle Sam wanted Dolby Laboratories when it came to sound design on the upcoming ultra-realistic America’s Army: Operations™, a first-person action game for the PC platform that allows players to enter into “virtual service†with the US Army. To fully draw the player into the game aurally and visually, the government’s development team set—and reached—a design goal of creating the most realistic audio representation of combat environments possible.

Experts from Dolby aided the team using entertainment industry techniques and high-end simulations to combine intense realism with emotion. Using both custom recorded sounds and resources from sound libraries, they spent a great deal of time getting the audio effects in the game as accurate as possible. America’s Army: Operations was conceived and sponsored by the US Army’s Office of Economic and Manpower Analysis and created in-house at the Modeling, Virtual Environments and Simulation Institute (MOVES) at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California.

“What makes America’s Army: Operations unique is the incredible amount of relevant military detail rendered throughout the game, and that each animated action requires an appropriate auditory response,†said Lieutenant Commander Russell Shilling, Ph.D., Sound Designer for America’s Army. “This realism is achieved not just through accurate recordings, but by creating an illusion for the listener that the auditory representation is accurate.â€

America's Army: Operations employs unique sounds for different materials and textures encountered in the game. For instance, footsteps, shell casings, bullet impacts, grenades, and so forth., will sound different depending on whether they land on wood, metal, concrete, water, or dirt. Bullets hitting glass and walls will shower fragments sonically and grenade explosions will cause players’ ears to ring.

“When you add these details to the immersive auditory experience offered by a Dolby Digital system, the result is compelling and extremely dramatic,†Shilling continued. “In an America’s Army: Operations firefight, it is not uncommon to hear bullets whizzing and snapping by your ears and impacting the wall behind you, which ricochet and cause a shower of debris around you—meanwhile, you’re fumbling to clear a jam in your weapon.â€

<U>A special Recon version of America’s Army: Operations can be downloaded free at www.americasarmy.com on the Fourth of July. Players can also register on the website for the free full version of the game on disc, which will be available later this summer on the Windows® PC platform. Both the disk and downloadable versions will be Dolby® Digital 5.1 certified.</U>

[FetishFool 0]

Oh my god, man.  It's the morning after Canada day and I can't read anything longer than 3 words with a total of 11 letters, two capital letters and one explaination mark.

What's the summary of all that?

[PitViper 0]

Hopefully the simulation is "hardcore" enough so that these idiots get mad and leave the game.

[InRange 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FetishFool @ July 02 2002,15:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oh my god, man.  It's the morning after Canada day and I can't read anything longer than 3 words with a total of 11 letters, two capital letters and one explaination mark.

What's the summary of all that?<span id='postcolor'>

The US Army are releasing a crap game. That's all, basically.

[Satchel 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PitViper @ July 02 2002,17:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hopefully the simulation is "hardcore" enough so that these idiots get mad and leave the game.<span id='postcolor'>

Doubt so, but we all will know for sure when its out.

Guess it will be some kind of mix between ghost recon and Flashpoint.

[ralphwiggum 6]

Amerca's army; friendly fire is common. thus even in game, watch out for FF.

anyway, i won't be using it until i know there are no trojans in it. hopefully someone will find out if there are one or not.

[EveronVetsAgainstTheWar 1]

That would be illegal.

I spent about 45 mins on the Americas Army forums today, and all I want to do right now is shoot myself in the face. And repeat, if nessicary.

What a bunch of CS playing 13 year olds. I found a total of about 2 people who share the same level of intelligence and poise as most members on this forum. It was sickening.

I found something interesting about the game, you always play as US Army. But you fight human OPFOR. How is this possible? Well you always see yourself and your team as a US Army, whereas the other team sees you as tangos. Not a bad idea, except for weapons. The team I see as using AK47s are actually firing M-16s. How will this be handled? They are entirely different guns, different caliber, different ranges, and the AK is supposed to jam less. Quit confusing.

[Tex -USMC- 0]

Well, it would be a pretty simple proposition if they are coded as the same weapon, but with different skins. That would be strike two on this game.

Also, it seems like your only enemy will be terrorists. No actual regular army opponents? Is this a simple capitalization on current attitudes, a lack of imagination on the game designers part, or a new attitude that all future US enemy's will be viewed as terrorists? And of course, the one question that is on EVERYONES mind...

Whats the gore gonna look like?!?!?!?!?!? LOL    

idiots.

[Satchel 0]

I´m also a bit sceptical about the game beeing destributed for *free* (i´m always if i hear that word), i mean c´mon it´s the new unreal Warfare engine that will have it´s debut to the public with this game.

The development costs are already told to be in the millions, with further funding planned for future development and expansion of the game for some years.

I wouldn´t be surprised to find Gator or other Spyware  implementations out of industry deals within serving information gathering purposes, to get back some of the fundings put into. As the success and resonance of a game as recruiting tool is rather questionable imho, at least for normal thinking people.

Kids going into recuiting offices based on a video game must have some kind of psychological defects living in a distorted reality, and these are exatly the people a recruiting campaign like this will attract, the majority of them unqualified even for military serviceË›, if not physically then for sure mentally.

And i´m sure the army considers this as well.

˛ prerequisites and competitions for entering basic military service aren´t usually high when compared to applying for jobs in the open buisness.  

In the forums there was someone asking if his ingame performance online would be tracked, so military officials would get a picture of his skills that might serve him when he joins.....

I don´t think anything further need to be said regarding this, it´s just sad and hillarious at the same time.... total loss of reality.

But most will just have a ball getting a game for free and take the propaganda with a grain of salt, if the game should prove worth playing.

[EveronVetsAgainstTheWar 1]

LOL I read that thread where the kid wanted to join the rangers and wondered if the army would track his record. And then they were all saying how it helps hand-eye co-ordination.

[Tex -USMC- 0]

It definitely aint gonna help them with anything else. LOL... some people are just so incredibly stupid, and this brings me back to why America needs a real war... lol

[Indychuck 0]

Satchel I'm not sure if they will have to gain back any money they spent on this project. The defense department now has virtually unlimited funding. Military advertising is everywhere now. I've even seen some sports teams sponsored by the Army now. Glad to see my tax dollars going to such a good cause More than likely though they'll just squeeze a bit more money out of us tax payers when they need it. It wouldn't surprise me if it did contain spyware though. Most likely for tracking young kids with high scores.

[ralphwiggum 6]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (residuum @ July 02 2002,17:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I found something interesting about the game, you always play as US Army.  But you fight human OPFOR.  How is this possible?  Well you always see yourself and your team as a US Army, whereas the other team sees you as tangos.  Not a bad idea, except for weapons.  The team I see as using AK47s are actually firing M-16s.  How will this be handled?  They are entirely different guns, different caliber, different ranges, and the AK is supposed to jam less.  Quit confusing.<span id='postcolor'>

duh! US ARMY! they always screw up!

[Mister Frag 0]

FWIW, I doubt that there will be any hidden spyware like Gator etc. in this game -- it will be one of the most heavily scrutinized games ever, because of who is behind it. It wouldn't take the gaming community very long to discover what is going on, and the backlash and mistrust that it would generate would defeat the PR effort that the game represents.

[EveronVetsAgainstTheWar 1]

Do you have any idea how many people still use Kazaa, even with the increased, PC taking-over spyware.

But I doublt its in the game too.

[Die Alive 0]

I'm gonna get it because I'll probably get this faster than OFPR here in North America. 200 Mb file? Man, that's gonna take a while.

-=Die Alive=-

[Tex -USMC- 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister Frag @ July 02 2002,20:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">FWIW, I doubt that there will be any hidden spyware like Gator etc. in this game -- it will be one of the most heavily scrutinized games ever, because of who is behind it. It wouldn't take the gaming community very long to discover what is going on, and the backlash and mistrust that it would generate would defeat the PR effort that the game represents.<span id='postcolor'>

You are talking about the same government that ran the Bay of Pigs operation lol

[Mister Frag 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ July 02 2002,12:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister Frag @ July 02 2002,20:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">FWIW, I doubt that there will be any hidden spyware like Gator etc. in this game -- it will be one of the most heavily scrutinized games ever, because of who is behind it. It wouldn't take the gaming community very long to discover what is going on, and the backlash and mistrust that it would generate would defeat the PR effort that the game represents.<span id='postcolor'>

You are talking about the same government that ran the Bay of Pigs operation lol<span id='postcolor'>

The Bay of Pigs operation was a CIA-funded insurgency by Cuban expatriates, whereas "America's Army" is an overt PR tool -- I'm not sure how you can compare those two.

[Jester983 0]

"flashbang, nade, flashbang, stand up and shoot the f*ck out of them for a clip, pull your secondary and run like hell"

I found that hilarious. This just proves these people play too much CS/Delta Force.  Nothing wrong with these games they are fun but not realisitic.

[Tex -USMC- 0]

It was a joke lol

[Satchel 0]

I didn´t know the army has a reputation to loose J/K........ honestly, essentially because the Department of Defense is involved in developing it i have a great deal of skepticism.

If potentially hidden code would be factual basis, and meant to transmit data beyond the plain playing requirements, it would be accordingly well designed to stay that way (hidden), they have a greater pool of knowledge and resources than a gaming- or other software company would get their hands on-especially concerning security, the CIA recruiting highly skilled hackers from the wild for industry espionage and probing of security systems is another thing.

The servers beeing run are all government funded, don´t read or hear about executables for custom dedicated servers yet, where it would be easy to track connections.

If exploiting hidden code should exist and would be discovered, i wouldn´t be surprised if it´s once again blamed on 9/11, and justified for national security reasons-

regardless how laughable that sounds, i´ve heard even more unbelievable justifications for wars to start .

In the forum officials are waving the NDA non disclosure agreement when further details about the game are beeing asked (nothing uncommon), but it also leaves the option of regular Spyware implementations everyone knows; Gator, Cydoor &Co or other companys one might find mentioned in the readme, "A product brought to you by the US Army powered by Gator cooperation" i.e..

In this case it wouldn´t be hidden but is an official "part" of the game, just as it´s the case with plenty of software that comes for *free*.

Sure US defense budgets and fundings are accumulative higher and nowhere in relation when compared to other countries, take germany with military expenditures of roughly 25 Billion US $ compared to the US´s somewhere near 300 billion $.

But then again U.S armed forces are unproportionally larger material- and personal wise than what most other countrys would be able to deploy and maintain on a constant basis, also they are practically serving in all spots around the globe, everything is taking huge amounts of expenditures to keep going; personal, maintenance, transformation, replacements, research& development fundings, armed conflicts the US is taking part or leading in, all playing into.

I don´t think they have money to throw out the window for adventures with questionable results, but hey, it´s not my money .

I´m going to download the game when the first waves of mad kids trying desperatly to download the game the second it is available (good luck ) are over, or wait for an local PC magazine having it on CD.

Before that i won´t make final conclusions regarding game quality, content, Spyware etc..

The Army claims "noone gets the Army like the Army" ultimate realism and the usual blah..well we´ll see, would be awkward if it turns out to be a CS clone, even more so than finding spyware.

[Tex -USMC- 0]

Swear I am not making this up:

"if you run you will just die tired"-Dav. My Grandpa was in WWII he was on the U-Boats heading to OMAHA his boat blew up before they reached the beach he barely drowned he had to strip all of his weapons off and gear down to BDU's and swim to the beach which wasnt very far. he said the oceans were red and so was the beach he had to scavenge dead bodys to find a weapon he ended up destroying a few MachineGun Nests with grenades he got the Medal of Honor the purple heart and a few other medals. while the band of brothers guys were a whole way from hitler he was right in that city he fought from omaha to the city Hitler was in he was agreat soldier i love his storys.He Fought from omaha to that city with a good group of soldiers. in the band of brothers you know the guys who had the highest points 200 something my grandpa had 3rd or second place in that

Signature from a forum regular on the AA forum

LOL... funny funny shit. His grandfather barely drowned when his Uboat was hit and he had to swim ashore to Omaha lol. And this is representative of the people they have in there.

Also, anyone know if theres a jump button?