PC system crash on ArmA 2/:CO - Tried everything!

[westomopresto 1]

I've been able to play ArmA 2 lately with no problems, Running it at max settings with this sytem with no problems with overheating at all.

I tried searching for other people with my problem, but I have yet to find someone with a system crash problem that doesn't have to do with temperature.

My system never goes over around 50c~ Which is normal and fine for games.

I have liquid cooling, so it's all good.

Basically I know it has nothing to do with over heating. My goal is to discover the issue by making this topic :)

Anyways, As of recently- I discovered if I play ArmA2 for around 30 minutes or so (Sometimes less) my system will freeze completely.

Usually forcing me to shut the entire system down and reboot.

Then, If I try relaunching ArmA2 after that, it runs fine up until I try loading a mission again.

Then it instantly crashes again.

I tried reinstalling ArmA2 twice now, and I still run across this same problem.

I play DayZ if you're familiar with that mod, and it also crashes on there.

I have also determined that it isn't Dayz that's causing this crash. I reinstalled the game and ran it several times (still encountering the crash) without having that mod even installed.

System Specs

Time of this report: 7/31/2012, 19:14:23
      Machine name: WESTON-PC
  Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120503-2030)
          Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
      System Model: GA-970A-D3
              BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
         Processor: AMD FX(tm)-8120 Eight-Core Processor            (8 CPUs), ~3.1GHz
            Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8174MB RAM
         Page File: 2278MB used, 14066MB available
       Windows Dir: C:\Windows
   DirectX Version: DirectX 11

Card name: AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
      Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
         Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x6739)
          DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
        Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6739&SUBSYS_23041787&REV_00
    Display Memory: 1750 MB
  Dedicated Memory: 2016 MB
     Shared Memory: 3830 MB
      Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)

ArmA2 Crash report: http://www.mediafire.com/?9lr8dmksmoj238l

[BasileyOne 10]

what motherboard you have ? does you motherboard power curcuitry was water-cooled too ?

usually combination of over-saturated[in Arma2] CPU's with overheated, because lack of usual[for air-cooled CPU -equipped system]airflow mean power circuitry and PCB/mainboard severely overheating, with degraded electrical performance and compromised reliability.

also suggest buy motherboards with 2x thicker copper layer[marketed by Gigabyte as "UltraDurable3/5", for example and similar ASUS products(with fancier, but undeveloped firmware)]for watercooled systems.

[westomopresto 1]

what motherboard you have ? does you motherboard power curcuitry was water-cooled too ?

usually combination of over-saturated[in Arma2] CPU's with overheated, because lack of usual[for air-cooled CPU -equipped system]airflow mean power circuitry and PCB/mainboard severely overheating, with degraded electrical performance and compromised reliability.

also suggest buy motherboards with 2x thicker copper layer[marketed by Gigabyte as "UltraDurable3/5", for example and similar ASUS products(with fancier, but undeveloped firmware)]for watercooled systems.

Like I said, i confirmed this NOT being a overheating problem.

I have a Gigabyte board that is "Ultra Durable 2" And it was bundled with my water cooling :)

Thanks for the response though.

[.kju 3245]

a few notes

# you dont have a crash, but a system lock up it seems

# the rpt shows no crash

# the rpt shows network corruption at times - i doubt it will lead to the system lock up

# check the windows logs

# how do you launch the game? six launcher?

# your modfolder setup for dayZ and beta patches looks weird (but might be OK)

[BasileyOne 10]

Like I said, i confirmed this NOT being a overheating problem.

I have a Gigabyte board that is "Ultra Durable 2" And it was bundled with my water cooling :)

Thanks for the response though.

ok. both motherboard chipset AND power circuitry MOSFETs/IC's are covered/freezed by water ?

otherwise, it basically its look like over-saturated CPU afftect some high-priority procesess.

do you had viruses or antiviruses ? try eleminate both temporally for testing.

Edited August 1, 2012 by BasileyOne

[westomopresto 1]

a few notes

# you dont have a crash, but a system lock up it seems

# the rpt shows no crash

# the rpt shows network corruption at times - i doubt it will lead to the system lock up

# check the windows logs

# how do you launch the game? six launcher?

# your modfolder setup for dayZ and beta patches looks weird (but might be OK)

Ill upload the windows log right now

I launch the game using Six launcher yes, but it still crashes even if I just play regular-degular armaII

I have the non-steam version of this game, it's a retail box copy. (Both ArmAII and OA)

ok. both motherboard chipset AND power circuitry MOSFETs/IC's are covered/freezed by water ?

otherwise, it basically its look like over-saturated CPU afftect some high-priority procesess.

do you had viruses or antiviruses ? try eleminate both temporally for testing.

No it's all fine and dandy. No water damage or anything :I

This is a fresh windows 7 install, I have no anti virus program yet. And i'm 100 positive this machine has no viruses on it.

I'm fairly convinced it might be the fact that I don't own a steam copy of this game.

All my friends who have the steam copy have 0 problems.

Thanks for the replies everyone, I'm trying all the suggestions. I'm gonna upload the windows log.

edit: http://www.mediafire.com/?57nyxhj1xp7ygpp

EDIT2: just had first bluescreen. New logs : http://www.mediafire.com/?80r8jc8b5jrnqmc

---------- Post added at 22:18 ---------- Previous post was at 22:14 ----------

I did some research, and found some drivers for my mobo.

The windows logs say there is a crash error on one of the mobo drivers.

Edited August 1, 2012 by westomopresto

[BasileyOne 10]

Sorry, but "fine and dandy" is irrelevant to initial question, which is "do you properly cool you motherboard power subsystem?"

For reference, because you obviously din't know what is power subsystem are picture of you motherboard http://www.gigabyte.com/fileupload/product/2/3908/4466_big.jpg

Power subsystems elements located just above you CPU socket.

Note: DON'T do FX overclocking on THIS motherboard ! it can barely feed it even without OC !

You need Ultra Durable 3 Classic [or Ultra Durable 3/Ultra Durable 5], ie with "-UD3" or "-UD5" suffixes at end of boardname, board, for this w/o compromising reliability.

BECAUSE OC'ed FX can eat up to about ~380W alone !! that can tear you board APART ! Literally !! check some Youtube videos for references/examples.

Edited August 2, 2012 by BasileyOne

[westomopresto 1]

Sorry, but "fine and dandy" is irrelevant to initial question, which is "do you properly cool you motherboard power subsystem?"

For reference, because you obviously din't know what is power subsystem are picture of you motherboard http://www.gigabyte.com/fileupload/product/2/3908/4466_big.jpg

Power subsystems elements located just above you CPU socket.

Note: DON'T do FX overclocking on THIS motherboard ! it can barely feed it even without OC !

You need Ultra Durable 3 Classic [or Ultra Durable 3/Ultra Durable 5], ie with "-UD3" or "-UD5" suffixes at end of boardname, board, for this w/o compromising reliability.

BECAUSE OC'ed FX can eat up to about ~380W alone !! that can tear you board APART ! Literally !! check some Youtube videos for references/examples.

I say "fine and dandy" because It is properly cooled.

And I'm not an idiot, and your attitude isn't appreciated.

Assuming everyone you talk to is a complete idiot is a horrid way going about life.

I am not over clocking this system in any way shape or form.

ArmA II crashes even at the lowest temp. 44~Celsius.

It has NOTHING to do with temperature. Once again, thanks for your imput. But No thanks to your elitist attitude.

---------- Post added at 01:00 ---------- Previous post was at 00:50 ----------

These crash reports are almost useless. Since they only record when a program crashes, and when a bluescreen occurs. They DO NOT however record when the system freezes.

Making this very hard to determine the root cause.

Edited August 3, 2012 by westomopresto

[BasileyOne 10]

ok then.

gl with "properly cooled" system, than hang/stuck under load.

its not about "elitists" or not, its about someone completely missing point of discussion[and related intput into possible source of troubles].

basically i've pointed such suggestion/conclusion/guess, cuz its quite usual issue for Arma2 players, upgrading their systems to watercooling.

unusually high/stressful CPU loading combined with near-absent airflow near/over mainboard result in impact EXCATLY like you depicted.

p.s.

repeat, i've talked about you essential portions of mainboard temps, NOT about CPU temp.

using IR-termometer[sold in most teashops and workshops] could let you ENSURE what temps you had in each point of mainboard.

Edited August 3, 2012 by BasileyOne

[tonygrunt 10]

EDIT2: just had first bluescreen. New logs : http://www.mediafire.com/?80r8jc8b5jrnqmc

---------- Post added at 22:18 ---------- Previous post was at 22:14 ----------

I did some research, and found some drivers for my mobo.

The windows logs say there is a crash error on one of the mobo drivers.

From your BSOD dmp it seems like your USB3 driver caused the BSOD, specifically etronxhci.sys. Could you disable USB3 from BIOS and test?

Also, what is your graphics card and how much memory does it have?

Your DevID point to an Asus HD6850 1GB VRAM but your DXDiag reports 2GB Dedicated RAM. And on the ASUS site all the 6800 series cards are 1GB.

If you don't know, search for hardware information in catalyst control center or use GPU-Z.

[dragonsyr 21]

btw.....

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[/color]These crash reports are almost useless. Since they only record when a program crashes, and when a bluescreen occurs. They DO NOT however record when the system freezes.

Making this very hard to determine the root cause.

check Dump files (*.dmp) are usually stored in c:\windows\minidump

to see the reason of bluescreens......

[Robster 11]

TROLLER LICENSE GRANTED ;)

ok, i confess this time read no sh*t... but surely I can tell what's next (and undoubtedly wise): formatting c: drive in 3.. 2... 1...

[westomopresto 1]

It seems the USB 3.0 BSOD crash was unrelated to ArmA II and my problems.

Thanks for that tip TonyGrunt! Helped one of the issues ive been having :)

I contacted the manufacture of my USB 3.0 drivers (Etron or w/e) and they said this mother board has issues with the driver. So that's well known i guess? Damn wtf gigabyte.

I disabled 3.0 and the bluescreens went away yay!

But ArmA is still doing what it's been doing.

I have 2 GPUs and they're both HD6800s [VX2450] 1gb each VRAM

Total 2g with Crossfire enabled.

Maybe it's crashing because I have them crossfired?

[tonygrunt 10]

I have 2 GPUs and they're both HD6800s [VX2450] 1gb each VRAM

Total 2g with Crossfire enabled.

Maybe it's crashing because I have them crossfired?

Try the -winxp command line parameter or disable crossfire.

[ProfTournesol 956]

Yep, crossfire is often source of troubles with this game.

[westomopresto 1]

It seems to be running again with crossfire disabled!

That's great news, I wish I figured that out sooner.

I will see how well it does, i'll give it a couple of days before the final verdict.