increased terrain ?

[shephart 1]

so, after we saw the huge map in arma 3 (limnos in ORIGINAL !!! size) do you think that we get an increased terrain size to use when we want to make a map ?

[Maio 293]

The playable map is a downsized version of Limnos.

[dmarkwick 261]

so, after we saw the huge map in arma 3 (limnos in ORIGINAL !!! size) do you think that we get an increased terrain size to use when we want to make a map ?

We can already make maps pretty much any size already, the limits are grid size resolution (larger maps = larger grid, smaller maps = smaller more detailed grid) and man hours to populate them with objects :)

[shephart 1]

The playable map is a downsized version of Limnos.

the real limnos is 477,27 km², if i remember correctly, the arma 3 limnos was something with 400km2 too...

We can already make maps pretty much any size already, the limits are grid size resolution (larger maps = larger grid, smaller maps = smaller more detailed grid) and man hours to populate them with objects :)

really ? any size we want ? i made already a thread in arma 2 editing and asked the question what the maximum terrain size is in arma, here :

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?132699-max-terrain-size-in-arma-2

quote from bushlurker : "2048x2048x50m would be object problem-free so is perhaps a safer bet - that would produce a 102.4km x 102.4km terrain..."

so the max terrain size is 102.4km x 102.4km

[ProfTournesol 956]

Limnos, spreading over an area of almost 300 square kilometers

So it's downsized, isn't it ?

[shephart 1]

So it's downsized, isn't it ?

yes it is :mad:

[PuFu 4600]

in theory is 4096x4096x50m

= 204.8x204.8

still, why would you need any bigger than 100x100km (10 000 km^2), which is already like 25 times bigger than limnos is goong to be?

[Derbysieger 11]

So it's downsized, isn't it ?

I thought the landmass was something about +-400km² with the whole map being 900km²

€: quote's from arma 3.com so I assume you're right.

[ProfTournesol 956]

http://www.arma3.com/arma-3-overview/limnos/

[dmarkwick 261]

really ? any size we want ? i made already a thread in arma 2 editing and asked the question what the maximum terrain size is in arma, here :

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?132699-max-terrain-size-in-arma-2

quote from bushlurker : "2048x2048x50m would be object problem-free so is perhaps a safer bet - that would produce a 102.4km x 102.4km terrain..."

so the max terrain size is 102.4km x 102.4km

You haven't quoted the entire text:

Maximum heightmap size Visitor will accept is 4096 x 4096... however, it seems there's issues with object placement and manipulation on 4096 sized grids...

2048x2048 is the next size down, and that size seems relatively hassle-free....

With "cell size" it's more of a practical limitation.... anything above 50m per cell is gonna look pretty crude in-game... Even 50m will look a little clumsy if you have a lot of hills, etc...

So, for example....

Theoretically at least, you could have a 4096x4096x50m cell - assuming no object difficulties, that would give you a terrain of 204.8km x 2048km

2048x2048x50m would be object problem-free so is perhaps a safer bet - that would produce a 102.4km x 102.4km terrain...

With a 50m cell size it's gonna look a little crude though - like a large Operation Flashpoint map basically.... 10m would be a more usual cell size, which would produce a 2048x2048x10m = 20km x 20km terrain... that's bigger than Takistan, or Chernarus, and would take a long time to complete to any significant level of detail.....

So you can make the cell size larger and trade detail for size, as I said. I suppose you could have a cell size of 1000m and that would give you a terrain in the region of 4,096 km per side. However that's an unworkable size for anything other than a flight sim :)

[Robster 11]

No matter the terrain's grid size, until now we can't use 4096x4096 px heightfields, since V3PE does not let you to place objects all over the place... it's a bug that hasn't been addressed yet... will ArmA 3 fix that ? let's hope so!

Regards!

[Defunkt 431]

I really want to know if this new iteration of the engine is going to add some sort of improved 'LOD' system for terrain (i.e. like Tesselation) so we can have large maps with detailed 'micro-terrain'?

[PuFu 4600]

afaik, there won't be any sort of tessellation, for the terrain or any other model present in the game for that matter...