createvehicle using munitions types - explode vs. spawn

[zodd 14]

Gday all,

I am looking at using createvehicle for some basic scripting within triggers. Initially was looking at a trip flare and IED (IED is easy using triggers and createvehicle - eg

iedboom = "Bo_GBU12_LGB" createVehicle (getPos ied1pos);

trip flare I found here - http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=81693&highlight=trip+flare )

After an hour or so experimenting, one thing i have found is there is no way (that I can tell) that you can differentiate between a piece of ordinance that will just spawn and one that will explode... ie. "grenade" explodes but "handgrenade" just spawns a grenade? (off memory - its late and i cant find the list i had!)

Does anyone know a link to a list of munitions that will function vs those that will spawn? (eg. for flares, smoke etc. as well?)

Much appreciated!

[zodd 14]

Whilst I have not found exactly what I am looking for (Spawning a bit of ordinance vs exploding one)

http://www.ofpec.com/COMREF/index.php?action=read&id=210

and

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=246

(Quite good!)

Both have the list of all ordinance. Using ammo classname, it seems as though anything explosive will detonate, nil effect for anything else

[Tankbuster 1747]

(IED is easy using triggers and createvehicle - eg

iedboom = "Bo_GBU12_LGB" createVehicle (getPos ied1pos);

I know this isn't what you asked, but you might find it useful anyway...

You can create an LGB to make an explosion, but the problem is that you will see the bomb spawn in the air, fall to the ground and then explode. As you've already found, grenades handle slightly differently as they have a fuse time.

I got around this by creating a custom addon, as detailed here. I modified a handgrenade so that it goes off immediately and made two different types, one approx twice the power of a grenade and another about 4/5 the power of an LGB.

I'll be updating that addon soon, by the way, to include a third type of explosion and also, an inert IED object that looks the same as the BAF one.

[Muzzleflash 111]

Explosive ammos explode. Explosive magazines do not. The grenade which does not explode is a magazine you can pick up and have in your inventory. When you throw it ingame, the magazine is removed, and a grenade "ammo" is thrown. The ammo explodes the magazines do not.

I'm pretty sure that's how it works.

Magazines: http://browser.dev-heaven.net/cfg_magazines/classlist

Ammo: http://browser.dev-heaven.net/cfg_ammo/classlist

In the magazines listing there is a column showing the ammo the magazine uses.

[Tankbuster 1747]

And my addon removes the fuse time too, so that it explodes the moment it's created. Actually, that's not quite true - it goes off the moment it hits the ground, but unlike the LGB, it can be created at ground level so that (a) it isn't seen falling to earth and (b) it goes off immediately.

[das attorney 858]

You could create the bomb underground, so you won't be able to see it spawn and there isn't a delay between triggering and firing.

Example (just tested this in the editor):

Put down a marker called target1 somewhere and paste this into a trigger

iedboom = "Bo_GBU12_LGB" createVehicle ([getMarkerPos "target1" select 0, getMarkerPos "target1" select 1, -5])

;

[Tankbuster 1747]

That's cool. The ground doesn't attenuate the explosion at all?

[das attorney 858]

Good question. Do you mean that because it's underground, the force of the explosion felt by surface dwellers will drop?

If so, then I'm not sure.

(I had to look up the word attenuate) :D

[Muzzleflash 111]

You could also spawn it in the air and send it straight down with huge velocity.

[Tankbuster 1747]

Good question. Do you mean that because it's underground, the force of the explosion felt by surface dwellers will drop?

Yes. That should be tested, then.

In my IED script/addon, I found that some objects attenuate he explosion. For example, if I spawn an LGB inside the rubbish pile object, there's a fair chance a player standing right next to it will survive.

[f2k sel 164]

Bombs are hit and miss at the best of times, it's a good idea to spawn a trigger and set the damage to 1 to all items in the immediate area.

[zodd 14]

hit and miss is good though - simulates the unpredictability of real war! (haha unless you NEED something to die i spose!)

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Also - getting back to initial point - is there any way to spawn a bomb without it exploding? (ie. lying on the ground)

[Tankbuster 1747]

Hmm. Possibly. Will enableSimulation false do it?

There is a bomb model which won't explode, it's just an object.

[das attorney 858]

There's a really good link here that shows you how to do it :)

http://forums.bistudio.com/showpost.php?p=1607472&postcount=9