Desert1 1 Posted October 28, 2012 Can I ask what makes an SSD so much better than a HDD? Thanks in advance :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted October 28, 2012 Can I ask what makes an SSD so much better than a HDD? Thanks in advance :) Lower latency and faster data transfer, among other things. See here. Very good for Arma because of its heavy use of data streaming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Covert_Death 11 Posted October 29, 2012 as far as ArmA is concerned SSD's are a lot better because a lot of the information is kept on the Storage drive and NOT moved to the RAM, things like textures have to load from storage and an SSD is just blazing fast compared to a HDD... if you have arma2 and are running on a HDD, then go into a forest and spin around quickly, it will lag like nobodies ever seen but if you have an SSD it is drastically better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarlGustaffa 4 Posted October 29, 2012 I got myself a new gaming rig, and I'm considering using the old system drive (10000 RPM Raptor) as a games disk, rather than spending my SSD (to prevent it being filled up too fast). Any experience using such drives for games, compared to regular 7200RPM drives? Can I expect that much of a difference? How much worse are they compared to SSD? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bee8190 10 Posted October 29, 2012 Thanks for the answer :)one more thing, is there any difference between SSD memory cards? If so what do you prefer? (sorry i don't really know much about PC's :p) If by memory cards you mean PCI-SSD's cards, than these have close to double the speed of the ''harddrive'' SSD's. They obviously come at close to double the price too, though. As mentioned, SSD are up to 20 times faster than mechanical HDD, which helps to draw the scene on users display faster, basically minimizing \ eliminating the lod switching. SSD became HW wise as important piece of HW as fast CPU and-or GFX card. I got myself a new gaming rig, and I'm considering using the old system drive (10000 RPM Raptor) as a games disk, rather than spending my SSD (to prevent it being filled up too fast). Any experience using such drives for games, compared to regular 7200RPM drives? Can I expect that much of a difference? How much worse are they compared to SSD? Depend on what 10k drive it is and more so what SATA interface it is but even if it's latest raptor 10k drive with SATA3, it cannot compare to SSD speeds, at all, really. Running one myself for general files and back-up's. (No, I haven't noticed any visible, significant improvement over my other caviar black drive as far as I remember.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerbianWizard 1 Posted November 7, 2012 Hello all! I was wondering; have there been any rumors or facts stating that ARMA III will be better optimized for PC? ARMA II was poorly optimized, and I hope that this same obstacle won't hinder ARMA III. Thanks in advance! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Covert_Death 11 Posted November 7, 2012 yes everything we have heard so far has been statements such as "if you can run arma2 you can run arma3 because of the optimization improvements" this leads me to believe although visually improved, the tax on hardware should be SIMILAR to arma2 due to optimizaitons... BUT since its not even public alpha yet i haven't the slightest clue what reality is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeMeSiS 11 Posted November 7, 2012 I think you people are confusing 'can run' with 'can run decently'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ada0015 1 Posted November 9, 2012 what computer would run this the best ya reckon?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ekko 1 Posted November 9, 2012 what computer would run this the best ya reckon?? Ah... nothing to expensive or special... just an ASUS GEFORCE GTX 680 DIRECTCU II TOP 2GB, and an INTEL CORE I7 3970X 3.50GHZ 15MB S-2011, and also 16 GB RAM. :cool: Oh, you might also need an ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS C602 S-2011 2X XEON E5-2600-SERIES EEB and a chassis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogueRebel 1 Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) How will this run Arma 3 ? i7 3770k 16 GBS of corsair vengeance ram 1 MSI GeForce GTX 670 OC Twin Frozr Power Edition ? And if I SLI later on, how much of a performance boost will I see ? (btw this is a new pc , haven't tryed it with arma 2 yet , how will it run that ?) Here's hoping that it can max out both Arma 2 and 3... atleast if I go sli.. My goal is to max out both Arma 2 and 3, I can still send back the first of my 670s if I have to and get a 680, but I really don't want to if I don't have to. Edited November 11, 2012 by RogueRebel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CASmith 1 Posted November 11, 2012 Hi guys, this is actually my first post! I've had my eye on so many PC games which I've never been able to play because I've never had a good enough PC, so this Christmas I'm gonna' be getting a gaming PC! If I'm being honest, I really don't know too much about computers and specs and all of those things which is why I'm here to ask for your guys advice! I am quite budgeted, at around £700 at a push, many people have said that I should build my own PC instead of buying a brand new one. I want a PC that will be able to run ARMA 2 very well aswell as ARMA 3 when that eventually releases. I looked at a YouTube video and here are the specs I was given: * Case: Corsair 300 R (£59.16) * Processer: Intel i5 Ivy Bridge 3570K (£176.60) * Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-v LX (£89.72) * Memory: Corsair 2x 4gb DDR3 Vengeance (£29.99) * Storage: Samsung 830 128gb (£83.90) * Graphics card: EVGA 560 Ti IGB SC (£163.87) * Optical drive: Pioneer DVD rw 219 LBK (£15.88) * Power supply: Corsair 650w Enthusiast Series (£77.58) Like I said, I really don't know if these specs will be able to run them both or not. I don't expect to be able to run ARMA 2, DAYZ and ARMA 3 on max settings I'm not a mad man haha! But I just really need to know what you guys think and make any changes you think are necessary :) Thank you so much guys! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 11, 2012 @ RogueRebel Arma 2 related questions do belong in the Arma 2 forum section, not here. Do not mix topics and do not crosspost! Also, the game is not even released, how did you imagine people be able to tell you how Arma 3 will run? :confused: [add on] And not mixing Arma 2 questions in Arma 3 discussion topics go for CASmith as well! This thread is about the ArmA 3 System Requirements, if you want to know about Arma 2 post in the correct forum! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onlyrazor 11 Posted November 11, 2012 Invest some dosh towards SSDs. Arma isn't graphics intensive as much as it is memory intensive. I haven't had the chance to use one yet, but apparently it cuts down the stuttering when entering cities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CASmith 1 Posted November 11, 2012 @ RogueRebelArma 2 related questions do belong in the Arma 2 forum section, not here. Do not mix topics and do not crosspost! Also, the game is not even released, how did you imagine people be able to tell you how Arma 3 will run? :confused: [add on] And not mixing Arma 2 questions in Arma 3 discussion topics go for CASmith as well! This thread is about the ArmA 3 System Requirements, if you want to know about Arma 2 post in the correct forum! Woahhhhhh, this is my first post I've not worked through threads and things like that I just wanted some help because I'm absolutely clueless I didn't realize it would cause such an uproar me asking.. I asked about what I would need to run ARMA aswell as ARMA 3 that surely fits in this thread of 'ARMA 3 system requirements'? My god man I asked for some HELP, I know the game isn't released yet I just know there are some people who are absolutely brilliant on PC's and would have been able to atleast point me in the right direction. If I posted in an ARMA 2 forum about possible specs for ARMA 3 I would get the exact same reply as I am now. All I need is some advice, I don't want to spend £700 on a PC and it can't run or do the things I need it to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 11, 2012 First post or not, do not mix things. There are specific threads to use when you want to upgrade your PC for Arma 2. This thread is about Arma 3, not any other version. You use this thread for any Arma 3 related feedback only. All replies you get will be not worth much since nobody here has the game so nobody knows how things will work, all posts here are based soley on the posts made by the dev's stating which components they use during testing and development and what they expect will be good enough hardware specs to be able to run the game. Not based on user experience at all. For Arma 2 people can give you conclusive feedback when you use the correct forum thread (there is a nice sticky for that which you can use). Additionally, if you have someting to comment about the forum moderation let me point out this rule which you seem to have missed during signup: §18) No public discussion on how the forum is moderatedIf you have questions/complaints/comments about the forum or moderators please PM them to a moderator, we will do our utmost to reply to any that we receive. If you have an issue that you feel cannot be solved by another moderator then please PM the head moderator (Placebo), he will be happy to look into the matter. You may also ask your questions in the "Ask a mod" thread; however that thread is not to be used to attack/rant against specific moderators or about specific rules but more for questions/answers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogueRebel 1 Posted November 11, 2012 And which components did the Devs use for Arma 3 during the demos ? ---------- Post added at 13:02 ---------- Previous post was at 12:56 ---------- Hi guys, this is actually my first post!I've had my eye on so many PC games which I've never been able to play because I've never had a good enough PC, so this Christmas I'm gonna' be getting a gaming PC! If I'm being honest, I really don't know too much about computers and specs and all of those things which is why I'm here to ask for your guys advice! I am quite budgeted, at around £700 at a push, many people have said that I should build my own PC instead of buying a brand new one. I want a PC that will be able to run ARMA 2 very well aswell as ARMA 3 when that eventually releases. I looked at a YouTube video and here are the specs I was given: * Case: Corsair 300 R (£59.16) * Processer: Intel i5 Ivy Bridge 3570K (£176.60) * Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-v LX (£89.72) * Memory: Corsair 2x 4gb DDR3 Vengeance (£29.99) * Storage: Samsung 830 128gb (£83.90) * Graphics card: EVGA 560 Ti IGB SC (£163.87) * Optical drive: Pioneer DVD rw 219 LBK (£15.88) * Power supply: Corsair 650w Enthusiast Series (£77.58) Like I said, I really don't know if these specs will be able to run them both or not. I don't expect to be able to run ARMA 2, DAYZ and ARMA 3 on max settings I'm not a mad man haha! But I just really need to know what you guys think and make any changes you think are necessary :) Thank you so much guys! I'm a bit clueless myself , but I'd say a 680 , atleast 8GBs of ram and the best i5 - i7 you can get. I am starting to regret my 670 purchase and may send it back for a 680. and go sli. Then again I want to run the game maxed out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CASmith 1 Posted November 11, 2012 First post or not, do not mix things.There are specific threads to use when you want to upgrade your PC for Arma 2. This thread is about Arma 3, not any other version. You use this thread for any Arma 3 related feedback only. All replies you get will be not worth much since nobody here has the game so nobody knows how things will work, all posts here are based soley on the posts made by the dev's stating which components they use during testing and development and what they expect will be good enough hardware specs to be able to run the game. Not based on user experience at all. For Arma 2 people can give you conclusive feedback when you use the correct forum thread (there is a nice sticky for that which you can use). Additionally, if you have someting to comment about the forum moderation let me point out this rule which you seem to have missed during signup: I haven't commented on how the forum is moderated, I just said it's my first post so I'm still trying to work my way around the forum. I didn't do it to purposely miff you or anyone else off it was a mistake. The replies will be worth something to me because I have very minimal knowledge on computer specifications so anything will help. I want to build a gaming computer towards Arma 3, I never expected anyone to be able to tell me "This is what you need", just some advice off of someone who knows what they're talking about. Like I said, I was just hoping some people could point me in the right direction because at the moment, I'm clueless. I'll be more careful next time about what topics I bring up in particular threads, but Arma 3 system requirements is what I'm enquiring about so I see no problem with what I've posted. I'll just keep to Arma 3 system requirements talk, no problemoo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CASmith 1 Posted November 11, 2012 And which components did the Devs use for Arma 3 during the demos ?---------- Post added at 13:02 ---------- Previous post was at 12:56 ---------- I'm a bit clueless myself , but I'd say a 680 , atleast 8GBs of ram and the best i5 - i7 you can get. I am starting to regret my 670 purchase and may send it back for a 680. and go sli. Then again I want to run the game maxed out. When you say a 680, do you mean changing the 'Corsair 650w Enthusiast Series' to a 'Corsair 680w Enthusiast Series'? Also, with the 8gbs of ram, do I not already have that with the 'Corsair 2x 4gb DDR3 Vengeance'? Thanks for the reply anyway man, I'm slowly getting there in terms of my pc haha! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogueRebel 1 Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) When you say a 680, do you mean changing the 'Corsair 650w Enthusiast Series' to a 'Corsair 680w Enthusiast Series'? Also, with the 8gbs of ram, do I not already have that with the 'Corsair 2x 4gb DDR3 Vengeance'? Thanks for the reply anyway man, I'm slowly getting there in terms of my pc haha! I mean a Nvidia 680 graphics card. I said noting about a psu. I will have a go at specing you a PC, I know of some good quality brands of PC parts. You can double check what I spec you if you want. Whats your budget mate ? Edit: from the parts you mentioned around £500 - £600 I take it ? Edited November 11, 2012 by RogueRebel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CASmith 1 Posted November 11, 2012 I mean a Nvidia 680 graphics card.I said noting about a psu. I will have a go at specing you a PC, I know of some good quality brands of PC parts. You can double check what I spec you if you want. Whats your budget mate ? Edit: from the parts you mentioned around £500 - £600 I take it ? Thanks so much pal I would really, massively appreciate that! My budget is £700 max, ideally I could do with less just because I'm pushed with money but £700 should be fine still hopefully! Thanks again bud this is a huge help! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogueRebel 1 Posted November 11, 2012 Do you need a keyboard ,mouse , speakers a monitor or anything like that ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CASmith 1 Posted November 11, 2012 Do you need a keyboard ,mouse , speakers a monitor or anything like that ? Oh god I forgot about them! Yeah I'll definitely need all of those parts! If you want, you don't have to include those parts in the budget because I can just pick up some cheap ones from somewhere, I would rather have the money spent on how the computer actually performs if that makes sense :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogueRebel 1 Posted November 11, 2012 I understand completely. :) ---------- Post added at 14:39 ---------- Previous post was at 14:15 ---------- Okay I have 2 build specs for you, I will send you a message with them not to be clogging up this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CASmith 1 Posted November 11, 2012 I understand completely. :)---------- Post added at 14:39 ---------- Previous post was at 14:15 ---------- Okay I have 2 build specs for you, I will send you a message with them not to be clogging up this thread. Okay mate thank you so much! I'll get back to you via message then! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites