DZR_Mikhail 15 Posted June 7, 2011 (edited) Artillery range tables for manual targeting! All tables are taken from ACE. Russian and English versions. Printer friendly ;) Range table for (ACE) M119 howitzer" Range table for М252 mortar Range table for D-30 122-mm howitzer Range table for M224 mortar Range table for 2Б14 "Podnos" mortar Range table for M119 howitzer An example of manual m119 shooting (thanks Mahuja!) YV4u4FCYQyM For non ACE legacy arty you can just activate "T-E" mode on mousewheel options ingame and see the elevation and azimuth onscreen. Arty is fun at last! P.s. These tables can be taken as items ingame from ACE arty boxes and accessed by ACE interaction menu anytime. Edited June 7, 2011 by zvukoper typo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZR_Mikhail 15 Posted June 14, 2011 Added mil to metre sideways conversion column E.g. Your mortar 2B14 hit 20m to the left from taget at range 1600 at direction 4560 mils. So you lookup sideways mils at range 1600, it has 1mil = 1.57m. Then you divide your 20m by 1.57m and get mils number to turn to the right = 13mils. New adjusted direction will be 4560 + 13 = 4573 mils Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kremator 1065 Posted June 14, 2011 Useful for those using ACE, although this probably needs appended to the ACE thread (on in Complete) Thank God I don't use ACE that often, as I'd never get a shell off ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noubernou 77 Posted June 14, 2011 Heh, for the M119 at least (and any new western pieces added) there is the BCS. :p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZR_Mikhail 15 Posted June 17, 2011 Thank God I don't use ACE that often, as I'd never get a shell off ! ACE is not preventing to use any computers or even BIS arty. These tables for hardcore artillerists who don't use computers to calculate fire solution, for manual firing. And it's kind of dificult to shoot the brand new (amazing) ACE M119 howitzer. But I tell you, legacy (vanilla) arty is far more easier and soon Mahuja and I are going to make a comprehensive arty tutorials. Heh, for the M119 at least (and any new western pieces added) there is the BCS. :p And imagine it's destroyed? That's why a good arty gunner must have a pack of those tables printed somewhere nearby ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noubernou 77 Posted June 17, 2011 ACE is not preventing to use any computers or even BIS arty.These tables for hardcore artillerists who don't use computers to calculate fire solution, for manual firing. And it's kind of dificult to shoot the brand new (amazing) ACE M119 howitzer. But I tell you, legacy (vanilla) arty is far more easier and soon Mahuja and I are going to make a comprehensive arty tutorials. And imagine it's destroyed? That's why a good arty gunner must have a pack of those tables printed somewhere nearby ;) Yah, just saying for people that think its overly complicated they probably dont realize there is a computer. :p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maturin 12 Posted January 15, 2012 I think the D30 range table is wrong. It tells me I need Far for 5000m, while the artillery computer gives me a Close solution for that range, with similar barrel elevation. And could we get the Grad? Pretty please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZR_Mikhail 15 Posted January 16, 2012 maturin, can you look at the ACE range table values for D30 at this distance please? I've taken the values right from ACE. If it's wrong in ACE, it will be wrong here. I'm not sure Grad is already in ACE rangetables. I'll check. If it is - I'll add it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maturin 12 Posted January 16, 2012 maturin, can you look at the ACE range table values for D30 at this distance please? I've taken the values right from ACE. If it's wrong in ACE, it will be wrong here.I'm not sure Grad is already in ACE rangetables. I'll check. If it is - I'll add it. Oh, are these tables in the game itself somewhere? Tell me where and I will re-check. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZR_Mikhail 15 Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) Oh, are these tables in the game itself somewhere? Tell me where and I will re-check. Yeah, they are. My online variant is just to save some time for preparations or if you forgot to take tables with you ingame. Tables are ingame objects. They are found in a box ACE artillery I think. You equip a table (put in the inventory). Then you can acces it on self-interaction ACE menu (which is user-menu key near right CTRL) and voila, you can look at it. You can use these classes to equip them manually in the editor. http://browser.dev-heaven.net/cfg_weapons/show/1509581 http://browser.dev-heaven.net/cfg_weapons/show/1509583 http://browser.dev-heaven.net/cfg_weapons/show/1509578 http://browser.dev-heaven.net/cfg_weapons/show/1509582 http://browser.dev-heaven.net/cfg_weapons/show/1509579 http://browser.dev-heaven.net/cfg_weapons/show/1509580 You can vote up the Grad rangetables and quicken the progress here - https://dev-heaven.net/issues/20305 Edited January 17, 2012 by zvukoper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maturin 12 Posted January 17, 2012 Yeah, my mistake, the D30 tables are correct. There is huge difference between the ranges shown in the tables and the ranges possible with the artillery computer, however. I recommend everyone use the M119 instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZR_Mikhail 15 Posted January 17, 2012 If you could bring up more examples of the differences and explain how it affects the precision - I would gather it up and ticket this issue to ACE team and we'll probably have it all perfected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mahuja 12 Posted February 17, 2012 I just looked at the D-30 tables (on the website), and I found a couple weird things. And I just found why: It's a duplicate of the M252 tables. (It was a pretty big hint that the D-30, similar to the M119, had a max range of some 5km, similar to the M252.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZR_Mikhail 15 Posted February 29, 2012 Sorry guyz. For some reason I copypasted m252 data inside d30. Now it's correct. Thanks Mahuja for this observation. :rolleyes: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSnt 1 Posted September 9, 2012 A shame this is now out of date. Don't know when it changed to charges, but at least m224, m252 and m119 are all wrong now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZR_Mikhail 15 Posted September 10, 2012 Thank you. We will check it and update if possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoupVrt 14 Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) Nice job zvukoper! Added mil to metre sideways conversion columnE.g. Your mortar 2B14 hit 20m to the left from taget at range 1600 at direction 4560 mils. So you lookup sideways mils at range 1600, it has 1mil = 1.57m. Then you divide your 20m by 1.57m and get mils number to turn to the right = 13mils. New adjusted direction will be 4560 + 13 = 4573 mils I would assume that you do but better to be sure, so you are using NATO standard mils here (ie. 6400), right? Edited November 29, 2012 by Kawa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ffs 10 Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) Didn't want to create a new thread, so I'll just put it here: Range tables for mortars and howitzers [ACE1.14RC1B586] (via Google Docs) ("File"->"Download as") (Also: "1 mil sideways (m)" basic trig formula: D*(Pi*2)/6400, where D= range in meters, Pi=3.14159, 6400 - NATO standard mils) Edited December 21, 2012 by ffs formula Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charli 1 Posted July 6, 2013 Hello, I play on TLR servers alot and they disabled the mortar tube ranges for the podnos 2b14 and I was wandering if you got a tutorial on how to use that. I know the ranges are from anywhere from 85m to 3km so I want to be able to shoot at the most effective range possible, 3km or 2km without being spotted and shot by the cops lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maturin 12 Posted April 8, 2014 The links to the M119 range table are dead! We can't use manual arty anymore without the physical items. Does anyone have stored copies? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZR_Mikhail 15 Posted April 8, 2014 Unfortunately the website changed hosting a while ago and those pages were lost during file moving. Because we ceased playing ACE we haven't checked the files. Sorry guys :( I'll try to check anther possible backup on other computers, but seems this thing is lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites