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Who has the worst army/forces in the world?

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I think Italy wins it imho. In ww2 they invaded Ethiopia and they still lost :S

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lol.. define "worst"

is worst as in mean? cruel?

or is worst as in just plane sucks at doing what its supposed to do.. beat the enemy?

or worst as in smallest??

I dunno.. to me it seems all armies have their strong and weak points.. thats not to say they are all equal by any means but no army is 100% flawless..

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i don't know...on another thread, i read about USMC getting lost in Norweigian forests, so USMC?

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Oh, I could turn this into such a flame war...  tounge.gif

Of course my gut reaction was Canada, what with their 'moose-mounted cavalry'.... lol, JUST KIDDING (please dont cut off our bacon supply)  wink.gif

Yes, it does depend on the criteria you use, and after all, the litmus test for a fighting force is a war, and many countries havent done that for a while. Remember this though: the efficiency of a fighting force is inversely proportional to the complexity of their dress uniforms.

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wow.gif0--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ChickenHawk @ April 04 2002,02wow.gif0)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think Italy wins it imho. In ww2 they invaded Ethiopia and they still lost :S<span id='postcolor'>

Heard about the Italian kamikaze pilot? He flew 12 missions.

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Wost as getting their ass kicked by anyone and everyone and never winning a war etc.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Heard about the Italian kamikaze pilot? He flew 12 missions.

j/k

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lol, good joke smile.gifbiggrin.gif

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (§nake @ April 04 2002,02:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">doy...  Taliban?

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LOL...i'd say they were at least good at one thing.

retreating from Kabul in short time! biggrin.gif

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ April 04 2002,02:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oh, I could turn this into such a flame war...  tounge.gif

Of course my gut reaction was Canada, what with their 'moose-mounted cavalry'.... lol, JUST KIDDING (please dont cut off our bacon supply)  wink.gif

Yes, it does depend on the criteria you use, and after all, the litmus test for a fighting force is a war, and many countries havent done that for a while. Remember this though: the efficiency of a fighting force is inversely proportional to the complexity of their dress uniforms.<span id='postcolor'>

God you Americans make me insane!

It seems like the best thing any of you have to do most of the time whenever Canada comes up is to bash our forces.

While it's true that we spend less money on our military than the US (And I deplore the government of my nation for it's stupidity) our forces are very well trained and efficient.

In fact, if you look at the first US Special Forces back in WWII, the cream of the crop was provided by the Canadians in the form of men from the PPCLI.  (No, I didnt get that from The Devils Brigade, I got it from a guy who served in the PPCLI and was well versed in their history)

While I agree that the condition of our armed forces is more than a little on the deplorable side, on average our troops are as well trained and equiped as anyone.  In most cases, likely better.  After all, JTF2 snipers are wandering around Afghanistan because they are among the best in the world.

I'll stop ranting now wink.gif

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Warin @ April 04 2002,02:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ April 04 2002,02:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oh, I could turn this into such a flame war...  tounge.gif

Of course my gut reaction was Canada, what with their 'moose-mounted cavalry'.... lol, JUST KIDDING (please dont cut off our bacon supply)  wink.gif

Yes, it does depend on the criteria you use, and after all, the litmus test for a fighting force is a war, and many countries havent done that for a while. Remember this though: the efficiency of a fighting force is inversely proportional to the complexity of their dress uniforms.<span id='postcolor'>

God you Americans make me insane!

It seems like the best thing any of you have to do most of the time whenever Canada comes up is to bash our forces.

While it's true that we spend less money on our military than the US (And I deplore the government of my nation for it's stupidity) our forces are very well trained and efficient.

In fact, if you look at the first US Special Forces back in WWII, the cream of the crop was provided by the Canadians in the form of men from the PPCLI.  (No, I didnt get that from The Devils Brigade, I got it from a guy who served in the PPCLI and was well versed in their history)

While I agree that the condition of our armed forces is more than a little on the deplorable side, on average our troops are as well trained and equiped as anyone.  In most cases, likely better.  After all, JTF2 snipers are wandering around Afghanistan because they are among the best in the world.

I'll stop ranting now wink.gif<span id='postcolor'>

I'm an american.. I don't hate the Canadian forces.. although the South Park movie was pretty damned good... I have no tension between any of the american allies, I will not dis the SAS for their brilliance in modern tactics... the GSG-9, having them big solid ba- hands in which makes them one of the strongest foces in the world... the GIGN, some very excellent stratigists there.. although we never hear much about them. As for the Seals, Force Recon Marines, and the Airborne... they all have their special tasks.

Now someone answer me something... does D.E.L.T.A. really exist?? I'm a yank, and I have not the slightest if they do or not... supposibly, they are the United States Anti-Terrorism Team... or maybe more.. wink.gif

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Course delta exist, you never heard of Operation Eagle Claw?

Also the computer games Delta force 1-3confused.gif?

Delta is about the most unsecret special forces in the world. smile.gif

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Ok, worst army? I posted this in another thread, but it seems to be relevant here too.

This is a picture from an excersise that we had with the Italians (among others). They wanted to have a RPG Launcher for their group picture and we borrowed them one of our GRGs (Carl Gustav). Notice that the guy holding it is holding it backwards. Go figure.

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.. another candidate would be the US Marines with their lack of skill of anything but tree hugging:

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But to be serious.. the Italians were very good in all the elements of the excersise. The marines were not, but I still think they are quite capable soldiers.

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LOL, hey sarge! I can't see those Marines!, where the hell did they go?!?! ...... must be some new tactic, if all else fails....hug a tree. tounge.gif

I promote the French.

"OH NO, here come the Germans again!"

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Oh, I could turn this into such a flame war... [tounge.gif]

Of course my gut reaction was Canada, what with their 'moose-mounted cavalry'.... lol, JUST KIDDING (please dont cut off our bacon supply) [wink.gif] <span id='postcolor'>

Grrrrrrrrrr biggrin.gif

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> although the South Park movie was pretty damned good...<span id='postcolor'>

Aye, it was damn hillarious. However I had one to many 'blame Canada' comments thrown my way to be considered funny. Arrogant American teenagers with a bad sense of history and no respect can be VERY annoying. biggrin.gif

Tyler

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I was just kidding, I love you Canadians, and I am fully aware that the Canadian Military has its shit together. I would like to nominate France too. Can you say Maginot Line? Because I can say Dien Bien Phu. LOL, I guess they are lovers, not fighters.

My opinion is that any army that relies on conscription is bound to be inferior to a 'professional' army.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ April 04 2002,03:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"OH NO, here come the Germans again!"<span id='postcolor'>

LMAO! I have to agree with you on that one smile.gif

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Uh, Placebo. You want to take any bets on which way this one ends up going?

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I nominate Egypt... they have better equipment, the element of suprise and excellent anti ank weapons and they still loose to the israelis... Go figure.

My uncle saw them when they were in the Gulf. He said that they were terrible soldiers. Completely disorganized. All they wanted to do was loot Kuwait city after it was liberated.

The Syrians were another joke..

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Canada: Home of the largest french population never to surrender to 'zee Germans'

Wah ha

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Hmmm these look pretty wussy smile.gif

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hmmm these look pretty wussy <span id='postcolor'>

You've obviously never had to try to escape one of them in a mall at Chritmas, have you? biggrin.gif

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">

treehug.jpg

another candidate would be the US Marines with their lack of skill of anything but tree hugging<span id='postcolor'>

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROFLOL!!!

what the hell are they doing anyway..

Operation Tree Conception

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wobble @ April 04 2002,05:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROFLOL!!!

what the hell are they doing anyway..

Operation Tree Conception<span id='postcolor'>

3 words.... "I'm a tree!" biggrin.gif

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wobble @ April 04 2002,05:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">

treehug.jpg

another candidate would be the US Marines with their lack of skill of anything but tree hugging<span id='postcolor'>

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROFLOL!!!

what the hell are they doing anyway..

Operation Tree Conception<span id='postcolor'>

AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! MICE! biggrin.gif

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Must be Italians l think. They were kicked by the Greeks while they were more and had much better weapons. This costed Germany a lot.

They could win Matla though!!

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