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Planes! do we really need them that much?

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">An A-C130, while it would be nice, would be sort of dumb, as the airfields are a tad bit small for them (unless the Big Ass Birds used rocket assisted takeoffs).

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The C-130 is by no means a large aircraft (have you even ever been in one, or jumped out of one?) It is considered a medium Tactical Airlift/ Utility Transport in the HC-130 configuration. I've said this before, but the C-130 has a very low stall speed to accomidate paratroopers, which also allows it to land on short airstrips. The C-130 also has massive landing gear which allows it to land on unimproved airstips and even flat areas that have no airstrip. So, hypothetically, even if the runways in OFP aren't long enough, there is alot of extra flat area in front of and behind the runway. Should be plenty of space.

Also, the Rocket Assisted Take Off device is only used when extremely large cargos are involved which alters trim/stall speed charateristics.

I thinks Gimbal's planes are a great compromise for OFP, it allows the fun of a dogfight at a managable speed considering the map size and visibility factors.

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I use the planes in my co-op missions all the time. They work very well for support. If you need to get there in a hurry the planes will make it. Then again they still need a bit of work. Like to see the problems worked out before adding new planes. Along with problems of the rest of the game.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wobble @ April 01 2002,00:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the problem with planes is that they do not fit in the engine.. unless you manaully increase the viewdistance ALOT you only have about 500m of distasnce you can see.... and at the speed your flying that means that IF you see the enemy at the max range (?500m?) and are flying slow.. say 250..  that means AT BEST you will have 2.5 seconds to..

A:verify the target

B:aim your weapon

C:fire

now take into consideration the ROF of the A-10 or SU.. say 300rpm..

lets say that in that 2.5seconds the enemy pops up you manage to only take 1.4 seconds to see the enemy and aim your plane at it .. at most before you hit it you will be about to get aout.. about 4-6 rounds..

and thats with the BEST possable conditions.. flying the slowest, spotting the enemy at the farthest possable.. and aiming PERFECTLY..  

I for one have never killed a tank with either plane.. I doubt I have damaged one..

It makes me laugh when I see pepople say "we need F-16s ad Migs ! so we can dogfight"

you are retarded.

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You must really suck as a pilot. When I fly the A-10 or Su-25 at 400 km/h I can easily take out 3-4 tanks in a single run. This is with the default viewdistance, Veteran mode (with everything off except Super AI).

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next thing we'll need a Cray to run all of these "add-on"s tounge.gif

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When I said 'Big Ass Bird', I was merely referring to the size of the Herky Birds posterior. I mean, he has really let himself go over the years. lol, just tryin to lighten everyones day up. For chrissakes, did yer lieutenant not allow humor? smile.gif

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Sorry, Tex I was cranky that day. No LT's in my unit. Lowest ranking officer is a Captain. (Detatchment commander) SF unit are set up a little differently than conventional units. smile.gif

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Hey, no prob. youve got some valid points, its just what with the view distance and everything, a Spectre gunship wouldnt add alot to OFP... maybe a few cut scenes, but thats about it, because otherwise you wouldnt see it in action, just the results of its firepower. And someone could just make a script for that, right?

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Hmmm planes are good except U cant LOCK missles and bombs. Same for Heli's though (if ur alone that is).

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planes are good its just the problem is they do the job too fast. i mean really if your suposed to give air support to some ground units and there are some tanks you need to tail all you do is tab-fire-tab-fire-tab-fire unit all the tanks are dead. even with many of them they are usually all dead on the second pass and you always kill the shilka before it can even fire on you. targetting needs to be made harder,shilka radar longer, a10 radar longer, and shilka fire range longer IMO

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~~Yawn~~ Just played that flight sim A-10 Cuba... what a load of crap! I still say the flight is a very nice touch in OFP, except the fact that you can't perform rollovers and loops (with a mouse, no joystick for me). Besides, the A-10 looks soooooo damn good in OFP, I personally don't care for the handling - it's a rough engine, so deal with it: like it, or don't like it. tounge.gif

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BIS could really fix the planes in OFP by:

1. increasing the SVD

2. adding static throttle percentages - 0%, 25%, 50%, 75%, %100

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I wouldn't mind fast planes or a AC-130 gunship (although the whole 1 weapon on a platform would ruin this baby). Not really to fly myself, but to add to a mission. To be able to call in a CAS flight, or have the Specter as support on an assualt, it would be sweet. Also to look up and see the contrails of planes twisting overhead, not part of the action, but just eye candy. It would really help with the immersion. Look how much better the game is with Satchels soundpack, now think of all the extras visually that could make a difference.

I can see it now, My squad is pinned down by fire from a tree line. Can't see anyone, but can't move because of the fire. Call in the coordinates and a AC-130 just starts hosing down the whole area. Watch as the tree line is engulfed in fire (kinda like when a helicopter opens up with its cannon, the large puffs of smoke, but just the volume of fire would tear the whole forest apart) then scout out the resualts with the scorched ground and the bodies of the enemy caught in the fire. Or better yet, imagine a F-16 screaming overhead and dropping napalm (somebody created a flamethrower effect, imagine a napalm canister for the A10 or SU25) Now that would be sweet.

COLINMAN

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I love planes, and I mostly fly plane sims, and I was estatic to see my fave plane (warthog) represented in OFP, but compared to the real life version.. it's crap! I mean the A-10 in real life can carry 8 Tons of bombs! and because of the view distance in OFP your plane goes by too fast for really accurate bombing.

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