MotoPsycho 10 Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) I'll be playing and all of a sudden I lose textures, almost everything turns white and FPS goes to chit. Then I get a arma2.exe CTD MY PC SPECS: O/S Vista x64 SP2 CPU Q9650 stock @ 3 GHz 8GB RAM @ 800 EVGA GTX 295 w/ 1792MB vRAM (driver 8.15.0011.9038 + EVGA Enhance 14) Dell 30" Monitor @ 2560x1600x32 res CTD event log info: Problem signature Problem Event Name: APPCRASH Application Name: arma2.exe Application Version: 1.3.0.58627 Application Timestamp: 4a783683 Fault Module Name: arma2.exe Fault Module Version: 1.3.0.58627 Fault Module Timestamp: 4a783683 Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Offset: 00614f1a OS Version: 6.0.6002.2.2.0.256.1 Locale ID: 1033 Additional Information 1: 9a0a Additional Information 2: ec616b3453025c69b6877b54ede13206 Additional Information 3: 33d8 Additional Information 4: 57cbd67f83ae8f5b918e39bd17c6016c This is my Arma2 cfg: language="English"; adapter=-1; 3D_Performance=93750; Resolution_Bpp=32; Resolution_W=2560; Resolution_H=1600; refresh=60; Render_W=2560; Render_H=1600; FSAA=0; postFX=0; HDRPrecision=8; lastDeviceId=""; localVRAM=2144714752; nonlocalVRAM=2144714752; I should be able to make Arma2 scream on this machine! I can't even get the thing to work with medium settings. CPUID HWMonitor notes GPU temps max at 68C and 71C - so not temp. I'm also running the -winxp switch on the shortcut because of the 8MB RAM ---------- Post added at 11:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:45 AM ---------- OK, just tried some of the advice listed at -- http://forums.bistudio.com/showpost.php?p=1401617&postcount=2 And now my arma2.cfg lists: language="English"; adapter=-1; 3D_Performance=-4194304; Resolution_Bpp=32; Resolution_W=2560; Resolution_H=1600; refresh=60; Render_W=2560; Render_H=1600; FSAA=2; postFX=2; HDRPrecision=8; lastDeviceId=""; localVRAM=2138505216; nonlocalVRAM=2138505216; A jump from 93750 to 4194304 on 3D_Perfomance ? :eek: ....renaming the old config and letting arma2 recreate it was a good step. I'll be back with results after a little MP testing. [edit]: Nope! Still getting the same results! Edited August 12, 2009 by MotoPsycho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonney Napalm 10 Posted August 11, 2009 Umm, that's interesting, your 3D_Performance has actually gone from 93750 to -4194304. Mine does this and I don't understand why. I also don't understand how you localVram is detected at 2039 mb when my GTX 295 gets detected at 1858mb, both of which are wrong. I was lead to believe that it should detect 896mb unless yours is a single PCB card and all the ram is on one chip, not split into 2 like mine. Anyways, good luck and let us know how you get on as I'm interested in trying to get my copy to work properly too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJH 10 Posted August 11, 2009 I get the same thing, though on a vastly worse card [9600GT] I wonder if anybody not on Nvidia gets it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
desertjedi 3 Posted August 11, 2009 Looks like you're using the 190.38 drivers. Have you tried a different Nvidia driver, maybe the 186.18s? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotoPsycho 10 Posted August 12, 2009 Umm, that's interesting, your 3D_Performance has actually gone from 93750 to -4194304.Mine does this and I don't understand why. I also don't understand how you localVram is detected at 2039 mb when my GTX 295 gets detected at 1858mb, both of which are wrong. I was lead to believe that it should detect 896mb unless yours is a single PCB card and all the ram is on one chip, not split into 2 like mine. Anyways, good luck and let us know how you get on as I'm interested in trying to get my copy to work properly too. Hi Jonney, Yeah, Physically it's two banks of 896Mb. And I just noticed my 3D_Perf number was a negative, not a positive number. My DirectX reports the card as having 4079MB so I suspect Arma2 is collecting the vRAM from DX? (which includes a HDD cache)? Might explain why such different values -- *shrug*, just a guess though. If/when I figure it out, i'll update this thread. Do developers ever read this stuff and offer support? Or is it solely up to us users? ---------- Post added at 06:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:17 PM ---------- Looks like you're using the 190.38 drivers. Have you tried a different Nvidia driver, maybe the 186.18s? If a modern game requires a old driver - I'd rather get a refund. No offence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
no use for a name 0 Posted August 12, 2009 If a modern game requires a old driver - I'd rather get a refund. No offence. no offense but just because a driver is new doesn't mean it's the best for a certain game. Drivers come out AFTER the game is released; so it's more of an issue with the driver makers IMO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotoPsycho 10 Posted August 12, 2009 (edited) no offense but just because a driver is new doesn't mean it's the best for a certain game. Drivers come out AFTER the game is released; so it's more of an issue with the driver makers IMO Well let's see.... Nobody expects BI (or any developers) to write for drivers that arn't released yet (even though developers get new cards and drivers before the general public...but that's beside the point) - but thanks for coming to the thread and offering up your help with this sage advice. No offence, but you have no use for an opinion either... :p ( <---that is meant as cynical humor!!) 190.38's came out when? And patch 1.3 when? OK then.... :rolleyes: It's not an nvidia issue, its a game developer's to ensure they write code for CURRENT drivers. IMO ;) .... Anyway, seems I've solved my issue by running in full XP SP2 compatability mode on the executable, as well as disabling visual themes ( and of course running as admin ) Also Jonney - try manually setting your 3D_Performance to 100000, I renamed my arma2.cfg again and again just to collect a few config samples at different settings, and this one by far is the best! Best of luck on getting your 295 sorted out as well! See you on the Battlefields. S! Edited August 12, 2009 by MotoPsycho add the screenshot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypine27 0 Posted August 12, 2009 I have had the same problem all the time. Its a verry common problem for people with high end machines. If you search around you'll see that tons of people with high end machines have the white/missing/black/flashing textures. People use various fixes. -maxmem=xxxx, -winxp, limiting ram to 7GB using msconfig, etc Im shelving the game for about a month to see if new nvidia drivers and or a 1.04 patch from BIS help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted August 12, 2009 It's not an nvidia issue, its a game developer's to ensure they write code for CURRENT drivers. IMO ;) What nonsense. Nvidia releases drivers every other week and they have not been particularly good of late either. Eth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotoPsycho 10 Posted August 12, 2009 What nonsense.Nvidia releases drivers every other week and they have not been particularly good of late either. Eth LOL - more sage advice? :rolleyes: Might I direct you towards -- http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=76908 0. You shall try first NVIDIA 190.38 WHQL drivers or later ! ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted August 12, 2009 (edited) LOL - more sage advice? :rolleyes:Might I direct you towards -- http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=76908 ... ? I didn't give you any advice. I made a statement. Learn how to read :p Also, JFYI, that post said you should try the newer drivers if you are having problems. It doesn't state that BIS are liable if they don't work. It's the same advice anyone would give you if they were trying to help you troubleshoot a problem. Edited August 12, 2009 by BangTail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotoPsycho 10 Posted August 13, 2009 ?I didn't give you any advice. I made a statement. Learn how to read :p Also, JFYI, that post said you should try the newer drivers if you are having problems. It doesn't state that BIS are liable if they don't work. It's the same advice anyone would give you if they were trying to help you troubleshoot a problem. Perhaps it is you that should follow your own "statements". Let's review, shall we? It's the same advice anyone would give you if they were trying to help ...anyone? anyone? You mean anyone but YOU, right? As this is exactly opposite of your little nugget of wisdom you deposited in this thread earlier. Again, nobody is suggesting BIS is liable for anything, including software that runs on drivers that aren't invented yet - those are your words not mine. But since the 190.38 drivers were released roughly a month ago, and patch 1.3 is much sooner, then any developer will tell you that those drivers have been tested. The post I linked to somewhat confirms that as BIS (or at least their moderators) found it worthy enough to deem it stickyable. I suggest if you have nothing to add to a troubleshooting thread other than your non-essential opinion that contradicts posts made by moderators, It may serve you well to instead, just move along...with that in mind, I offer you a quote from Abraham Lincoln - "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. " Have a great day! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted August 13, 2009 (edited) Perhaps it is you that should follow your own "statements".Let's review, shall we? ...anyone? anyone? You mean anyone but YOU, right? As this is exactly opposite of your little nugget of wisdom you deposited in this thread earlier. Again, nobody is suggesting BIS is liable for anything, including software that runs on drivers that aren't invented yet - those are your words not mine. But since the 190.38 drivers were released roughly a month ago, and patch 1.3 is much sooner, then any developer will tell you that those drivers have been tested. The post I linked to somewhat confirms that as BIS (or at least their moderators) found it worthy enough to deem it stickyable. I suggest if you have nothing to add to a troubleshooting thread other than your non-essential opinion that contradicts posts made by moderators, It may serve you well to instead, just move along...with that in mind, I offer you a quote from Abraham Lincoln - "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. " Have a great day! I made a statement of fact. As you probably don't know, you can't refute facts. It's not an nvidia issue, its a game developer's to ensure they write code for CURRENT drivers. IMO ;) ! The game works fine on 182.50 (The current driver when A2 was released). Secondly, by many accounts (from users on this forum), 190.38 works well enough for A2. I don't like 190.38 myself, but this has more to do with problems concerning other games (and directly with Win 7) than it has to do with A2. 190.38 are the "current" WHQL drivers but if you would have bothered to do any research, you would know that they are causing significant problems for many users in many games. I guess you should go bitch out every other developer as well. After all, according to your above statement, it's quite realistic to expect developers to recode their games whenever Nvidia releases a buggy driver set /sarcasm off (that's been twice a month lately and is no doubt related to the imminent Win 7 launch, but it doesn't make it any less Nvidia's "fault"). Do you have any idea how many times newer drivers have broken games? I merely stated that driver (and driver stability) are Nvidia's responsibility and not Bohemia's. I'm forever helping people out Mr. 6 posts, just not condescending malcontents such as yourself. Good luck solving your problem and have a sensational day :) Eth Edited August 13, 2009 by BangTail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotoPsycho 10 Posted August 13, 2009 I'm forever helping people out Mr. 6 posts, just not condescending malcontents such as yourself. Ah, forever helping out, well if your "help" in this thread is an example of what you have to offer, It would explain a lot as to why there are so many with ongoing issues... Good luck solving your problem and have a sensational day :)Eth Another example of your infinite wisdom. As I already indicated two posts above your first, my issue has already been solved. Not only that, but I left my solution for others to see, in hopes it may help them with any similar issues. Is this how you want me to "learn how to read"? :p No thanks, my way is working pretty well for me, thanks. p.s. And you would also be well served to put away your sense of self-importance Mr. 764 posts :rolleyes: all your posts in this thread that are worthless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted August 13, 2009 Ah, forever helping out, well if your "help" in this thread is an example of what you have to offer, It would explain a lot as to why there are so many with ongoing issues...Another example of your infinite wisdom. As I already indicated two posts above your first, my issue has already been solved. Not only that, but I left my solution for others to see, in hopes it may help them with any similar issues. Is this how you want me to "learn how to read"? :p No thanks, my way is working pretty well for me, thanks. p.s. And you would also be well served to put away your sense of self-importance Mr. 764 posts :rolleyes: all your posts in this thread that are worthless. Ok, perhaps I was a little harsh. I'm glad you have it working :) Eth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites