Could you include the "Dev diary videos" in the next patch?

[mbmonk 10]

It would go a long way to help new players to the series learn how to play the game. The in game tutorials are okay, but still pretty weak.

I shouldn't have to go to the games website to learn how to play the game.

Just a thought,

Mike

[dmarkwick 261]

Wouldn't that make the patch rather massive?

[mr_centipede 31]

yeah, would make it unnecessarily large... Just ask them to make it downloadable on their website instead. in HD :)

[mbmonk 10]

Wouldn't that make the patch rather massive?

A) Low res versions?

B) A tutorial menu in game that links to the videos? Since it requires an online connection to get the patch anyway, so a link might work in this case

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Just ask them to make it downloadable on their website instead. in HD :)

Lol. I disagree. I shouldn't have to go to your website to learn how to play the game.

When you get a game you don't go to the website first. You only go there if you have a problem or are actively seeking out some information. When you get a new game, you want to play it. If you put a link to the videos in the game it's self then people are much more likely to find the content. And this content is important for new players, in my opinion.

[dmarkwick 261]

When you get a game you don't go to the website first. You only go there if you have a problem or are actively seeking out some information. When you get a new game, you want to play it. If you put a link to the videos in the game it's self then people are much more likely to find the content. And this content is important for new players, in my opinion.

Well, I don't wish to be unnecessarily argumentative, but I should disagree on this point. I don't want to play a game I can play well right away. I wish to learn things and have an amount of difficulty. I don't wish to be able to perform every role in ArmA2 without difficulty. Where would be the gameplay? Where would be the expertise? Getting a great AT man on your team is a nice feeling, knowing he can do it much better than anyone else on the team makes him valuable.

I think some amount of searching for information outside the game represents a shortcut, not a necessity. The alternative is to play the game more, in the role you wish to excel at. Whichever way, it's all good :)

Having said all that, perhaps those videos you speak of should be on the DVD :)

[mbmonk 10]

Well, I don't wish to be unnecessarily argumentative, but I should disagree on this point. I don't want to play a game I can play well right away. I wish to learn things and have an amount of difficulty. I don't wish to be able to perform every role in ArmA2 without difficulty. Where would be the gameplay? Where would be the expertise? Getting a great AT man on your team is a nice feeling, knowing he can do it much better than anyone else on the team makes him valuable.

Don't take this as a harsh or rude comment but have you watch the dev videos parts 1 and 3? They don't tell you how to be good at the game. They only tell you the basics of how to move your character around the environment and the basics of how to control your squad.

I don't feel as if that information removes the challenge; I feel that it removes the frustration of trying to learn a deep system without adequate information being readily available.

I think the videos present the material in an easy to understand fashion. I learned quite a bit from them. I only have played the demo, so maybe the full version has better tutorials, not sure.

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how about making a mission file where you can see the actual video

with camera and voice over. In OFP-times people made them a lot,

movies with included mission files so you could watch them ingame.

[dmarkwick 261]

Don't take this as a harsh or rude comment but have you watch the dev videos parts 1 and 3? They don't tell you how to be good at the game. They only tell you the basics of how to move your character around the environment and the basics of how to control your squad.

I don't feel as if that information removes the challenge; I feel that it removes the frustration of trying to learn a deep system w/o adequate information be readily available.

I think the videos present the material in an easy to understand fashion. I learned quite a bit from them. I only have played the demo, so maybe the full version has better tutorials, not sure.

Ah, OK :) Well, to be fair those skills are in the manual, and from there I guess it's just practice. But I take the point :)

[mbmonk 10]

Ah, OK :) Well, to be fair those skills are in the manual, and from there I guess it's just practice. But I take the point :)

The manual is a very good point. :)

I think the videos are a better way to present that information, but that is just me :)