Badgerboy 0 Posted March 1, 2002 Is there anyone you can report moderators too please? I believe that locking 4 topics purely because you don't like what they say is wrong. Instead of locking the topics why not try to discuss the issue, after all your job is to help the members get along. This current path of dare I say it, 'abuse of power' will merely inflame the posters attitudes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeloniousPunk 0 Posted March 1, 2002 Man, you are really striving for a ban aren't you? Why don't you put your petulance aside and relax? It's rather ironic don't you think that you open a thread about the childishness of some people on the board and then you start to pout and antagonize the moderators at a perceived slight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 1, 2002 I have closed 2 topics, one that was clearly inflamitory and aimed at creating another big arguement, not to mention the fact that there is already 3 or 4 other threads that regard the EXACT same topic. Your first topic was closed because for a start it was in the wrong forum and secondly it was begining to turn into an "anti-n00bie" post. The extra topic I closed was where you referred to me as a facist, clearly a mature, adult thing to say. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">after all your job is to help the members get along.<span id='postcolor'> Our "job" is to see the forum running smoothly with as little crap as possible from people like you who do nothing but create friction and call people facists. If the mods left this forum it would quickly become posts containing flame, porn, random images, porn, flame, crap. In the future can you post topics in the correct forum. Thanks. I'll leave this open because I'm quite prepared to take criticism and to tell you why I closed those threads. if you feel it's neccessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted March 1, 2002 I wasn't my intention to launch an attack on anyone, nor do I blieve that was giving the impression of that. If you check any of my posts over the months you will see that they try to be contructive and helpful, as well as raising valid points. I may have over reacted with the 'facist' remark, but I saw the locking of the topic over a single comment a bit over the top. I thought a simple pointer/reminder from yourself would be enough to steer anyone away from a possible attack/flame. People respect your input and comments and thats why your a moderator, but it disheartens people when they are stopped in their tracks by someone else. Thank you for not locking this particular topic, as it allows myself and others to reply, and you to understand my thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 1, 2002 The unfortuneate reality right now is that the forum is so full of pointless posts, rants and flames that when members of BIS want to comment on a subject it's hard to find the correct post containing the sensible ideas, suggestions and criticisms. This is not good in a time when we want to basically hear from Marek daily. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I thought a simple pointer/reminder from yourself would be enough to steer anyone away from a possible attack/flame.<span id='postcolor'> I've learnt from experience that people dont listern to moderators when they ask people to stop talking about a subject..A good example is people seem to have a fetish for talking about warez, even talking about owning warez copies of OFP, many times I've asked people to stop (this forum is not the place for talk of Warez) but, nope they continue regardless. It's the exact same situation with people who flame BIS. I read one post from some one who said "BIS suchs my ass" or something similar. Not acceptable. Just as it isn't acceptable for people to make inflamitory comments saying "BIS aren't releasing tools because they want people to buy their software". At this point those types of comments make the situation at hand much harder to control and much harder for sensible debate to commence. As I said, I didn't close your first topic because of something you said, I closed it because it was rapidly becoming an anti-n00b post due to other members of the forum. We have firm rules against people flaming and bashing each other on this forum. In reality I shouldn't let this thread continue because it's clearly a flame against me. I will however move it to OFFtopic because it doesn't belong in general. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted March 1, 2002 I agree with the deletion of the pointless/offensive posts like those mentioned, but as you noticed I don't decend into a crude barrage of insults, which are offensive. As for flaming you, my initial coments were slightly too much, but I believe this thread is a good platfrom for people to put forward their views without flaming individual people. I point out, that I have never flamed individuals or started inflammatory topics on this board, but it appears something's get dragged out of context occasionally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Schweitzer 10 Posted March 1, 2002 Amourdave: I know it is realy not my business here, but sometimes I think threads are locked too quickly. Purely because I believe in the theory of "self-regulation". Example 1: If there is too much spamming in a thread, then dont close it too quickly, cause if you do so another thread will become the waste-disposal for spammers and then be ruined. Keep some spaming threads alive. Example 2:If there is someone who calls someone else something like "?=(/"=?§()" , then give the insulted person the chance to self-defend. Cause if he cant lose any of his steam-pressure he will load more and more agressivity and one day release in some interesting discussion on someone who doesnt deserve it (this is one reason why you find so much bashing and flaming and people that go psycho as "rassisti"). Sigmund Freud called that the "stamp-collection phenomena". Anyway a little rethoric battle keeps this forum alive and normal members (I mean not moderators) got a voice too. Example 3: If there are several threads open about the same topic at the same time, then two out of three should be closed, cause worthful arguments may be lost because they only find their way into one thread but not the two others! Get what I mean? (screw my "german-english"). This is supposed to be a constructive remark and please dont take it as a "you are wrong, he is right" comment. I dont want to agree explicitly with any of you two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nordin dk 0 Posted March 1, 2002 @BadgerBoy: If you insist that you are absolutely, undoubtibly innocent, then why don't you write to the other Mod's, and they'll look into it. There's a very good chance you dont have a case though. So best advice: Forget it, move on, or bitch somewhere else. Topics are locked often, or even deleted. Welcome to the offtopic Forum b.t.w. We all float down here... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 1, 2002 I have read what you have to say and I'm not going to post in this thread anymore. I've answered why I closed those threads to a satisfactory level I believe. Thread will stay open. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Op 0 Posted March 1, 2002 the mods all appear to be close friends, so if you really did have a complaint or was offended by something they did, they would be complately immune from complaints  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damage Inc 0 Posted March 1, 2002 That's because most of them are from OFPN. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stelled Eagle 2 Posted March 1, 2002 biggest complaint about new-age mods, they delete/close every thread wich is fun. Is fun illegal in OFP boards? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLight 0 Posted March 1, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FeloniousPunk @ Mar. 01 2002,15:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Man, you are really striving for a ban aren't you?<span id='postcolor'> What are you talking about? He isn't doing anything wrong... Saying what you think isn't a crime as long as you keep it clean. It would be very unfair to ban someone just cuz he says what he thinks about something or someone! After all, he (forgot your name and i'm too lazy to look:D , sry for that) isn't blaming anyone or mentioning any names... This post isn't asking for a ban, it's not because the mods have more "power" than others, that they can't make mistakes, it's good to tell them what you think about their work so they can adjust it to make it even better. That's what i think And if one of the mods isn't doing their job well they should be told, 'course this isn't anything personnel but when it's best for the forum then it's better to do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Op 0 Posted March 1, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Nobby @ Mar. 01 2002,15:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">biggest complaint about new-age mods, they delete/close every thread wich is fun. Is fun illegal in OFP boards?<span id='postcolor'> yes.. and any topic relating to something that happened in the old forums gets closed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hilandor 1 Posted March 1, 2002 i think it also has to be added that a lot of topics start of fantastic then a few folk get on them and turn them into spam and flame, resulting in the topic being closed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLight 0 Posted March 1, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Nobby @ Mar. 01 2002,16:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">biggest complaint about new-age mods, they delete/close every thread wich is fun. Is fun illegal in OFP boards?<span id='postcolor'> I kinda agree, a lot of really cool threads are being deleted just cuz ppl are talking to eachother, telling jokes and acting like real idiots on it! It's great to just have fun for a while, personally i don't understand why these posts are being deleted, it doesn't hurt anyone, right? Ok, there are some really stupid polls and threads on this forum once in a while and sometimes there are a bit too much threads that are "just for fun". But some of them can be deleted and the others can be left open right? Perhaps one of the mods could help us out here... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damage Inc 0 Posted March 1, 2002 THERE WILL BE NO FUN! FUN WILL RESULT IN A BAN! WE ONLY WANT SERIOUS THREADS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLight 0 Posted March 1, 2002 Yeah Hilandor, that's treu too, but i also see a lot of threads that are just for fun dissapear. I also see a lotta fantastic threads that are being "spammed" but after a while the spamming stops and it goes back to the original subject. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nordin dk 0 Posted March 1, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i think it also has to be added that a lot of topics start of fantastic then a few folk get on them and turn them into spam and flame, resulting in the topic being closed.<span id='postcolor'> It could even happen in this thread Seriously though, I understand BadgerBoy's frustrations. It's not fun to put forth what you believe is a justifiable critique of the mod's, only to find the thread gone a few minutes later. What if a lot of people actually have problems with a moderator, and that mod just deletes every complaint? (fictitious case...don't worry ArmourDave) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damage Inc 0 Posted March 1, 2002 LOL funny picture How about this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLight 0 Posted March 1, 2002 J/k, no really, i think we should make some rule that makes it ok to make some "just for fun threads" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Schweitzer 10 Posted March 1, 2002 I made that point before you. But noone reads my comments, because they are longer than three lines and because you hate me because I am German. You racists..! (I gonna get banned now..see you in the OFP2 Forum! ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nordin dk 0 Posted March 1, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Damage Inc @ Mar. 01 2002,16:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">LOL funny picture How about this? <span id='postcolor'> It keeps gettin' better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
