MK19 and AGS-30 No Recoil Replacement Pack

[max power 21]

Great work Frederf, like this alot (- the tracers)!

Sorry for a stupid question but where exactly do I add:

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tracerColor[] = {0, 0, 0, 0};

tracerColorR[] = {0, 0, 0, 0};

In the ammo config to get rid of the tracers?

/KC

It makes the standard bis tracers invisible.

edit:

Smash this on the end there as a dirty way to make them fire at a realistic rate. .16 = 375 rpm

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class CfgWeapons {

class MGun;

class AGS30: MGun {

reloadTime = 0.16;

};

class MK19: MGun {

reloadTime = 0.16;

};

};

[CameronMcDonald 146]

Nice work. I would like to see "nade tracer" functionality built into this, however. That way we can have the visible nades without the damned recoil!

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[Dwarden 1125]

plantiff1 AGS should be 400 rpm so 0.15 for reloadtime ....

[JCLewis 0]

Ok, if you guys are using the 1.9 or higher patch here is the correct config to have them fire at the appropriate fire rate:

/*extern*/ class Mgun;

class MK19: Mgun //400 rpm at full FPS

{

reloadTime = 0.200000;

};

class AGS30: Mgun //400 rpm at full FPS

{

reloadTime = 0.200000;

};

};

[max power 21]

plantiff1 AGS should be 400 rpm so 0.15 for reloadtime ....

Oh, does the AGS fire faster than the mk19? the rpm of the mk19 is listed at 350 - 400. I just split the difference. When I was testing, 400 seemed a little fast compared to video reference.

[cole 0]

Ok, if you guys are using the 1.9 or higher patch here is the correct config to have them fire at the appropriate fire rate:

*config stuff here*

Do I just copy that to the end of the config file? I'm really a supernoob at this so pardon my question.

Important:

Does anyone know how to get the grenade model back instead of a laser tracer/no tracer? That looked SO much better

Would be much appreciated

[frederf 0]

simulation shotBullet does not have a modeled projectile like shotShell.

I made some RoF changes to the MK19 in one version to bring it up to 340 RPM but I got flack for the unrealism of firing the weapon at full cyclic forever without any jams, overheats, or feed errors so I didn't include it.

[CameronMcDonald 146]

I thought it would be possible to create a custom tracer using the grenade model, however, I'm not sure whether this is feasible ingame - one would be best asking tracer gurus like Sickboy.

[osjules 0]

Ok, if you guys are using the 1.9 or higher patch here is the correct config to have them fire at the appropriate fire rate:

/*extern*/ class Mgun;

class MK19: Mgun //400 rpm at full FPS

{

reloadTime = 0.200000;

};

class AGS30: Mgun //400 rpm at full FPS

{

reloadTime = 0.200000;

};

};

I can't seem to get this to work...can you show how it should be placed within the whole config file?

[JCLewis 0]

sure, first of all here,I made the config , you can download it from here,. Now, you can eitherput the @wpn folder in your arma directory and re-dit the properties in the Arma shortcut, or you can simply take the pbo files in the wpn wpn addons folder and put them in the addons folder in th earma directory. I set it so that ALL weapons fire at the realistic fire rate. INCLUDING the mk-19 and AGS-390, plus the mk-19 and ags-30 won'nt make the vehicles jump back when you use it. ENJOY!! Remember, this addon is only for 1.09 and higher.

HEre: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3KG90SGD

[frederf 0]

Why would it be for 1.09 and higher? The MK19 and AGS_30 weapon classes have been the same since day 1.

[Dwarden 1125]

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class CfgPatches {

class MK19AGS30NoRecoil {

units[] = {};

requiredAddons[] = {"CAData", "CAWeapons"};

};

};

class CfgAmmo {

class G_40mm_HE; // External class reference

class G_40mm_HE_NoRecoil: G_40mm_HE {

simulation = "shotBullet";

deflecting=5;

maxSpeed=240; // barrel exiting speed is ~240m/s

tracerColor[] = {0, 0, 0, 0};

tracerColorR[] = {0, 0, 0, 0};

SIX_tracerEnable = 1;

SIX_tracerColor = "R";

SIX_tracerPer = 1;

SIX_tracerSize = "Small";

SIX_tracerLife = 20.345;

};

class G_30mm_HE; // External class reference

class G_30mm_HE_NoRecoil: G_30mm_HE {

simulation = "shotBullet";

deflecting=5;

maxSpeed=185; // barrel exiting speed is 185m/s for both AGS-17/AGS-30

//Description: hit value is valid when projectile moves at this speed. With lower speed the hit caused by the ammo is lower as well.

//typicalSpeed=120; //unsure

//Description: Adjusts the drag of a projectile. Lower values decrease drag, higher values increase drag.

//sideAirFriction=0.5; // some frictions should be in already

tracerColor[] = {0, 0, 0, 0};

tracerColorR[] = {0, 0, 0, 0};

SIX_tracerEnable = 1;

SIX_tracerColor = "G";

SIX_tracerPer = 1;

SIX_tracerSize = "Small";

SIX_tracerLife = 20.345;

};

};

class CfgMagazines {

class VehicleMagazine; // External class reference

class 48Rnd_40mm_MK19: VehicleMagazine {

ammo = "G_40mm_HE_NoRecoil";

};

class 29Rnd_30mm_AGS30: VehicleMagazine {

ammo = "G_30mm_HE_NoRecoil";

};

};

class CfgWeapons {

class MGun;

class AGS30: MGun {

//3 firemodes: single shot + burst 50~100 rnd/m + burst 350~400 rnd/m

//burst = 2;

//autoFire = 1;

initSpeed = 185; // barrel exiting speed is 185m/s for both AGS-17/AGS-30

reloadTime = 0.15; //375-400-(420) rpm

//Description: at shorter distance delay (aiRateOfFire) goes lineary to zero

//aiRateOfFireDistance = 1700;

maxRange = 1700; //max effective range 1700m , point target range 800-1000m

maxRangeProbab = 0.03;

midRange = 900;

midRangeProbab = 0.66;

minRange = 36; //VOG-17M KR is 72m, VOG-30 KR is 115m let's use half

minRangeProbab = 0.99;

};

class MK19: MGun {

//3 firemodes: sustained 40 rnd/m + rapid: 60 rnd/m + cyclic : 325~375 rnd/m

initSpeed = 240; // barrel exiting speed is ~240

reloadTime = 0.16; //375 rnd/m

//Description: at shorter distance delay (aiRateOfFire) goes lineary to zero

//aiRateOfFireDistance = 2200;

maxRange = 2200; // max effective range 2200m, point range 1500-1600m

maxRangeProbab = 0.03;

midRange = 1550;

midRangeProbab = 0.66;

minRange = 37; //safe distance on grenades 75m but lets use half

minRangeProbab = 0.99;

};

};

any1 opinions

[kuIoodporny 45]

Kinda interesting!

[max power 21]

Dwarden, I like it a lot.

Do those weapons really have those different modes?

Also, is there a way to get vehicle crews to fire in further and further spaced bursts instead of a linear ratio between distance and ai rate of fire?

[frederf 0]

Dwarden, I like it a lot.

Do those weapons really have those different modes?

Also, is there a way to get vehicle crews to fire in further and further spaced bursts instead of a linear ratio between distance and ai rate of fire?

No they don't. Real weapon fires cyclic when you hold down the trigger, like an M249.

The issue here is making the AI fires believable. How that should be configured is so that only the AI sees/uses those modes so you can get some realistic shooting rates from the AI.

Also you can make a whole fire mode (for the AI) that uses bursts of 3 or whatever to simulate the user choosing to fire in three-round bursts.

[max power 21]

Dwarden, I like it a lot.

Do those weapons really have those different modes?

Also, is there a way to get vehicle crews to fire in further and further spaced bursts instead of a linear ratio between distance and ai rate of fire?

No they don't. Real weapon fires cyclic when you hold down the trigger, like an M249.

The issue here is making the AI fires believable. How that should be configured is so that only the AI sees/uses those modes so you can get some realistic shooting rates from the AI.

Also you can make a whole fire mode (for the AI) that uses bursts of 3 or whatever to simulate the user choosing to fire in three-round bursts.

yeah. I noticed that the ai machinegunners fire in bursts now instead of ofp style linear ratio. it's nice to know that this can be applied to vehicles too!

[Dwarden 1125]

all is possible ...

what i posted is w/o multiple firemodes ...

the values are there so if someone get time he may implement it ...

and in fact it should be easy to make AGS-17 (bit different values, worse ammo, bigger height (maybe slower tracking)) ...