Angry Securom

[chazman24 0]

I just bought arma and when i install i get a securom 7000 error i deleted and uninstalled all my virtual drive programs and did everything securom advised me to do, and i reinstalled like 4 05 times ! but it is still happening i then thought maybe the crack might work so i tried that and got a ppspeculer shader error !

im running a athlon 3200 venice

1gig ddr

9600pro

[desertfox 2]

Re-install Windows XP without game-cracking tools.

Could take months to get into the depths of your regisrty to find out what remains there are.

[chazman24 0]

i think i will have to i think my registry has gone haywire ... any way i sent of to securom if they cant do it looks like its format time ...

[chazman24 0]

Formatted *whimpers * but it got armed assault working so yay !! securom has really done there work this time I hope piraters have a hard time cracking this one

[MamiyaOtaru 1]

I hope piraters have a hard time cracking this one

Unfortunately they don't.  But at least securom succeeded in making your life miserable (formatting your comp?  wtf) in return for actually buying the game.

Don't get the wrong idea of my views on piracy.  Piracy blows.  People deserve to be paid for their work.  I just don't think copy "protection" ever works.  It only inconveniences legitimate users.  

BIS has the right idea blacklisting publicly known keys.  It prevents people from using online multiplayer, and it prevents them from using any patches issued after the key becomes known.  It's also a very good deterrent to giving your key to anyone, since it would make your game unupdatable.  This is actually effective (especially in a game with such a large multiplayer component).  Securom is not.

It does make publishers feel better though (for some reason), and BIS needs publishers, so by all means appease them.

[sixfour 0]

Re-install Windows XP without game-cracking tools.

Could take months to get into the depths of your regisrty to find out what remains there are.

Programs like Daemon Tools are not game cracking tools.

[feersum.endjinn 6]

Securom doesn't really care about Daemontools or other virtual CD drives until it detects game is actually running from image. I have running it all the time and of all software I have, only some certain patch of Raven Shield wouldn't run at all with Daemontools present in system (and it got fixed in next patch).

[chazman24 0]

I know what you mean copy protection doesnt really work .... take gal civ 2 for instance.. no cd key .. no copy protection yet made number 1 Best selling game for a while.

Individual cd keys is a good way of protection .. i just think copy protection programs are getting more and more intrusive ... which means Piraters will get more and more intrusive. But i admit i downloaded gal civ 2 ... and whent and bought the game i used the download as a * very large demo with all features * but i did go and buy it mainly because they didnt use no protection and this was at the height of the Starforce generation..

well my system is formatted and nice and clean now * accept the game ! when is the english patch !

[JdB 151]

I can recall several instances were people who bought the game were not able to play the game because "unique" serials were blacklisted. Keygens (real generators anyway) have a small of generating your legal serial, and get it blacklisted. Serial-protection is not always failsafe.

And yes, SecuRom and other copy-protections are too intrusive by totally blocking access when you happen to have a tools such as Daemon tools installed (which is not an illegal program, but can be used for that purpose, but so can Windows). The best copy protection so far has been Fade imo.

Copy protections only hurt the people that legally bought the product. People that don't buy it can bypass it easily. The music industry is finding out exactly the same with their DMR protections.

And using no-cd programs is not a problem when you've bought the game, but don't come here expecting help when you don't follow the official instructions on using the product (generally speaking). BIS doesn't offer support for 3rd party mods either.

[kegetys 2]

SecuRom is quite paranoid about programs running, I have found it doesn't allow any of the SysInternals tools (Official Microsoft tools today!) running when you try to run a SecuRom game. Most annoying feature is that if you run SysInternals Filemon once, then you need to restart windows to get any SecuRom game working. No idea what the logic behind all that is since they're all useful generic tools that do not really have much use when "cracking" a game.

[chazman24 0]

They need to develop a non intrusive but secure system, with the growing use of the internet maybe a online verification but yet again that can be tricked as well and for people who dont have the internet it can be hard,

They need to think or a different method other then serial keys to have protection,

Maybe some typeverification that is produced when you are at the shop, like mobile phone top up systems and your key becomes active only after you have bought the game .. ?

[Jack-UK 0]

SecuRom is quite paranoid about programs running, I have found it doesn't allow any of the SysInternals tools (Official Microsoft tools today! running when you try to run a SecuRom game. Most annoying feature is that if you run SysInternals Filemon once, then you need to restart windows to get any SecuRom game working. No idea what the logic behind all that is since they're all useful generic tools that do not really have much use when "cracking" a game.

Had the exact same problem myself, i needed to stop some reg keys keeping on adding themselves so i used that program, brilliant.. tried to run arma after it was closed and SecuRom blocked it.

And yeah, FADE is pretty good protection... Serial keys are pretty good protection in my opineon, yes they have flaws, but far fewer than some of this copy protection *cough*czech version*cough*

And i agree that SecuRom should only block Daemon tools running unless the image of ArmA is mounted... I personally dont use Daemon, ive used alcohol in the past, good for mounting multiple movies on laptops and stuff... no need to carry the DVD's with ya

Glad to hear you got it sorted Chaz, i personally would be angry if i had to reformat my pc to play a game :S (i got tons of data which would take ages to reinstall/redownload and backup :S) i guess SecuRom are lucky they blocked a well mannered customer

[Guest Ti0n3r]

Mail 505 games and tell them to send you a new HDD for you to install a clean Windows + ArmA on, so you can play the game you payed for.

[psycosmos 0]

Securom doesn't really care about Daemontools or other virtual CD drives until it detects game is actually running from image. I have running it all the time and of all software I have, only some certain patch of Raven Shield wouldn't run at all with Daemontools present in system (and it got fixed in next patch).

Well, it shouldn't care for them, however, that doesn't stop it from doing it sometimes, I saw it myself.

MamiyaOtaru, exactly how I think about it :)

[chazman24 0]

Lol well yeah after i formatted i forgot about battlefield 2142 i had installed and many other's

But ill see what they can do ... i might asked for one of those 14k rpm cheetah drives as a replacement ....

but i honestly deleted every imaginable image tool , including nero, magic iso and daemon * the three i had installed and tryed every thing from reg cure and what securom advised !!

But hey Its all good now ..