Tell us the truth about OFP2

[dm 9]

What the hell is wrong with you people?

ArmA is out within the next few months, yet all you can do is bitch about how Game2 is delayed?!?!?!

Jesus H Christ people, if the wait for Game2 is that bad for you, I'd hate to see what you are like in a supermarket or burger king or some shit like that.

Listen up and face the facts:

ArmA did not delay Game2, it was a totally seperate project.

There is NO "lets make them wait" conspiracy.

The "latest" screenshots (like the ones in the PC Format article) do NOT date back 1.5 years. They do infact date back 4 MONTHS

Game2 as it is now is NOT what was announced in 2003. Damnit people, BI dont have a contract with Codies any more, STOP citing interviews from 3 years ago.

PLENTY has changed since the announcement in 2003. Optimisations from the xbox work, a new graphics engine, a new physics engine, significant changes to the way terrain works. That sort of stuff doesnt develop its self over night, and most of what is being shown now was not possible on hardware from 3+ years ago.

Seriously... Get over yourselves, BI are not delaying Game2 just to spite you, just to make the wait longer/harder, just to make you lose sleep at night. No, they are delaying Game2 to make better use of the new technology becoming available in the next few months (stuff like dx10 mayhaps)

Oh and deanos, really dude, STOP citing 3 year old interviews. AND if you HAVE to cite them, cite them properly. In your quote it also talks about the BIA team, who have nothing to do with the development of Game2 or whatever, since they work on VBS, which is based on the engine supplied to them by BI in Prague (some of whom DO work on Game2). And it also includes people like Placebo, and other admin staff who have nothing to do with the actual development of the games.

I say again, there is no conspiracy. Just technological reasons.

[deanosbeano 0]

lol i coulda retaliated, but to be honest, i guess were not allowed to debate here anymore.

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arma didnt delay game2 there seperate .

i will try to absorb this. and make it my mantra.

btw i cite 2003 cause some people dont know what ofp2 is/was they think arma is game2 .

anyway i had enuff of this shite, i thought forums was a place to put your opinions without threat of being flamed.

i am aoutta here , not a place i wanna spend the next 5 years .

laters all .

have fun

DB

one favour = one last line = the very nature of presence of arma would always in my mind mean ofp2 was delayed. it may not have delayed the ver expanding goals of brothers spanel,but it did delay the anounced ofp2

[dm 9]

Hey, I love debate as much as the next guy on these forums.

What I don't love is baseless speculation, and statements based on information that is either wrong, or horrifically out of date.

[Victor_S. 0]

@deanosbeano - You are obviously not a very smart person based on what you have previously posted in this thread. DeadMeatXM2 laid out the facts to you but you still have not been able to "absorb" them. I say you are not very smart, becasue your only response to anything presented is the same old "...so that doesn't change the fact that arma is delayed by Game 2". Your either thick headed or you dont read what anyone else writes. There is no need to be an ass to Deadmeat because he won't agree with you, and if you don't want to be here by all means leave, because you are not really contributing anything anyways.

In my opinion this thread should be locked, serves no purpose other than to piss people off.

[Daniel 0]

I don't really see whats changed with what BIS promised for Game 2, all I see is a much better ArmA than I expected when it was first anounced. I'm sure BIS will be concentrating resources on ArmA till it's out of the way, and they can put Game 2 into full swing.

Mind you, that's basless speculation - just what I reckon.

[chris330 0]

To the original poster you're asking an awful lot to have maps spread out over thousands of miles and the like.

The only game I've played which can do this is BattleGround Europe which is an excellent game although it has very repetitive scenery aspects and the graphics are not even on par with Operation Flashpoint (the original). The team play aspect and weapon realism and the fact that every player you see is human controlled totally makes up for this though.

Without trying to be rude (and I'm really not) what you seem to be suffering from is a case of uber-consumerism disease. People can only create things within the boundaries of reality. With BattleGround Europe a totally new and incredible game experience (for me anyway) has been made simply by pushing the gameplay aspect into never before reached levels by making it a solely multiplayer game open to 1000's of players at a time. The realism is unbelievable but the graphics are poor compared to today's standards.

But it doesn't matter. Graphically the units in the game are perfectly adequate representations of the real thing and are not ugly to the eye, so they don't have to be perfect.

If software developers continue to aim their products only at people with your kind of tastes (graphics, graphics, graphics) then gameplay will die an absolute death and eventually I suspect all the long-term game fans will disappear, we'll all spend a fortune on hardware upgrades and the market will eventually implode.

I'm happy to wait for as long as it takes for Bohemia to release their stuff if it means it's going to be good quality when it arrives. You need to be realistic about all this next generation game stuff though.

Progress in all areas can't continue forever mate, and the illusion that it can and must is something of a sickness inherent in Western society which causes an awful lot of grief.

Just chill and out and find something else to play or something else to do while it all arrives

[TwentyFourSeven 0]

I support delay in release for many reasons. 1) Next gen consoles are eating up the gaming market especially with PS3 on horizon. 2) Next Gen graphics chip for high end PCs in production. 3) My Pc aint a hope in hell to run next ofp game so gives me time to save.

[Garcia 0]

Guys please stop your speculations over wether or not AA is better than OFP1, whatever. Start a new topic for all I care.

They are discussing wether or not development of ArmA caused delay to Game2...

Quote[/b] ]All I was asking is why dont they give us any information on the status of Game 2 and why was the release date moved by about 2 years AGAIN.

1: As DM said (and I choose to belive him) it was delayed so Marek/Suma can make it the way they want it. Do you think you can have islands on 195724252795279552 square km, AI that behaves just like humans, millions of soldiers/vehicles/etc, etc etc with current technology? There's no point in developing and releasing a game nobody can run is there? There is no point in releasing a game that haven't reached it's full potential because some people want to buy the game that they can't run because it demands too much from the computers 99% of the people have?

2: They don't release any information because there's not any information that people need to know. The game i 2 years into the future, what information should they release? Information about how the game is ATM so people can whine all day long that they want all kinds of stupid features and because they find the early alpha-stage screenshots not to fulfill their demands...? I honestly don't see what more information they can release about the game ATM. They've said what date they think the game might be out at ATM, if everything goes as planned (which doesn't happen often), they've told what to expect from the game, they've released some screenshots of the game...what more is there to give of information?

[Guest Ti0n3r]

I just wanna say LOL at this topic Armed Assault anyone?

[Garcia 0]

I just wanna say LOL at this topic Armed Assault anyone?

I honestly have to second that one

[Warin 0]

How about we use Duke Nuke'em Forever as a benchmark for pushing back release dates? Compared to DNF, then new game from BIS is still right on schedule

[Garcia 0]

How about we use Duke Nuke'em Forever as a benchmark for pushing back release dates?  Compared to DNF, then new game from BIS is still right on schedule

But Duke Nuke'em is such revolutionary game. They're going ways nobody else has gone before them and such...not like Game2...been there done that...

Just as a note for whoever may not have seen it...that was 110% sarcasm

Lets look at another example too. The new Sam & Max game. There's, as far as I know, nothing you've never seen before in that game when it comes to technology and such. The game was still pushed back...a lot...think it was on the verge of being cancelled, even though it apparently wasn't too far from being finished. I think it was a few month ago that I read it was soon done...again...and this was about a year since I read it was possibly being cancelled. I don't know why it happened, but it just shows that the gaming industry isn't something that goes as planned every time. Factors you can't control can appear and mess up a lot.