AT weapons...

[Major Fubar 0]

{I think HindHunter may have already posted a topic similar to this, if so, forgive me}

Anyone else find it strange that the preferred US heavy AT weapon is the Carl Gustav?

I would have thought the M47 Dragon would have been a more abvious choice.

The other thing I fnd odd is that the Carl Gustav can take out a T72 with one hit, but a TOW can't. In the real world (sorry to bring out this old chestnut) the TOW carries a much more powerful and penetrating warhead than the Carl Gustav 84mm.

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But does anyone have an opinion about this?

[Wobble 1]

was the Dragon around in 1985.. in numbers that would warrant its use in the scenario OFP presents?

[nyles 11]

Wasn't the CG a Ranger only AT weapon anyways?

AFAIK standard army troopers used different weapons and the CG was used for Ranger units/Spec Ops due to its varrying and thus flexible ammunition.

correct me if im wrong..

[Sandman 0]

The first Dragon was fielded in the 70´s. Later devolped - Dragon2 (Superdragon) in the 90´s.

The Carl Gustav (M3 MAAWS) was fielded by the Rangers as late as the 90´s I believe. Is it fielded to "regular" army troops in the U.S today?

The armour penetration of the Dragon (the original) is about the same as the Carl Gustav (400 mm roughly). Dragon2 is a little better (500+ mm)...

Dragon2 will be replaced by the Javelin, which will be the main weapon for dismounted infantry in the future. Its superior to any other man-portable AT-weapon in every sence.

The Javelin is avaliable as an addon in OFP and its great (for those of U that didnt know).

[Guest]

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Are you SURE about that? Have you taken into consideration the French Giat Apilas and the Russian RPG29? I KNOW there is faked videos of the Javelin on the internet, these maybe confusing your judgement. I dont know too much about the Javelin but from what I've head it's armour penetration statistics are not as good as either the Apilas or the RPG29.

EDIT: Just did a little research into the Javelin and it would seem it has armour penetration of roughly 600MM, weighs nearly 30KG's and requires a 2 man crew. Compared to the RPG29 with an armour penetration of 850MM's BEHIND RA and a weight closer to 10KG's I dont see how your statement can be true

[varjo 0]

AFAIK APilas has about 700 mm penetration and it is consired one the best....errr... i guess the word is bazookas.

CG is also Bazooka but AT-4 is AT missile. Real AT-missiles weight about 50 kilos and one can not fire them from elbow or something.

Isn't Javelin and TOW a AT-missile. At least in Finland AT-troops use At-4/5 and TOW for heavy defense and Apilas and laws for light defense.

Also missiles are of course controlled by 2 or more men.

[Guest]

I think the Apilas is classed as a one shot disposable LAW. AT-4 weighs about 33KG's w/ tripod and IS used by the Finnish army but is considered obsolete and is rapidly being replaced if I remember correctly. The Apilas is still a more capable Anti-Tank weapon than the AT-4..I guess the Fins just have an abundance of them and they will most likely be phaised out in the near future. Same with the AT-5 I believe.

Maybe Scooby can comment, he was in the FDF and has a broad knowledge of their AT weapons.

Think this thread should be moved to Off Topic.