456820 0 Posted December 31, 2005 Well ive been thinking of buying a new graphics cards at the moment i have a Nvidia GeForce 2 (Ouch i know) Anyway im thinking of upgrading to One of these But there has been a few problems recently with other peoples drivers and cards so im just checking before i ay 210Å and find out OFP is not going to work with that card Anyway what do people think has anyone else got that card if so how is it with OFP and so on just give me lots of info ill get my Brother to make sense out of it Thanks (Also sorry if this isnt the right place for this) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted December 31, 2005 You cant buy that card, you would need a whole new PC . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Tea 0 Posted December 31, 2005 PCI Express is needed for that card. When you don`t have an newer mainboard, you will have an AGP Port. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
456820 0 Posted December 31, 2005 i see ill check that over with my Brother i swear hes just making me waste my money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
456820 0 Posted December 31, 2005 well he says "Does that mean it will work in an AGP port ?" oh and We have PCI ports and an AGP port so will it work ? Im a bit of a computer noob and my Brothers just a pain in the arse and doesnt like helping me so this may be dificult Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted December 31, 2005 You have one agp slot for your AGP graphics card and pci slots for other devices such has soundcard, network cards, dialup modems and stuff like that, to plug a card like that you would need a PCI-E slot wich is slowly replacing AGP at the moment wich means a new motherboard and compatible HW. Also to actually use such a high end video card you need a PC that doesnt bottleneck it. If you just want to play OPFR you dont need anything like that. Now go and slap you brother in the back of the head . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
456820 0 Posted December 31, 2005 hey thanks for that info ill tell my bro then slap him in the back of the head Also i dont just want the card for OFP i want it for other games which didnt work with my Geforece 2 like Brothers in Arms and other games Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Tea 0 Posted December 31, 2005 I bought a GeForce 6600 GT AGP Card with 128 MB Ram for 140 €, it will work in your PC too. When you order a new card, keep in mind, for your current mainboard it must be an AGP Card. F.E.A.R. works fine with my card too. There is an XFX 128MB GeForce 6600 GT AGP @ e-bug.de for 157,32 €, this would work too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
456820 0 Posted December 31, 2005 hey Well i think were looking for a 256Mb card so if you know any which iwll work please do post and were looking into those you suggested Im not really sure whats going on because my bro isnt explaing all that well Just if you know of any cards with 256Mb then please post and also post other incase there are no 256mb ones cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Tea 0 Posted December 31, 2005 There are not much AGP cards with 256 MB, and they are much more expensive. I`ve seen cards that costs 150 € with 128 MB, and 250 € with 256 MB. I have also found cards, that have 256 MB , but have slower GPU and RAM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
456820 0 Posted December 31, 2005 well 250(Damn doesnt seem to be a euros sign on this keyboard) well anyway 25oeuros in pounds says its about 170 and the other card was 220 in pounds thats a lot cheaper So maybe a link please Also if i had a graphics card for an AGP if i were to later update to PCI-E would i still be able to use the AGP card or would it become useless with that motherboard ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Tea 0 Posted December 31, 2005 No, AGP is not compatible with PCI E. When you buy an AGP card now, there is no way you can use it, after upgrading to an PCI E mainboard. Maybe you should think about building an new PC. Edit: All i`ve found are tons of PCI E cards with 256 MB, and AGP cards with 256 MB but older GPU type. I don`t make much sense to buy an older card only for it`s bigger Ram. Btw. Troubleshooting is for OFP related problems only. Next time use the "OFFTOPIC" thread please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echo1 0 Posted January 2, 2006 The problem is also that because you have an older motherboard, it probably is an AGP 4X motherboard, wheras current cards are 8X, thus youll loose some speed. What CPU do you have? EDIT: Remember - OFP is mainly a CPU and RAM game. It will run perfectly on anything from a GeForce 4 and up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uberkayser 0 Posted January 2, 2006 If your looking for a good AGP card to run all the latest games at decent settings think about a GeForce 6800 GS which has just been released as AGP version...this card falls midway in performance between the 6800 vanilla and the 6800 GT but apparently is an overclocking beast (download the "coolbits" overclocking program for chimp-easy overclocking).Benchmarks for the GS are very respectable and it seems to be the current card of choice for those looking for performance on a budget(Å150-Å175)..have a look on overclock.net forums for more info. about it.It seems theres no plans for nvidia to release the 7800 GT on AGP.At moment i have the 6600GT AGP overclocked to the max. with a zalman cooling fan added and while its been a good card im starting to get narked that i got to play everything on medium settings with no AA or AF to keep good fps.Building a new system on PCI-E and the last component still to get is the gfx card...only after much research and thinking have i decided to go with the 7800 GT over the 6800 GS but it was close.....(check some forums too...overclockers uk forums,overclock.net and overclock.co.uk good advice and info. and good links to the cheapest components for the U.K.) g'luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
456820 0 Posted January 3, 2006 hey i was actually just looking to get a Geforce 6800 GT with 256mb its roughly the same price as the one from the first post Im just needing to check if it will definately work on my comp About my computer right now im not sure i just copy down what my flashpoint preferences tell me i think its right but it may not be AMD 1806.2 Mhz 768Mb RAM Geforce 2 MX i have 2.2 Ghz Its not a bad computer i dont think all games run fine on it some a little slow but i would love a graphics card which would run DXDLL and Brothers in Arms one of the main reasons why im getting a new one. The computer is just bits out of old computers weve had and some new parts from my cousin for cheaper since he works for a computer company he can get discount prices but it depends what it is. Anyway what do you think about a Geforce 6800 but as uberkayser recomended the GS version im thinking of the GT version which is slightly more expensive. And one last thing whats overclocking ive heard it alot whilst looking for graphics cards but dont know the meaning ? Thanks for your help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted January 3, 2006 I wouldnt put anything above a 9800 or a plain 6600 AGP card there although you specs are not very clear, dxdll reflections dont work well with new graphics drivers anyway and a 9800pro or XT might be more compatible with your PC and deliver decent performance and reliability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Schweitzer 10 Posted January 3, 2006 Well for OFP a 9800Pro is more than enough! I was able to play most modern games at high settings with this old card. If you think about buying a 7800 then be informed that might have troubles running OFP. I do have these problems but the reason could also be due to the fact that I use a X2 processor! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
456820 0 Posted January 4, 2006 well ive been looking some more and found http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=19357 that and another http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=19720 obdviously the second is better since it costs more and its slightly upgraded form the first but if i want a card to play OFP well on decent settings and also want to play all other modern games with a decent setting which of those cards are for me i dont mind paying alot aslong as im getting a good deal and it will suit my needs Im not to bothered what i get since anything can beat my poor Geforce 2. Oh would those cards also support DXDLL since i cant use it on my card now and all pictures look great using it and everyone says its great and it looks it so i would love to be able to try it out. thanks guys Oh and my price limit is roughly 250Å but i would prefer to pay a bit less unless im getting a very good deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted January 4, 2006 The 6600GT is a hard card to recomend, its a great bang for buck if you get it running but the amount of people having problems with it is scary to say the least, i have the 128 one and love it but i have to use modded drivers for it to really love OPF instead of crashing and running like shiat. It is infamous for being power hungry and hot and you might need to buy a quality PSU for it, the words "20amps on the 12V rail" are carved in my brain lol. It also doesnt seem to be very friendly with older mobos and some chipsets, if you can test it before purchase i would recomend it but otherwise i wouldnt . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uberkayser 0 Posted January 4, 2006 Woah!!....that 6800 gt is WAY overpriced by at LEAST Å50(you can buy a 7800 gt for Å201incl. vat).Heres some links to cards you may want to consider. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/6800_Series.html and http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/6600AGP_Series.html and http://overclock.co.uk/customer/product.php?productid=19003 and http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/ your system specs. are very similair to my older pc,same processor,1GB of RAM,300watt psu with the 128mb 6600gt...i could run new games np..brothers in arms ran great,regular Flashpoint with DXDLL ran great too(40+fps), even mods such as Y2K3 ran fine(30-35 fps) all with decent settings,not maxed out but all medium.Id agree with previous posters that buying a top of the range card would be a bit of a waste of money as these really need a good power supply(absolute mininmum 400w) and an ok processor so you can max. everything out and see what youve paid your money for.It seems also be a common belief that paying extra for a 256mb card is also false economy...cash paid for performance gained leaves you short...,again unless youve got top of the range components right through and want a couple of hundred points added to your 3Dmark 2005 score...in practical use(games) 128mb is fine.If i was you(lol) id look for the 6600GT 128mb as definitely meeting the requirements you said and with cash id saved get your RAM bumped up to 1GB(more RAM always good for OFP)...if i WANTED to spend more cash so i could ramp up my settings a bit more go for the 6800 gs(but make sure your power supply unit can handle it)....i reckon anything higher than that and you not going to see where your cash has gone.The ATI 9800 pro is still a good card but the 6600GT totally chews it out in all benchmarks and at around Å100 its better bang for buck.As for overclocking...you can tinker with your graphics card(as well as your processor,motherboard and RAM) to make their performance increase(e.g. i got the same processor as you running at 2.1 ghz instead of 1.83) which is often where which brand of card you would go for is a factor i.e. Leadtek ,XFX,eVGA,Xpertvision,some makes are supposedly better overclockers than others because they have better cooling or supposedly better cores and/or RAM chips...overclocking nvidia cards is easy using the "coolbits" programme which does it automatically while keeping the overclock within a safe limit...going further than that usually requires you adding bigger cooling fans/systems to components and being VERY careful.Good luck...prices for stuff varies crazily,its easy to get ripped off just by not searching thoroughly but i reckon those links will be the cheapest for UK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
456820 0 Posted January 4, 2006 hey thanks for the sites ill take a look threw them but http:www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/products/a850xly0zlp0s0n0m0 that link gives me a 404 not found cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uberkayser 0 Posted January 4, 2006 Havin said all that^^ maybe think about the future(OFP2/ArmAssault) and what they gonna need to run good?Å250 could get you started on putting together a new rig or searching like crazy for a used Athlon 64 or P4 PCI-Express system maybe with a rubbish graphics card but bearing in mind that your equivalent PCI-E cards are generally Å20-30 or more cheaper than AGP ones and the cards we on about just now arent top of the range and are going to only go down in price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites