syphboy 0 Posted October 16, 2005 (edited) I've released v1.0 of my Heckler & Koch UMP pack. Download UMP .45 UMP .45 SD with Aimpoint UMP 9 UMP 9 SD with Aimpoint Units courtesy of BAS's Ranger & Delta pack. There are two different types of optics (Iron sight & Aimpoint). ******Each version has its pros and cons (UMP 45 is less accurate but the heavier bullet does more damage. ******UMP 9 is more accurate but less deadly). ******I've delibrately tried to keep the face count low (750/1100 on the standard/suppressed) to make it friendlier with low-end systems like mine. ******Textures 100% made by me, which is why they are so basic (read 'crap' ). ******Let me know what you all think. -Syphboy. Edited October 3, 2011 by W0lle Added working link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PSYCHOSIM 0 Posted October 16, 2005 Big thumbs up fella, another quality addon.....(and if i'm not mistaken, is this the first UMP9 in OFP?). Off to fill some enemys with hot molten lead now! Â Â Only question is, What next? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LennyD 0 Posted October 16, 2005 Very, very nice indeed You've IMO got the accuracy and precision right. It's quite less accurate than the MP5 (due to a different mechanism). I'm not sure about rpm's and damage thought. Where did you get the data on this from? And what are the settings (compared to the BI-MP5)? The sound is great. I had a go at one of these my self. There a shock if you are used to MP2s (UZI) or MP5s...SMGs are typically heavy. This baby is as light as a sponge. For anyone interested i've linkt the manual HK Defence UMP EDIT: Quote[/b] ]Only question is, What next? What about a G11...you seem to be a HK-Fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PSYCHOSIM 0 Posted October 16, 2005 Just given this baby a quick trial and it appears to be another hit for Syphboy! One small bug found, but one that can be easily fixed I'd think, when using the aimpoint optic on the SD version, the centre of the optic, the actual aimpoint is not textured I believe! There appears to be a white square in place of the red dot! Other than that I don't see any faults.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LennyD 0 Posted October 16, 2005 One small bug found, but one that can be easily fixed I'd think, when using the aimpoint optic on the SD version, the centre of the optic, the actual aimpoint is not textured I believe! There appears to be a white square in place of the red dot! Yep...just noticed that to....when fixing this, is it possible to make a non-sd version with aimpoint? I now requests are "censored"....but you would make me really happy Also you could screw down the accuracy on the SD's a little bit. Gee...i know... i always have something to moan about Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin_BM 0 Posted October 16, 2005 Nice pack, but why you used jpg textures ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stgn 39 Posted October 16, 2005 Nice addon. Thev textures are too dark I think. STGN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBR_ONIX 0 Posted October 16, 2005 Because of the gamma correction in OFP, I'm almost certain it'll look brighter in game Anyway, looks nice - Ben Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LennyD 0 Posted October 16, 2005 Jep...think it's close to reallife...to a bran-sparkling new one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echo1 0 Posted October 16, 2005 Top class work, just one thing, UMPs have a double round burst, but yours dont. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LennyD 0 Posted October 16, 2005 Top class work, just one thing, UMPs have a double round burst, but yours dont. Depends on which version you buy. The 9mm i've shoot hat only a simple SEF-Fireinggroup (Safe-Single-Fullauto). But you're right with the 45s...they tend to have the 2rd-burst.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackScorpion 0 Posted October 16, 2005 I'm not sure of this but don't the magazines, atleast the straight ones, only have the see-through part on the left side, and the right side is all non-see-through? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LennyD 0 Posted October 16, 2005 I'm not sure of this but don't the magazines, atleast the straight ones, only have the see-through part on the left side, and the right side is all non-see-through? mmmm....if you look at HK - Pro you seem to be right. To be honest...i can't remember. I was totaly sparked up and going bananas. But as long as even the smallest gunfirm in china makes costum parts for the civ. HK-guns....who cares. Maybe the mags have been bought oversees. EDIT on the triggergroups: There are 4 versions available by HK: - Singel Fire only - 0-1-2 (safe-single-2rd burst) - standard (as pointed out before the SEF) - 2rdBurst Triggergroup (SEF + 2rd burst -> all in one) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clausewitz 1 Posted October 17, 2005 Really good job! It's like christmas... every day a new gift... Do you plan to recreate the early HK Pack by Lost Brothers? For this case, my personal favourite: HK G3 series. Not one single model out there which fits modern OFP standards. *hint* Again: great work, thanx! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LennyD 0 Posted October 17, 2005 For this case, my personal favourite: HK G3 series. Not one single model out there which fits modern OFP standards. I'm rather a freak to realisim than to grafik....so my tip is the AK4 (G3-clone) with Aimpoint ( !!! ) from the new SFP4 Have a look...it's great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syphboy 0 Posted October 17, 2005 Wow! Â I'm surprised at the amount on interest this has attracted. Â Thanks for the attention guys. I'll start from the top: I'm not sure about rpm's and damage thought.Where did you get the data on this from? And what are the settings (compared to the BI-MP5)? I have a confession to make. Â Most of the current settings in the config.cpp file are absolute crap. Â The UMP basically inherits most of its attributes from BIS's HK, with a scant few changes: Â I tweaked the accuracy so that the 9 is more accurate than the 45, though both are considerably less accurate than the HK. Â I also made a few recoils which were slightly tougher than the HK's 'rifflesilenced'. Â I was going to change the RPM from 800 to 600 but I forgot. Â And I've just noticed that the initspeed is way too high - 500! Â That'll have to come back down to 300 to be more realistic. Â They're going to be changes #1 & #2 in v1.1. One small bug found, but one that can be easily fixed I'd think, when using the aimpoint optic on the SD version, the centre of the optic, the actual aimpoint is not textured I believe! There appears to be a white square in place of the red dot! Oh man! Â That's such a nice texture too! Â It's a little red dot, translucent enough to make out the details of a man's head. Â I orignally made the Aimpoint optic for an FN P90 addon (that's probably next on the list to be finished) and bugger me, I forgot to change texture path for that face! Â Change #3. is it possible to make a non-sd version with aimpoint? Yeah, yeah, yeah! Â Â Do you know how much work that is?! Â Change #4. Also you could screw down the accuracy on the SD's a little bit. Sorry, I don't understand. Â Do you want the SD version more accurate, or less accurate? Â Personally, I thought suppressing pistol rounds made the recoil more manageable, and thus more accurate. Â But I could be wrong. Nice pack, but why you used jpg textures ? Because I was to lazy to convert them to PAA format. Â Change #5. Thev textures are too dark I think. They show up a bit lighter in-game. Â Also a bit greener for some reason. Â UMPs have a double round burst, but yours dont. LennyD's already answered this sufficiently. Â I might change the fire modes but it would involve some serious texture changes. Â I'll have to think about it. I'm not sure of this but don't the magazines, atleast the straight ones, only have the see-through part on the left side, and the right side is all non-see-through? Man, you guys know way too much about guns! Â Change #6. Do you plan to recreate the early HK Pack by Lost Brothers? Oh God, no! Â I love those packs. Â My stuff is nowhere near as good as that! Â How many years have they been out? Â And they still rock! As for what I'm up to next, some guys asked me to make them a Wist P94 (Yeah, I had to look it up too! so I'd better finish that before they start sending me rude letters! Thanks again for the encouragement, guys. -Syphboy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LennyD 0 Posted October 17, 2005 is it possible to make a non-sd version with aimpoint? Yeah, yeah, yeah! Do you know how much work that is?! Change #4. Also you could screw down the accuracy on the SD's a little bit. Sorry, I don't understand. Do you want the SD version more accurate, or less accurate? Personally, I thought suppressing pistol rounds made the recoil more manageable, and thus more accurate. But I could be wrong. #1: Just an idea ..... #2:Well it depends on what type of ammo is used. But i generally think that a supressed gun is less accurate because you use subsonic-ammo (slower and a little less stable in flight). There are lots of pros and cons of "slenceres"...but you are right with your remark... suppressors reduce felt recoil far better than most compensators or muzzle breaks. In fact, a silencer is nothing more than a better muzzle break. But IMO the accuracy suffers ( !!! with the mentioned ammo !!! ). But it's up to you really...if we presume they use normal ammo...its fine Please leave the triggergroups as they are...the 2 burst mode is nice and handy in reallife. But not really in OFP. And as long as this is the "special feature" HK is only doing for the us-moaners-and-groaners...leave it more "international" Really looking forward to your next release...as usual, great stuff Edit: Have a look and compare with and without slencer...you can see the difference in gunmovement (nonsubsonic ammo...still rather noisy) -> Video.wmv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PSYCHOSIM 0 Posted October 17, 2005 wow, all those changes, well its something to look forward to.... Keep up the great work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LennyD 0 Posted October 17, 2005 I'm not sure of this but don't the magazines, atleast the straight ones, only have the see-through part on the left side, and the right side is all non-see-through? Man, you guys know way too much about guns! Change #6. Don't do more work than needed You can get EVERYTHING for HK's...righthandside clear plastic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 20, 2005 Awesome work, well done syf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king homer 1 Posted October 20, 2005 I'm not sure of this but don't the magazines, atleast the straight ones, only have the see-through part on the left side, and the right side is all non-see-through? mmmm....if you look at HK - Pro you seem to be right. To be honest...i can't remember. I was totaly sparked up and going bananas. But as long as even the smallest gunfirm in china makes costum parts for the civ. HK-guns....who cares. Maybe the mags have been bought oversees. EDIT on the triggergroups: There are 4 versions available by HK: - Singel Fire only - 0-1-2 (safe-single-2rd burst) - standard (as pointed out before the SEF) - 2rdBurst Triggergroup (SEF + 2rd burst -> all in one) All UMP versions (9mm/.40/.45) can be equipped with an optional 2-round-burst triggeroup. As standard the UMP features a S-E-F triggeroup, like the MP5-N, with righ/left handed handgrip. The UMP can neither use a SF (Single Fire) triggergroup nor a 0-1-2 triggergroup. I think it's a good idea adding a 2-round burst to the UMP, as Jackal did with his UMP. It's good for CQB, 2 rounds have better stopping power than 1 round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syphboy 0 Posted October 28, 2005 Hi guys. Â Version 1.1 is now available here. Â Here's some pics of a couple of the new versions: UMP-9 Suppressed UMP .45 with Aimpoint From the readme file: Quote[/b] ]Changes:-Added a standard version with Aimpoint and a suppressed version without Aimpoint for both calibres. Â The pack now looks like this: Units: West -> SYF-Men -> Black Op (HK UMP) West -> SYF-Men -> Black Op (HK UMP Aimpoint) West -> SYF-Men -> Black Op (HK UMP SD) West -> SYF-Men -> Black Op (HK UMP SD Aimpoint) West -> SYF-Men -> Black Op (HK UMP-9) West -> SYF-Men -> Black Op (HK UMP-9 Aimpoint) West -> SYF-Men -> Black Op (HK UMP-9 SD) West -> SYF-Men -> Black Op (HK UMP-9 SD Aimpoint) Weapons: syfump syfumpa syfumpsd syfumpsda syfump9 syfump9a syfump9sd syfump9sda -Fixed red dot texture on aimpoint optic and centred iron sight optic. -Tweaked bullet velocity, firing speed and recoils in config.cpp -Created custom weapon and magazine inventory pics. Enjoy! -Syphboy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PSYCHOSIM 0 Posted October 29, 2005 Cool, just need mirrors! Much respect.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 29, 2005 I would mirror, but rapidshare is busy Edit: Scratch that - Mirror courtesy of www.shadders.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites