KRISS of Death

[Gordy 0]

Another Idiotic design? Decide for yourselves.

Quote[/b] ]KRISS of Death: Unconventional and Deadly .45 ACP Subgun Makes It's Debut

Posted on Tuesday, September 06 @ 08:56:01 PDT by davidc

by David Crane

david@defensereview.com

What do you get when you cross a car wash spray nozzle with a Thompson submachine gun? No, it's not a joke. It's a new and rather unconventional (not to mention, cool) .45-caliber (.45 ACP) subgun that attenuates/mitigates felt recoil and muzzle rise/climb--thus increasing controllability--on full-auto by putting the bore axis at or slightly below the centerline of the shooter's fist and forearm and combining that ergonomic aspect with a mechanical recoil attenuation/mitigation system. It's called the KRISS Super V Sub-machine gun, and it's brought to you by the good folks at Transformational Defense Industries (TDI), headquartered in Washington, D.C. That's more than a little ironic. Think about it--a select-fire (full-auto capable) small arm being developed in D.C., one of the most anti-legal-firearms-ownership/anti-Second Amendment cities in the country. Most likely, TDI's manufacturing facility is located outside the District (in an actual state, somewhere), and it would seem logical that their testing facility would be located somewhere in Virginia. We'll look into it.

TDI claims that in addition to reducing felt recoil and muzzle rise on full-auto, the KRISS's unique design...

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[EiZei 0]

More moving parts and delicate electronics.. yet another useless clob of metal on the battlefield?

[Espectro (DayZ) 0]

More moving parts and delicate electronics.. yet another useless clob of metal on the battlefield?

Maybe its designed for streetfights in newyork? :/

[Bordoy 0]

Looks like something Han Solo would use.

Not exactly a battlefield weapon either as said above. Like espectro says, maybe they are being shipped to Harlem.

[Cpt. FrostBite 0]

More moving parts and delicate electronics.. yet another useless clob of metal on the battlefield?

eh, it's supposed to have LESS moving parts.

I don't like it either, though. It sounds like a nice idea, reducing the felt recoil and barrel-jumping. But it looks silly and doesn't really look like a sturdy weapon.

It's like a pistol with a buttstock. More a collecters item to be used on the range than a weapon of war of you ask me.

[Apollo 0]

Meh ,i saw some article recently on a fully automatic railgun being in the works ,that loos way more impressive to me than this gun.

Immagine a MG that has no recoil at all ,no mussle flash ,no sound even as it fire's.

[EiZei 0]

Immagine a MG that has no recoil at all ,no mussle flash ,no sound even as it fire's.

And a backpack full of car batteries.

[Bordoy 0]

Immagine a MG that has no recoil at all ,no mussle flash ,no sound even as it fire's.

And a backpack full of car batteries.

Is true though, probs be the size of an OICW x5 or something. lol

[Apollo 0]

Immagine a MG that has no recoil at all ,no mussle flash ,no sound even as it fire's.

And a backpack full of car batteries.

Is true though, probs be the size of an OICW x5 or something. lol

Mount it on a car or tank ,no biggy...

Even then ,there was a time that computers were the size of an appartment block to.

Im no millitary expert though ,i guess there will be always plenty of people here that will know better...

[shinRaiden 0]

Fundamentally logically flawed.

Defensive operations such as VIP escort don't require target engagement, they only need cover for an escape. It's the overt backup teams that are to engage, allowing the covert primary teams to evacuate. Seriously, where do you need concealable compact automatic capability? Covert VIP escort. The only other market would be clandestine insertion, and thats logically incompatible with a highly unique and traceable weapon. An UZI or even a MAC-10 gives you a lot of diplomatic deniability, but if you break out a weapon that's fresh out of the labs and isn't even on retail, things get suspicious real fast. So the very nature of the intended markets rules out this sort of weapon. Overt response teams are already much more heavily armed than what the KRISS is scalable to.

On the other hand...

The design of a suspended weapon is quite interesting, and merits further investigation. One way to describe is by turning a pistol upside down. By doing that it's much more physiologically easy to lock a hold on it, since you're working against the arm rotation instead of with it. It would be interesting to see if the principle is scalable to larger rifles and crew served weapons, in hanging them from top-mounted attach points instead of resting them on bottom mounted attach points.

[Major Fubar 0]

Anyone else think we're going to see this thing popping up in a lot of upcoming sci-fi and near-future action movies?

Looks like something Han Solo would use.

I think Han preferred something low tech, like a Mauser pistol