DefRev Exlusive: FN SCAR Update

[Gordy 0]

Quote[/b] ]Below are scanned photos of a NAVSEA/Naval Surface Warfare Center-Crane Division (NSWC-Crane Division) Tri-Fold/Fact Sheet on the Special Operations Forces Combat Assault Rifle (SCAR) family designed and developed (and manufactured and marketed) by FN Herstal/FNH USA. Both the 5.56x45mm FN SCAR-Light (FN SCAR-L) and 7.62x51mm FN SCAR-Heavy (FN SCAR-H) are covered in the document. Below these are photos of FN Herstal's/FNH USA's company tri-fold/fact sheet on their SCAR variants, titled "SCAR: [s.O.F. Combat Assault Rifle]. Click on photos below to view them full-size.

Quote[/b] ]In the meantime, however, we're providing our readers with...

scanned photos of the FN SCAR literature we picked up at the FNH USA booth at SOF Week. Notice that the NAVSEA/NSWC-Crane document states that the FN SCAR weapons utilize a short-stroke gas piston system for their operation, and that rate of Fire (ROF) is 550-600 RPM (Rounds-Per-Minute) for both weapons (SCAR-L and SCAR-H). They also provide a sneak peek at the new FN SCAR quick-attach/detach Enhanced Grenade Launcher Module (EGLM).

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[Cpt. FrostBite 0]

Thanks for the info!!

Interesting to see that the design of the stock has changed a bit. The SCAR is an interesting development moving away from the troubled XM-8.

I like the weapon. It's made by FN and those guys make good stuff. I find the design of the grandelauncher very nice, with the mag sticking trough it. The position of the launcher-trigger allows you to fire it without moving your hand.

[stgn 39]

Thanks for the info!!

Interesting to see that the design of the stock has changed a bit. The SCAR is an interesting development moving away from the troubled XM-8.

I like the weapon. It's made by FN and those guys make good stuff. I find the design of the grandelauncher very nice, with the mag sticking trough it. The position of the launcher-trigger allows you to fire it without moving your hand.

Year and towards the AR15

About the granadeluncher while it seems smart for the granade luncher it might be problematic for the rifle because it might be harder to feed the weapon, the mag might get stuck(not fall out) when you release it(this has been expirenced with the M16 in sandy envoirments), you can not use c-mags, there is less space to grab the mag, speed reloads as you can do on a M4(the SCAR is prity close to the Ar15 on this point) cant be done, dirt might get easier in to the chamber.

A interesting thing is would this be able to mount on a M4?

STGN

[Ares1978 0]

About the granadeluncher while it seems smart for the granade luncher it might be problematic for the rifle because it might be harder to feed the weapon, the mag might get stuck(not fall out) when you release it(this has been expirenced with the M16 in sandy envoirments), you can not use c-mags, there is less space to grab the mag, speed reloads as you can do on a M4(the SCAR is prity close to the Ar15 on this point) cant be done, dirt might get easier in to the chamber.

Pretty much what I was thinking.

Although, based on what I've read about the C-mag, it's a pain in the ass anyway. Not to mention how silly it would be to use it and a grenade launcher on the same rifle.

[Rikki Tikki Tavi 0]

Bah, all that matters is that it looks good!

But really, as an FN fan, I've been glad to see this, hope it's used.

[Cpt. FrostBite 0]

The c-mag is a failure anyway, so I don't really think that they'll use it much. And a grenadelauncher + C-mag is only for the movies.

I'm sure that the design is such that the mag will still drop when the magrelease it touched. Remember that this weapon was designed for SOF's use, so I'm sure that all their demands have been met (including mag-release, quick load ect).

For the quick-reload you need to pull the mag out just a bit more, but that's really not much. You can still clip the mag together, since it doens't look like the grandelaucher is thicker than the rest of the mag-port.

[SFWanabe 0]

I still prefer the M-16 even though it has it's faults.

[stgn 39]

The c-mag is a failure anyway, so I don't really think that they'll use it much. And a grenadelauncher + C-mag is only for the movies.

I'm sure that the design is such that the mag will still drop when the magrelease it touched. Remember that this weapon was designed for SOF's use, so I'm sure that all their demands have been met (including mag-release, quick load ect).

For the quick-reload you need to pull the mag out just a bit more, but that's really not much. You can still clip the mag together, since it doens't look like the grandelaucher is thicker than the rest of the mag-port.

Well I know that C-mag is very unrelaiable but if they get it too work it has its pros over a 30 round mag in some situations and I have heard that relaiable 60 rounds mags Using a comparable design is beeing made and if you run out of 30 rounds mags in a fire fight and sombody hands you a high capasity mag you have to start removing the granade luncher too shoot.

snorr you can do better than that, offcause the mag will fall free when you go to the firring range and shoot in combat murphy rules. Plus this is not final it is not even sure this weapon will ever go in to service this is just a prototype.

For quick reload i was thinking when you grab the mag so when you insert it in the weapon you thomb automaticly hits the bolt release. Besides this is not realy 100% ergonomicly compatible reloades on this weapon with and with out the granadeluncher somthing that is prity important when you rely on "muscle memory"(not the right word here) as you hear SF does as they are trained to shoot and act faster than they think.

STGN

[Ares1978 0]

Not likely that those pros will outweigh the cons. At least not in the near future.

[stgn 39]

I still prefer the M-16 even though it has it's faults.

 

No sory but a standard M16 or M4 is just not good enough to compete with a gun like the FN SCAR the M16 might beat out G36 and XM8 but that mainly on ergonomics and speed of action but as fare as I can see the SCAR is prity close to the M16 on this point. What i want to see is a gas piston M4 like the LW model or the HK416(mainly because it comes in a 7.62 version).

STGN

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@Ares1978

The main problem with the c-mag is that it jams a lot. IF it didn't it would be an excelent compliment to the 30 round mag.

STGN

ps made a double post so I just edited it.

[Ares1978 0]

@Ares1978

The main problem with the c-mag is that it jams a lot. IF it didn't it would be an excelent compliment to the 30 round mag.

STGN

ps made a double post so I just edited it.

Sure, it's the main problem, but it's also bulky and heavy. And they have had well over a decade to erase the reliability problems.

[EiZei 0]

I can already imagine what it will be when american soldiers finally get full-auto instead of burst/single only AND c-mags at the same time.. the horror.