Vechicles moving out of the building

[Gedis 0]

Hello,

i'm creating mission about desert storm...

and i want that all vechicles(tanks, ammo, fuel and repair trucks) move from the Hanger, whithout destroying it by collisions... how to do that and which method to use(waypoints, trigers or commands in init field)?

Some screens to show what i mean...

http://free2.angeltowns.com/gds/ofpr/mission1.jpg

http://free2.angeltowns.com/gds/ofpr/mission3.jpg

http://free2.angeltowns.com/gds/ofpr/mission4.jpg

http://free2.angeltowns.com/gds/ofpr/mission5.jpg

I'm using Sig's T-72 pack, RHS T-55 and crew packs, Y2K3 mod, Fire possitions and Mapfact stuff

[Gedis 0]

oh, by the way... another question...

How to do that soldiers/crew on the alarm ran to these covered tanks, get in without engine start and wait until they are allowed to move one by one out of the building?

Please, help me...

[Kin Hil 0]

What are tanks doing in an airport hangar?!?

What map are you using for Iraq?

Sorry I have nothing but questions and can't help you!

[Gedis 0]

they are hidden from cualition satelites in the airport hangers of Nogova... ;)

[Kin Hil 0]

All the hangars were bombed to prevent exactly that.

The reason I don't like replaying the Gulf Wars in OFP.. too one sided. American forces took out Iraqi forces without any real fights. So if you play Iraqis its too hard, if you play Americans its too easy.

Thats why I like guerrilla missions... like Chechnya, or perhaps when there is an Iraq island made... the current insurgency there.

Anywho, I don't think you can fix that. But maybe make the tanks expert so they don't crash into crap, and set them on safe..maybe that'll work, but I'm guessing.

[Gedis 0]

well, there were serious battles against US...

Iraqi republican guard battalion was even droven to behind enemy lines, so they attacked from flanks... and in that battle were destroyed or heavily damaged 7 abramses, though in that brigade there were no T-72, only t-55 maybe even t-62

well, i don't remember exactly what are the story of this, but it was and is worth my attention...

well, tanks are in hangers because i couldn't better hidding place for lots of vechicles, it's fictional... but idea is that, abrams(M1 was in great number in 1991, it could also be M1A1, but in 1991 there were only ~60) are moving towards this airbase to destroy all the guarding possitions and to take it to cualition side, while abrams are busy fireing at T-55 in fireing possitions, whole hidding tanks comes out from their hidding places and kicks abrams asses

of course after that those iraqi vechicles escapes from that airport for fiting in Operation Iraq Freedom...

[Kin Hil 0]

If you like conventional warfare in your OFP, sure... but the only way I'd ever do that is a fictional war between the US and China over Taiwan.. or one between two or more third world countries. It just doesn't seem fair to pit US against Iraqi military, and too unrealistic for the Iraqi military to win.

[Gedis 0]

well, ofcourse iraqi had almost no chance against that great cualition, but cualition was afraid of iraqi republican guard...

if it's hard so you need fight harder, my tactics against M1 with iraqi T-72 M1A1 is too strong for one T-72...

[mattxr 9]

instead of using nogova why dont use the new afganistan with nogova textures.. more desert to play with then

[Gedis 0]

i don't want that there were so much mountains...

http://www.military-art.com/images/dhm_1194.jpg

http://www.checkpoint-online.ch/CheckPo....que.jpg

Tavalkan's republican guard division battle

Tawakalna english source

Tawakalna english source 2

this real story is in russian language

sorry, i forgot that this division had T-72 tanks and made mistake, 5 Abrams and ė Bradleys were destroyed; 30 crew members were heavily wounded...

i found very interesting, coockie for my hart, unconfermed information about that battle:

Russian Bear wrote:

this information is available to anybody, who is willing to do some independent research on tank battles of the gulf war 1.

and yes, the statement you cited above is pretty much official propaganda, that does not reflect the reality.

again, please do some research on your own. the Iraqi republican guard division "Tavalkan" (spelling ?) had clashed with a US tank division in february 1991 at Basra, and stopped the anti-Iraqi coalition from advancing, and deprived them from developing plans for assaulting Bagdad. to be precise, exactly 72 Abrams tanks were knocked out.

and please take notice, that if US officials dont say that on CNN, it doesnt mean that it didnt take place... US military is known to be notoriuos in keeping a lot of secrets from the public, as we all know ;).

           

if it's true, than mine most hateable tank(Abrams for cheats used on it, like DU rounds and DU armor) was realy not so good! yehaa... but it's not confermed info...  

[HuNtA 0]

coalition, not cualition.

I gotta say, I concur with everyone thus far. War is like a seesaw. The first gulf war would be like a girl getting on 1 side.... and rick waller on the other

What U need is something like america V china..that would be a bit more evenly matched (fat capitalist pig on 1 side.... fat communist dictator on the other)

[Gedis 0]

em... there are no missions to play in Operation Desert Storm, that should be changed...

want to play Tawalkans last fight, Bravo two Zero...

so which method i should use, waypoints, triggers or init line commands?!?!

[WindWalker 0]

The real War to be is the European Union, Russia, and the Arabs against the Chineese Invasion of Africa for its Natural resources. The USA will be sidelined in this War. Tiwan issue is only a Red herring (LOL) for Chineese arms build up prior to the above mentioned War. Classic Chineese diversion of attention in one direction while preparing to move in another. Therefore if you want to reherse the next great war. Pit The Europeans & MiddleEastern against the Chineese. Keep up the retoric about the Fat Capitalistic Americans. it helps their mis-direction on intentions. When the Bovine Droppings hits the Fan, Hopefully the USA will follow the Worlds example set in the last Gulf War and Stand-Down.

Makes great use of the French Point Addons, Swis Mod, Iraqui and German Units against Tiwans Roc Mod OPFOR.

[mr reality 0]

Back on topic guys please...It is afterall his mission

@ Gedis

I've had similar problems with vehicle movement and i used more waypoints nearer together set on safe and limited. But as we all know the game engine can be a little pig headed

[WindWalker 0]

Right back to topic.

I get the ID TAG of the object (hanger) --then with IGORS RelPosition script for direction of the hanger i use a get pos set pos routine for the Tank (vehicle) to the ID center with direction and had the driver go to a waypoint straight out of the hangar. using a trigger when the 1st tank exits then the next tank is setpos and follows the 1st. etc. The tanks can be anywhere out of sight and hearing till the script is called in what ever manner you choose. Would include a sample but am at work taking lunch break and all that info is at home. Really is pretty simple. Kinda like having 400 soldiers leaving an outhouse one at a time

[Gedis 0]

ideas and help are welcome!

WindWalker, i'm waiting on your new reply for bigger explanation how to do that...

[ag_smith 0]

Again that crap about mighty Ruskie tanks defeating Abrams? I'm under impression that you've watched the former Iraqi minister of propaganda little bit too many times.

5 Abrams and ?? Bradleys were destroyed; 30 crew members were heavily wounded...

You forgot to add: from a friendly fire... just read those articles.

and please take notice, that if US officials dont say that on CNN, it doesnt mean that it didnt take place... US military is known to be notoriuos in keeping a lot of secrets from the public, as we all know ;).

Oh, yes... we all know about the UFO, Area 51, lit'l green men, etc

[Gedis 0]

well, last words are not mine and i don't say that it's true...

secondly, about that friendly fire, I don't think that all 5 were destroyed by it, when iraqi Tawakalna division artilery was fireing at will and all 220 T-72 could miss one abrams.

Futhermore, don't judge T-72 just because it could not be so good in Operation Desert Storm...

Facts:

T-72 was almost 20 older than abrams(1973 year of build), iraqi first T-72 got in 1978-1979.

T-72 couldn't destroy abrams not because his canon was not powerful enough, not because crew were bad trained, but because targeting system were not new, laser that counts exact range to target couldn't recognize new coalition vechicles(Abrams, Bradley and etc.) and it gives bad range so the rounds couldn't hit...

But don't forget that iraqi T-72 was an export version, this also means alot...

I don't understand why iraqi didn't upgrade T-72M1 to T-72 at least B(new targeting systems, era armor and etc.), it was possible...

I'm creating mission just because to make history little bit changed, what if...

and please, go back to topic!

[ag_smith 0]

Ok, got your points.

Just don't put too much trust into T-72 based series. Even the latest T-90M derivates the major T-72 design problems.

Btw, Abrams is not a new tank, too. Design began in 1973 and it was introduced in 1980.

Alright, enough of this offtopic.

[WindWalker 0]

Gedis:

I thought that the really great scripters on this forum were a bunch of arrogant, egotistical small minded pricks. When i or others would ask for help they would point us in the direction of OPEC script files. Well i had that reversed! I was the arrogant, egotistical small minded prick. I expected some one to give me the answer. Glad to this day they did NOT!

To solve your script problem:

Check out CamCreate vehicle.

Check out RelPosition (Search for IGOR on OFPEC)

or

give leader a way point and set formation to column

name your vehicles tank1 setfuel = 0 (that way the waypoint is kept with the group even though they cant move.)

(etc etc)

then study the RelPosition sample of Igor

once you grasp this you will admire and thank Igor. it opens a whole new world of OFP possibilitys.

then at the spawn point (if you already have the vech on the map) create trigger to an sqs file that sets vehicle1 fuel to 1. spawns the leaders vech, ~4 seconds then sets vech2 fuel to 1 and spawns etc ect. and off they go.

Yes a lot of steps are missing here but thats the fun of Creating Mission and SQS files.

" If something is worth doing, it's worth doing wrong untill you get it right."

I have spent months trying to get a script to function properly only to find it will not work in MPMissions.. But that's another story

[Gedis 0]

so greate searcher couldn't find the script, but i saw Igor Drukov... i searched in editing, tutorials and scripts checked all pages, but couldn't find it(RelPosition script)

well, always i find needed info for any body, now "that" anybody needs to find me a script, please help me!

[WindWalker 0]

Gedis:

I will try to remember when i get home to email you a simple mission using the relPosition script with the readme inclosed.

ment to do it last evening but altzhimers struck me. LOL

Hell I am 63 and allowed to forget !

[Wadmann 0]

The "RelPos Coord" is a function, not a script.

You can get it here.

Wadmann

[agent556 5]

now if you want something with less scripting, you can always have individual T-72 units in a hangar (not grouped), then have them all waypoints which is linked to multiple triggers.

example:

1 t72 leaves, hits an area trigger which is only affected by the specified unit, the next unit gets its waypoint switched, hits an area trigger.... repeat until all are out.

when they are all out, they all join a commanding unit.

simple, probably takes a while though.

[WindWalker 0]

Open Nogova Map

Place an East man

Save as    Hidden Tank

alt Tab out find Hidden Tank in your USER missions folder

using notepad make an INIT.sqs as follows

;************for relative positioning ***************

RelPosCoord=preprocessfile "RelPosCoord.sqf"

;*********************************************************

exit

then

Then using notepad again make an sqs file in your mission directory named      Hiddentank.sqs

Note: (object 61291) is the map oblect tag for the southern hangar on nogova) If you use a Harden Shelter then name it shelter and change (object 61291) to shelter Or whatever name you choose. Be Carful with the direction of the addon some have 0 degree that point to the rear like on nogova hanger. If the tank spawns and has to turn to get out edit the dir+180 to  dir-90 or what ever direction gets the tank pointen out the GD door!

paste this as follows

;*******START hiddentank.SQS SETUP **************************************************

_post1=[(object 61291),0,0] call RelPosCoord;t1 setpos _post1

_dir=getdir (object 61291);t1 setdir _dir+180

t1 setpos [(getpos (object 61291) select 0),(getpos (object 61291) select 1),.9]

t1 setfuel 1

~9

;**********************************************************************************

_post2=[(object 61291),0,0] call RelPosCoord;t2 setpos _post2

_dir=getdir (object 61291);t2 setdir _dir+180

t2 setpos [(getpos (object 61291) select 0),(getpos (object 61291) select 1),.9]

t2 setfuel 1

~6

;**********************************************************************************

_post3=[(object 61291),0,0] call RelPosCoord;t3 setpos _post3

_dir=getdir (object 61291);t3 setdir _dir+180

t3 setpos [(getpos (object 61291) select 0),(getpos (object 61291) select 1),.1]

t3 setfuel 1

~5

;**********************************************************************************

_post4=[(object 61291),0,0] call RelPosCoord;t4 setpos _post4

_dir=getdir (object 61291);t4 setdir _dir+180

t4 setpos [(getpos (object 61291) select 0),(getpos (object 61291) select 1),.1]

t4 setfuel 1

;**********************************************************************************

EXIT

That done

open Nogova Map set a Platoon of East Tanks anywhere away from the airport and name each tank t1, t2, t3, t4  set their formation to none  ( preferably place then in column but not really necessary just lets them exit the hanger faster) and slide their fuel to none .Then on the map select waypoints click on the leader t1 then place the waypoint west of the southern hanger aligned to the center of the hanger about 70m west there of, set the speed to full and formation column. set the next waypoint due north about 1000 m and set engage at will, speed full, status combat and formation wedge.

Now on the map place a trigger radius 5 infront of the man (who is hopefuly set facing the Hanger) set Activation by EAST (if you want to live and watch them)  activation ONCE and on the Activation line place    [] exec "HiddenTank.sqs"

save mission again and run it. Walk thru the trigger.

The Tanks will spawn in the hanger one at a time and exit  about 8 seconds apart move in column to the first waypoint then fan out into wedge and proceed north .

I would have sent the mission but no Email addy found for you.

BTW if you like this you can Thank  IGOR DUKOV he a pro ! and a Damn good M8