Lock N Load 0 Posted January 12, 2002 I have a: Intel celeron 663mhz 64mb ram voodoo 3 3000 With what I have there is some lag when there is a lot of units on the screen. So I am looking to add and additional 256mb ram to my computer. Will that stop most of the lag? And will I be allowed to turn up the graphic to mostly full without lag. (Or is it my processor?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caz 0 Posted January 12, 2002 Ram would do u good mate but u would still get times where the screen gets jerky :/ i have a 750mhz athlon - 384mb ram -64mb Ge-Force II Ultra at 800x600 and it dies on me sometimes its sometimes cus mission designers just throw in loads of enemy AI and it just curns your CPU to a halt and what with some missions saying 1ghz or above needed , looks like ill be upgrading soon as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted January 12, 2002 I know the box says that 64MB are required, and 128MB recommended, but I'd say 256MB is the bare minimum for enjoyable gaming under Windows 98/ME, and 384MB for 2000/XP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted January 12, 2002 Your processor, ram & vid card are holding you back, as well as putting more ram in a better vid card would help compensate for your processor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wobble 1 Posted January 12, 2002 Ram wont MAKE a game run faster it will ALLOW the game to run faster.. but only if the Vid card and processor has the power too... more ram is not a majic bandaid.. you really should upgrade your processor, vid card and ram if you want to see any REAL improvment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lock N Load 0 Posted January 13, 2002 ok then I'll look into upgrading. about how much would it be to upgrade my processor to something that would be better for ofp? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrLaggy 0 Posted January 13, 2002 Geez, I'm running on a PIII-550 (+640MB of RAM) and all the campaign missions are perfectly playable with max detail settings but some of the shadow options disabled. OFP does like a fast CPU (I can run those 1GHz+ missions, but they crawl until we kill off a lot of the AIs), but more RAM should be the first priority and a faster graphics card the second. 64MB is nothing these days (I have more than that on my graphics card at work!), and 256MB will certainly make OFP run faster even on your current system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted January 13, 2002 Yup I agree with MrLaggy your upgrade priorities should prolly be in the order of Ram then GFX Card then CPU, and if you're on a budget look at AMD, you can get 1ghz CPUS very reasonably these days, but then of course you're prolly looking at a new motherboard, first thing to do is probably identify your motherboard and find out what the maximum it will accept CPU wise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wobble 1 Posted January 13, 2002 FYI a P3 550 is MUCH MUCH faster than an celeron 663mhz.. as for more ram yes OFP does like lots of ram.. but if your processor and video card cant push it.. its pretty much useless.. and upgrading yer ram first is not a good idea.. because the next thing you know you turn around and buy a processor that needs ram that is better than what you just bought.. I.E. pc100 10ns ram is great of a cooky celery 650 but will not cut it with a 1ghz plus REAL processor, no matter how much of it you have.. then you need AT LEAST 133mhz capable memory, and all that ram you just bought is useless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted January 13, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wobble @ Jan. 13 2002,14:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">FYI a P3 550 is MUCH MUCH faster than an celeron 663mhz.. <snip><span id='postcolor'> How do you define "MUCH MUCH"? Performance-wise, I'd say its about a toss-up between the two processors. There will be specific instructions and tasks where one processor will beat the other, but I don't think one has a definite edge over the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wobble 1 Posted January 13, 2002 I would say the P3 550 is about 30% faster than the celery 650 under heavy load (intense game scenes..etc). Â this is based on the computers I have had myself.. comparing a Celeron to a P3 is about like comparing a K62(remember those) to a P2. its not so much 'speed' in the sense of how fast.. its more POWER.. kinda like horsepower VS torque.. both mean different things at diffferent times.. clockspeed is like horsepower.. at low strain is when it shines.. POWER is like torque.. at high strain it shines. even though something might have high HP it might have low.. thats kinda how processors.. they can be very fast but deal with lots of strain very poorley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrLaggy 0 Posted January 13, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I would say the P3 550 is about 30% faster than the celery 650 under heavy load (intense game scenes..etc). Â this is based on the computers I have had myself.. comparing a Celeron to a P3 is about like comparing a K62(remember those) to a P2.<span id='postcolor'> Well, Â the K6-2 was a fundamentally different chip to a PII, whereas a Celeron is simply a PIII with a smaller cache running at higher speeds and a 66MHz memory bus. So yes, it's likely to be slower than a PIII-550 with very memory-intensive applications but I'd be surprised if it's 30% slower on OFP; OFP does want lots of RAM, but I suspect most of it is used for textures and static model data which the CPU doesn't touch very often. I can see your earlier point about upgrading RAM and then realising that you need a faster CPU which needs different RAM. But if you're not willing to go to the expense of replacing your motherboard, CPU and probably even the power supply just to make OFP run faster then it's well worth adding more RAM and seeing whether the game is now playable; and I don't know about current RAM prices but when I upgraded mine a few months ago 66MHz DIMMs were unavailable and 133MHz cost the same as 100MHz... if that's still true there's no reason not to buy 133MHz RAM so you could potentially upgrade to a faster PIII chip if it will fit on on the current motherboard (the reason I only have a 550 is that 600 is the fastest that I can fit, and they were obsolete by the time I thought about upgrading). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lock N Load 0 Posted January 13, 2002 Im looking at getting the 256 mb sdram pc133. It is 25 bucks at the local compusa. So I guess I might as well try it out. I almost 100% sure that will fit my computer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted January 13, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lock N Load @ Jan. 14 2002,02:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Im looking at getting the 256 mb sdram pc133. It is 25 bucks at the local compusa. So I guess I might as well try it out. I almost 100% sure that will fit my computer. <span id='postcolor'> The good news is that if you get PC133 RAM and your system only supports PC100, it will still work, albeit at the lower speed. You may have to remove the existing RAM however, because some chipsets/motherboards cannot handle dissimilar RAM -- that's why it is always a good idea to buy matched memory modules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flugel 0 Posted January 13, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MrLaggy @ Jan. 13 2002,13:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I would say the P3 550 is about 30% faster than the celery 650 under heavy load (intense game scenes..etc). Â this is based on the computers I have had myself.. comparing a Celeron to a P3 is about like comparing a K62(remember those) to a P2.<span id='postcolor'> Well, Â the K6-2 was a fundamentally different chip to a PII, whereas a Celeron is simply a PIII with a smaller cache running at higher speeds and a 66MHz memory bus. So yes, it's likely to be slower than a PIII-550 with very memory-intensive applications but I'd be surprised if it's 30% slower on OFP; OFP does want lots of RAM, but I suspect most of it is used for textures and static model data which the CPU doesn't touch very often. I can see your earlier point about upgrading RAM and then realising that you need a faster CPU which needs different RAM. But if you're not willing to go to the expense of replacing your motherboard, CPU and probably even the power supply just to make OFP run faster then it's well worth adding more RAM and seeing whether the game is now playable; and I don't know about current RAM prices but when I upgraded mine a few months ago 66MHz DIMMs were unavailable and 133MHz cost the same as 100MHz... if that's still true there's no reason not to buy 133MHz RAM so you could potentially upgrade to a faster PIII chip if it will fit on on the current motherboard (the reason I only have a 550 is that 600 is the fastest that I can fit, and they were obsolete by the time I thought about upgrading).<span id='postcolor'> lol welcome to tweakers.net Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
