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Well for some countries it would make sense for others it wouldnt. France and germany use the drogue system on their jets (though not on all)  The netherland has 2 KDC-10 tankers which can be modified with a adapter to carry the drogue. The drogue system has serious draw backs though. The probe distorts the aerodynamics and requires each plane to carry a heavier system then the boom system. In fighters you dont want more weight then is strictly necesary. On a AWACS weight isnt a gian issue but i do think its better for NATO / Europe to decide on a single system and have all nations use this. Also the lack of refueling planes of the KDC-10 level might be something for nato too look into. The same goes for heavy transport. It might be usefull to do the same they did with the AWACS and buy a fleet that all member nations can use smile_o.gif

I think it would be nice to release a "US" and a "UK" version of the AWACS though the difference is so small most people wouldnt notice it anway wink_o.gif

Going a bit off topic:

Well the techincal issue of Drogue vs Probe is one of operational risk analysis and doctrine.

RISK - Basically do you want to run the risk of skewering your aircraft on a solid steel and aluminium pipe if/when the pilot fluffs the join up? Or rip a drogue to bits whenthe pilot comes in too hot?

Doctrine - Do you buy US based kit or European?  US is nearly 100% Probe and Recepticle (Helicopters and USMC Harriers (Made inthe UK assembled in the US  tounge_o.gif are the expection ) or Europeon produced aircraft which are exclusivley Drogue fed.

So if you want to operate F-16s you need a KC-10 Extender or the like.  If you want to operate Eurofighter or Tornado you can buy any platform you like aslong as it can stream a drogue.  You can even retrofit your transport fleet or even other fighter/bomber aircraftto carry it.  There is a FAST pack for C-130's in use atm.

You have to rember that alot of the US aircraft are designed with Air-to-Refueling as a basic requirement.  Alot of European airforces still operate with older aircraft with the probe added at somepoint later in their life span.

Its really an issue of cost and investment rather than which is better.

I will say this though the US Air Force lost a lot of aircaft and crew due to tanker collisions in the last 10 years. The RAF has lost one airframe due to a refueling tanker collision in its entire history.  There was an article about it in Flight International some months back Airbus MRRT vs the New Series of Boeing Products. Its really quite an interesting article

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looks very good

where can I get the ready addons (download) ?

and where can I get this little yellow airsupport vehicle (RKSL-HAS 1 pics) ?

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The HAS Pack and Nets are due for release next week time permitting...just got some bugs to work out of them.

The Support stuff is part of Col. Klinks HAS pack get it here:

http://www.dc3d.co.nz/Utopia/download.htm

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Lo guys,

Just a heads-up...I've released the BETA pack for the L96 & L115 Sniper Rifles.

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Thread HERE

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The Final release of two of the 3 net packs are out.

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You can get them from this THIS THREAD including mirrors.

A word to the critics and ultra realists....read the readme before you go posting, it may save some bandwidth.

You can read them both here:

UK Net Pack Readme

US Net Pack Readme

Thanks for all your support

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I've been draggin around my hard drive for unfinished projects and decided to start a few of them from scratch.  They are mostly exotic aircraft so I'm opening "Rockworks".  You may of heard of Lockheed's famous "Skunkworks" and Boeing's "Phantom Works", well this is my varient.  The projects will remain in the dark to all be a few until they either escape(Betas) or are released. tounge_o.gif

The first to get a public viewing is the B-2 Spirit and the Boeing Bird of Prey (Can be seen in below)

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Ok, I'm asking for a bit of scripting help on this one.  I'd like to implement a CCIP HUD if possible.  I know several people have tried to make one some time ago but i thought since some of the "impossible limits" have been broken recently by ingenious members of our community I thought i'd ask. smile_o.gif

I've spent some time searching for CCIP (Continuosly Calculated Impact point) scripts but only come across Rastavovich's Mission based script has anyone else come up with anything better?

...answers on a PM please    smile_o.gif

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At the very least it'll have a VERY low signature.

I think its been proven in the real world that they arent invisible! smile_o.gif

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At the very least it'll have a VERY low signature.

I think its been proven in the real world that they arent invisible! smile_o.gif

where was the proof that B2 bombers are not invisible on radar?

perhaps on passive radar, but it is unclear if anyone has passive radar.

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There is one well documented occasion on it first trip to the UK when air traffic controllers picked it up well off the coast of Cornwall.  The US iniatially denied that it was possible but later said the the aircraft was carrying "Radar Augmentors".  To my know knowledge these "Augmentors" were never mentioned again.  It was discussed at length in Flight International.  I think its was in '94, but i'm only guessing.

As for active and passive radar, Passive radar uses a unique coded beacon on the aircraft itself. Similar to IFF systems.  Its most commonly used for Civil Traffic control.  Where as Active Radar uses a Pulse of energy to detect and return a signal etc (The more common explanation of radar etc) this is more commonly used for military search and control.

Buring the Bosnian and Kosovo campaigns the Serbs claimed to have downed atleast one B-2 I think.  During the research for this project I came across something if i can find it later i'll post links.

The station that detected the B-2 back in the early '90s when it approached Cornwall en-route to Fairford or Farnborough Airshow was an 'old' cold war type radar. It was due for replacement at somepoint but it seems 1950's technology can detect 21st Century Stealth tounge_o.gif

EDIT - Link  B2 stealth bomber shot down

EDIT 2 -B-2A Spirit Shot down - There are some interesting links about Long-wave radar (Older Tech stuff) here.

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EDIT - Link B2 stealth bomber shot down

EDIT 2 -B-2A Spirit Shot down - There are some interesting links about Long-wave radar (Older Tech stuff) here.

link 2 isn't working for me

link 1 tells you a nice story, but doesn't give any proof (no photo etc.) or the names of any of the witnesses.

I have my doubts that this story is true.

Why should a B2 fly at low altitude if they have GPS guied bombs?

Can you be sure that the B2 was hidden by an radar guided or IR missile?

Perhaps the ground units just opened flak fire to somewhere in the air because they heard something?

to passive radar:

I didn't mean the radar technology used in civil air control.

There the aircraft sends a special signal (e.g. using a Transponder) and the ground units receive it.

I meant a radar system like Vera

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Its a documented fact that the US lost a B-2 over Belgrade. However the US havent confirmed or denied that it was shot down. Only that it went down.

Heres the text to the link anyway. It works fine for me. http://www.aeronautics.ru/nws001/b2down001.htm

As for VERA it works in the same way as Civil Radar in that is looks for electronic emissions:

Radar

SSR/IFF Transponders

TACAN Interrogators

Jammers

Data Links (Even Freq Agile Pulse systems)

etc

So if a B-2 is 'blacked out/electronically passive' it wouldn't detect it. But only until the B-2 used something to link to the ourside world.

The kink in the B-2 is also that its rumoured to have "active" stealth capability. IE there is some electronic system that distorts RADAR signals and sends back a negative return. Whether this would be detectable I dont know.

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Its a documented fact that the US lost a B-2 over Belgrade.  However the US havent confirmed or denied that it was shot down.  Only that it went down.

I really think you should double check your facts. Because as far as i know 38 planes where lossed during the kosovo war. On which there was 1 F-16, 1 F-117 and 36 UAV's.

And seeing the fact that the serbians where all over the news showing proudly that they shot down an F-117. And this never happend with the B-2 i really doubt it ever happend. Here is where i get my facts from

Janes Kosovo War

But enough about that. Really hope this plane will make it to the end production. Been waiting for a good stealth plane for missions for quite some time already

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Well i'm only going off what is on the web news services. Admittedly not the most consistant for information. I'll find the links later if i can it states "B-2 lost". There is also a statement from a USAF General - whether thats is a misquote or not I'm not going to venture but i do remeber it was from a Russian News agency website.

But I admit if you look at the Serials List it says there isnt one missing so i beg your pardon.

ANYWAY..back to the topic...CCIP scripts anyone?

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Quote[/b] ]I really think you should double check your facts. Because as far as i know 38 planes where lossed during the kosovo war. On which there was 1 F-16, 1 F-117 and 36 UAV's.

Apparently it was more like 40-60 planes. There's loads of info in this thread.  smile_o.gif

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Considering there aren't any B2's missing from their base, I'd find it hard to credit the loss of one.

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Considering there aren't any B2's missing from their base, I'd find it hard to credit the loss of one.

There, someone finally said it. Each and every B-2 is stationed at Whiteman AFB, MO. I've been there, and seen the B-2 VERY close up. My brother was a hydraulics specialist on B-2's for six years, before he went to USAF SOCOM. My name, and those of our family members was written in chalk on several JDAM's dropped over Bosnia.

Each plane is named, like a ship. Spirit of Texas, Spirit of America, etc.

The base and the communities of families that live and work there are a tight little group. A plane and crew would not just go missing. It has not happened, ever. Period. End of story.

If the B-2 was ever spotted on radar, it's because the US wanted it to be visible.

It's simply not true. So let's just forget this conversation and move forward, 'kay?

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Don't forget that Serbia was one hell of a dense area to fight in with all that concentrated GCI and air defenses.  I think NATO commanders underestimated the "thickness" of their ground AAA and SAM capabilities.  

Not to mention NATO, in particularly US aircraft were often doing too risky, almost stupid sorties that severly put more Airmen at risk.  I think the US got a little overconfident after the first Gulf War and got complacent.

Overall it was a major achievement for NATO there, no conventional ground troops were used to end that conflict and bring a peace agreement.

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Oh for Pete's sake, some one read the thread before you post. This has been resolved, now either contribute or sod off.

Quote[/b] ]But I admit if you look at the Serials List it says there isnt one missing so i beg your pardon.

ANYWAY..back to the topic...CCIP scripts anyone?

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