Mp3 player!

[brgnorway 0]

Quote[/b] ]As for the iPod lacking something: you can not record (no build in microphone or microphone jack/line in),

ipod microphone (plug and play)

Quote[/b] ] ......you can not just drag&drop music on the player (not sure about files) - and if you want to copy music back from the player to another machine you're fecked. Forget about simple plug&play with that player.

ipod media reader (plug and play)

Quote[/b] ] ..... ogg ........ (which no other player can play anyways).

this one does: Asono Sound Hub

[Warin 0]

The iPod rocks. I have a 10 gig model and it is the greatest.

I get ~8 hours of life between charges, and have never once had it 'reformat' itself.

Plus iTunes is one of the easiest to use packages around.

I am thinking of selling it and swapping to the Mini iPod when it becomes available. Only 4 gig, but SO small

[joltan 0]

Quote[/b] ] ..... ogg ........ (which no other player can play anyways).

this one does: Asono Sound Hub

Talk about quoting out of context: I was refering to the Apple AAC format, not ogg. There's more than one player that can play ogg - that's why I was recommending to get a player (whatever brand) that supports that format instead of Apple's proprietary codec.

As for the other things: extra hardware you have to pay for. With the iRiver it's all build in (optical and analog line in AND a build in microphone that's quite good for voice recording). And you misunderstood what I meant with plug&play: you can connect the iRiver to any computer as a standard USB-harddisc without the need for any special drivers or software. You can copy files and music by using the Windows Explorer (or any other file manager under Unix or MacOs) by simple drag and drop instead of going through a proprietary software. You can't do that with the iPod.

[brgnorway 0]

Quote[/b] ]Talk about quoting out of context: I was refering to the Apple AAC format, not ogg.

Silly me, must be a misunderstanding due to a certain amount of Erdinger Weissbier

Quote[/b] ]by simple drag and drop instead of going through a proprietary software. You can't do that with the iPod.

I might be wrong again of course but don't you mean extra "hardware" because I don't think you need extra software:

Quote[/b] ]Using software support that’s already built in your iPod

Source

[joltan 0]

Wether you use extra hardware or software to be able to copy files/music to/from your player without a hassle isn't really the point, is it? It's extra hassle and inconvenient either way: you can't always just install your own software on machines you don't own (like at work or at customers' places - or when working with an OS not supported by the proprietary software) and in the case of hardware it's extra costs as the nescessary software is at least usually included in the sale of the player (also there's usually freeware available that does the same or even a better job).

Note: I'm not trying to put the iPod down - from my point of view it's lacking some essential features, but if you like the design and that's more important to you than the features I mentioned in my previous posts then go for it. Each to its own. But I really recommend you to take your time with that descision. Those things are expensive - wether you go for an Apple, an iRiver, Rio Karma or any other of the better hd players. Just make sure you'll still be satisfied after some time has past.

I took three month to select the player I finally bought - and then I had to wait for another one and a half months before it was actually available on the market:

First I looked at the iPod and found it lacking (mainly the connectivity and endurance), then I looked (among others) at the Rio Karma (only announced at that time, but it's got mp3pro support), the Creative Zen (like the iPod bad connectivity), the Phillips and the mpio HD 100 (also 20gb hd and works as a proper external USB-harddisc) and would have gone for the latter if I hadn't found out about the iRiver in time.

At that time they only had a 10GB harddisk - too small for my needs (remember I have to transport lots of data with that thing, too), but the 20GB version was rumored to be out soon. I waited some more time meanwhile checking the 10GB version for it's features and reviews, and when iRiver officially announced the H-120 I preordered it immediately. And I'm still happy I didn't go for any of the other candidates I checked out first.

Edit: your link isn't working.

[brgnorway 0]

Appreciate your advices Joltan, I'll use the time nessecary to find out what/which suits my needs best

[Dauragon 0]

You might want to check out the Sony VGF-AP1

http://www.vaio.sony.co.jp/Products/VGF-AP1/index.html

[brgnorway 0]

I just wanted to thank you all for advices regarding my mp3 purchase. I listened to several players but ended up with Apple's Ipod despite it's reduced technical posibilities compared to it's alternatives. The final desicion was based purely on my preference on as "audiophile" sound as possible. Apple's aac format was much better than other mp3 based formats - including Ogg Vorbis.

If there are any one out there just as stupid as I when it comes down to technicall skills I have a good advice: do consider Itunes!

[HellToupee 0]

ive got a MSI megastick 256mb, its great holds all the songs i need, takes one AAA and runs about 12hours of it, controls are easy to use, comes with earphones that clip on to your ears. Has LCD screen so you can manage things on it somewhat.

I have 2 rechargeable NiHiM batterys i swap around, really pays off quite quickly.

[joltan 0]

Hehe, I hope you enjoy your new toy!