Munich olympics film

[ralphwiggum 6]

http://www.cnn.com/2004....ex.html

Quote[/b] ]LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Filmmaker Steven Spielberg, who won his first Oscar for the Holocaust drama "Schindler's List," has taken on another tragic moment in modern Jewish history as his next project -- the 1972 Munich Olympics.

Spielberg plans to start production in June and is eyeing actor Ben Kingsley for a role in the upcoming drama, which will chronicle the Summer Games marred by the kidnapping and slaying of Israeli athletes by Palestinian militants, a DreamWorks studio spokeswoman said Wednesday.

In all, 11 Israelis lost their lives in the bloody 1972 tragedy, including nine hostages killed in a botched rescue attempt at a military air base outside Munich, all while Olympics officials carried on with the competition. Five of the gunmen and a German policeman also died. Three of the militants were captured alive.

The specter of the massacre 32 years ago has haunted authorities in Greece preparing security for the upcoming Summer Olympics in Athens amid heightened concerns of potential attacks by extremists linked to the al Qaeda terror network.

Details of the as-yet-untitled film have been kept shrouded in secrecy as Spielberg pins down European locations for the production, the studio spokeswoman said.

She said the screenplay will be written by Eric Roth, who won an Oscar for his "Forrest Gump" script and was nominated for "The Insider." The film is to be released domestically by Universal Pictures, a unit of Vivendi Universal , and overseen by Spielberg's home studio, DreamWorks SKG. No release date has been set.

It was not clear what role Kingsley might take. He previously co-starred in "Schindler's List," which earned Spielberg Academy Awards for best picture and best director. Spielberg won his second directing Oscar for the World War II film, "Saving Private Ryan."

The Munich Olympics debacle also was the subject of the Oscar-winning documentary "One Day in September" (2000) as well as the 1976 television dramatization, "21 Hours at Munich."

now who wants to chime in and help us with facts before Hollywood screws it up?

plus, no debate about Middle East or anyother political crap please. that's for ME thread.

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

great topic, but I gotta do some research first before posting. So carry on and I participate later.

[Pathy 0]

Meh, if its a Hollywood film, we will have a crack team of Navy SEALs, led by the man who built the stadium and thus knows all the secret access routes, who used to be US SF, until a mission went wrong and his buddy/ dog/ girl got killed, upon which he retired and swore never to fight again. However, he is tempted out of retirement by the Terrorists threatening to kill his son/ daughter/ goldfish, and agrees to lead the mission.

However, one of the Elite Team Of Navy SEALS will infact be an Islamic agent, and the team will be killed and he will be taken captive. After a breif interlude he will escape and, like a one man army, overpower all the terrorists, before a thrilling finale, where, his son/ daughter/ goldfish being kidnapped, he somehow cleverly manages to overpower them, and at the same time make a witty off the cuff remark as the villain dies.

And forget about the 11 hostages, thats just not Hollywood......

[GoOB 0]

I can't see how you can make a good film out of the incident, I have watched a few good documentaries but I don't think you can squeeze any serious screenplay in. A very touchy subject too!

[ran 0]

bah .....

is he going to reproduce the terrorists' bad tastes in matter of balaclavas and other headgear ?

[HotShot 0]

Isn't their already a film about the Munich Olympics? Maybe it is that 21 Hours at Munich Tv drama the news report says (a year or so since i saw it), but i'm sure it was a proper film.

[Akira 0]

My guess is Tom Cruise will swoop in with his Spitfire and jump out, beheading all the terrorists with his samurai sword. Of course, he will lose a close friend in the fight, causing him to doubt his god given superior skills, until he reaches deep down to find his strength and defeat communism with his Tide sponsored Nascar.

[ran 0]

My guess is Tom Cruise will swoop in with his Spitfire and jump out, beheading all the terrorists with his samurai sword. Of course, he will lose a close friend in the fight, causing him to doubt his god given superior skills, until he reaches deep down to find his strength and defeat communism with his Tide sponsored Nascar.

don't forget about the sex scene with Nicole Kidmann(sp?)

[GoOB 0]

My guess is Tom Cruise will swoop in with his Spitfire and jump out, beheading all the terrorists with his samurai sword. Of course, he will lose a close friend in the fight, causing him to doubt his god given superior skills, until he reaches deep down to find his strength and defeat communism with his Tide sponsored Nascar.

don't forget about the sex scene with Nicole Kidmann(sp?)

I thought that one was too obvious to mention

But after reading the more intricate details it seems like this movie might be worth watching. My only request is to let the Germans speak German, the Israelis speak Hebrew and the Palestinian rebels arabic. Accents and such things make me sick.

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

And I have the slight idea that the germans will be the bad guys again..cooperating with the arabs!

[Akira 0]

And I have the slight idea that the germans will be the bad guys again..cooperating with the arabs!

Obviously to finish what they couldn't finish in "Schindler's List".

[ran 0]

Pales : baddies

Israeli athletes : poor martyrs

Germans : stubborn incompetent fucks

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

okay before we go into depth and serious discussion..the germans were pretty incompetent during these times. So short after the war we had nothing even near to an armed force. Due to this desaster we built up the GSG9, which a few years later turned out to be a very effective unit to strike terorist-hostage takings!

[ran 0]

okay before we go into depth and serious discussion..the germans were pretty incompetent during these times. So short after the war we had nothing even near to an armed force. Due to this desaster we built up the GSG9, which a few years later turned out to be a very effective unit to strike terorist-hostage takings!

well .... seeing police officers climbing onto the olympic buildings with "random" weapons and zero to no protection ...

assaulting the terrorists while they're boarding the helicopters without the correct gear and by scaring shitless the tangos ...

I remember some video tapes shown for "educationnal reasons", it all looked like "mister bean in the police playing with guns"

Hopefully the german government took the right measures and created the GSG9 .... which illustrated itself and wrote its name in golden letters on the big fat history book of the world's best intervention units 5 years after its creation during the 17/10/1977 plane hijacking in Mogadiscio when 4 Palestinian terrorists who had hijacked a 737 which had germany as destination saw the death in the shape of GSG9 operatives with their famous (but now retired) blue outfits.

[Balschoiw 0]

Quote[/b] ]stubborn incompetent fucks

Yes they never thought about such a scenario. They were totally overwhelmed with the violence and drama.

Noone had such a situation before. Noone was prepared for such.

Today with have our BGS, SEK´s,other special units, and finally GSG9.

I think that´s a very proper setup.

[ran 0]

Quote[/b] ]stubborn incompetent fucks

Yes they never thought about such a scenario. They were totally overwhelmed with the violence and drama.

Noone had such a situation before. Noone was prepared for such.

Today with have our BGS, SEK´s,other special units, and finally GSG9.

I think that´s a very proper setup.

I was just thinking about how the krauts (sorry ) would be depicted in the movie.

France was exactly in the same case.. guess why the GIGN has been created ? (in november 1973 btw)

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

Why didnt he make a film about the ship of concentration camp survivors that tried to get to Israel after the war. They were heading to France, to Israel and then back to Germany because they were not allowed to go off the ship. A long and fascinating story. Full of strange stories that also involves the Brits in a not to nice way

[Guest]

The story after the munich debacle is interesting as well; the mossad hunting down and killing each and every member involved in it all over the world.

I predict it will end with a 'feel good - revenge' montage like in "The Sum of All Fears" that tied up the loose ends in the story. You can pretty much expect a Spielberg film to end on a high note, with the bad guys defeated at the hands of their victims...

[turms 0]

The story after the munich debacle is interesting as well; the mossad hunting down and killing each and every member involved in it all over the world.  

I predict it will end with a 'feel good - revenge' montage like in "The Sum of All Fears" that tied up the loose ends in the story.  You can pretty much expect a Spielberg film to end on a high note, with the bad guys defeated at the hands of their victims...

I allways thought that there is 1 of the terrorists still living, saw a documentary about the incident. I hope the film will be done in a deacent manner, honouring the dead, and keeping the facts straight.

EDIT: Yes, 1 terrorist got away, more details about the operation to track them terrorists down here

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

in a decent manner? they gonna get raped in a symbolic way to serve a brainwash purpose:

Arabs: always killing machines just out there to kill Israelis

Israelis: the victims (as in the Middle East conflicts)

Germans: Incompetent to fight teror (hint: Iraq war)

Message: you better arm yourself to fight teror (ArabsPalestinians), and fight these killing machines where thry comes from (Iraq/palestine) cause otherwise war is coming to you (911). And then your life depends on incompetent germans that do not want to go to war untill the war comes to them.

Oh and not to speak about the fact that Mr. SPielberg will certainly use the occasion to show one or the other scene in which german "antisemitism" is still alive and cooking.

Hell I realy hate this guy since Saving P. Ryan. If this guy ever dares to come to Germany he gets a few rotten eggs in his face from me.

[cozza 24]

Meh, if its a Hollywood film, we will have a crack team of Navy SEALs, led by the man who built the stadium and thus knows all the secret access routes, who used to be US SF, until a mission went wrong and his buddy/ dog/ girl got killed, upon which he retired and swore never to fight again. However, he is tempted out of retirement by the Terrorists threatening to kill his son/ daughter/ goldfish, and agrees to lead the mission.

However, one of the Elite Team Of Navy SEALS will infact be an Islamic agent, and the team will be killed and he will be taken captive. After a breif interlude he will escape and, like a one man army, overpower all the terrorists, before a thrilling finale, where, his son/ daughter/ goldfish being kidnapped, he somehow cleverly manages to overpower them, and at the same time make a witty off the cuff remark as the villain dies.

And forget about the 11 hostages, thats just not Hollywood......

Is that the story for the nightstalker mod Pathy

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

Again, from all the newspapers in the world "Le Figaro" and "La Nation" found the most authentive words for the Olympic desaster

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"Le Figaro (Frankreich): In unserer Zeit sind es nicht mehr die Spiele, die die Kriege unterbrechen, sondern die Kriege unterbrechen die Spiele.

"

In our days it is no longer games that interrupt wars but wars that interrupt games."

La Nation (Frankreich): So grauenhaft die von den Palästinensern begangenen Taten fast überall in der Welt sind, man muss einsehen, dass diese Gewalt nichts tut, als sich gegen eine andere Form von Gewalt aufzulehnen: die schreiende Ungerechtigkeit. Denn ihre Opfer schreien. Und das seit langer Zeit. Aber ihr Schrei verhallte in der Wüste. Jetzt schlagen sie zu. Scheußlich? Ja. Aber so geht es, wenn die Schwäche verhöhnt wird, wenn die Großmächte und sogar die eigenen Brüder eines verlassenen Volkes vor der Wahrheit die Augen verschließen."[/i}

"as terrible as such acts committed by palestinians may be, one has to understand, that agression does nothing, but to rebel against another sort of agression. Their vicitms were crying but the sound got lost in the desert. Now they strike back. Terrible, but that happens if the weakest is mocked, when super-powers and even close brothers close their eyes from reality

Italienischer Staatsrundfunk: Es ist ein überaus bitterer Preis, den die Deutschen gerade dafür bezahlen müssen, dass sie sich vom alten Klischee lösen wollten, dass sie ihre Grundeinstellung entmilitarisierten und die Kontrollen im olympischen Dorf vielleicht etwas zu weich, locker und herzlich handhabten.

It is a bitter price, the germans have to pay for trying to get rid of the old cliché, to demilitarise their attitudes, and therefore organised the controlls in the olympic village a bit too friendly, too loose!

And the best comes from the UN

Kurt Waldheim (UN-Generalsekretär): Ich bin über den heimtückischen Akt gegen die israelischen Sportler im olympischen Dorf tief bestürzt. Die Tat ist um so empörender, weil sie bei den Olympischen Spielen verübt wurde, einem der ältesten und vornehmsten Versuche, die Verständigung und Aussöhnung unter den Völkern zu fördern.

[Guest]

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The Munich Olympics debacle also was the subject of the Oscar-winning documentary "One Day in September" (2000) as well as the 1976 television dramatization, "21 Hours at Munich."

"One Day in September" is really good. I went and saw it in a cinema....very powerful stuff, very well made. If you are interested in this incident it's a must-see.

One of the most disturbing (or stupid) parts of the whole affair was when a team was 5 mins away from storming the rooms where the terrorists/hostages were. Then some bright spark realised that pictures of the team setting up, crawling on the roof etc were being broadcast live. Every suite in the village had TVs and all the terrorists would have to do is switch on the tele to know where and when they would be attacked. By all accounts it was very close to happening

[Pathy 0]

Meh, if its a Hollywood film, we will have a crack team of Navy SEALs, led by the man who built the stadium and thus knows all the secret access routes, who used to be US SF, until a mission went wrong and his buddy/ dog/ girl got killed, upon which he retired and swore never to fight again. However, he is tempted out of retirement by the Terrorists threatening to kill his son/ daughter/ goldfish, and agrees to lead the mission.

However, one of the Elite Team Of Navy SEALS will infact be an Islamic agent, and the team will be killed and he will be taken captive. After a breif interlude he will escape and, like a one man army, overpower all the terrorists, before a thrilling finale, where, his son/ daughter/ goldfish being kidnapped, he somehow cleverly manages to overpower them, and at the same time make a witty off the cuff remark as the villain dies.

And forget about the 11 hostages, thats just not Hollywood......

Is that the story for the nightstalker mod Pathy  

Well now you say.......

[Guest]

The story after the munich debacle is interesting as well; the mossad hunting down and killing each and every member involved in it all over the world.  

I predict it will end with a 'feel good - revenge' montage like in "The Sum of All Fears" that tied up the loose ends in the story.  You can pretty much expect a Spielberg film to end on a high note, with the bad guys defeated at the hands of their victims...

I allways thought that there is 1 of the terrorists still living, saw a documentary about the incident. I hope the film will be done in a deacent manner, honouring the dead, and keeping the facts straight.

EDIT: Yes, 1 terrorist got away, more details about the operation to track them terrorists down here

Sadly, the story of one of mossad's most succesful operations ends with one of their biggest failures; the killing of the wrong man in connection with the munich massacre.

I have an old book on the story lying around, really shoddy journalism, but I'm gonna see if I can dig it up...