m21man 0 Posted September 18, 2004 Quote[/b] ]So next time I suggest you do a simple Google search before shooting off your ill-informed mouth. Why don't you explain how US troops in South Korea are going to be able to do anything about North Korea's nuclear ability? Aggressive military action is not the way to deal with a large military backed up by nuclear weapons. Quote[/b] ]Bush espouses the threat of WMDs in the world and to the US He espoused the idea of getting rid of the problem before it got out of hand. A new report (Check the NY Times) indicates that Iraq would certainly have aggressively pursued WMDs had sanctions been lifted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted September 18, 2004 yeah yeah...would...have...will...could... Fact : Iraq had no WMD´s while Bush said they had. Fact: Other nations told the TBA that they had NO intel on WMD´s in Iraq. Multiple times. Fact: Powell presented lies to the community of the UN Fact: Condoleeza Rice lied to the public of the world about WMD´s in Iraq. Fact: Rumsfeld lied to the world about Abu Ghraib and WMD´s in Iraq. Jeez, I´m still wondering how some people still can defend the most illegal and by the way totally out of control war in Iraq. This is hard to explain with loyality to the TBA or patriotism. It´s just stupid to defend the war on Iraq. It has been started for wrong reasons intentionally and the country is going down the sewers thx to Bush and his incompetent team. Oh , I´m waiting for someone to pop out of the box and tell us that it has made the world safer... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m21man 0 Posted September 18, 2004 Quote[/b] ]It´s just stupid to defend the war on Iraq. "Those who doubted whether Iraq or the world would be better off without Saddam Hussein, and those who believe that we are not safer with his capture, don't have the judgement to be president or the credibility to be elected president." -John Kerry Hey, I'm just going along with what Kerry thinks . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walker 0 Posted September 18, 2004 Hi M21man It is interesting that TBA claim responcibility for the capture of Iraq when in fact it was the millitary. That is the reponcibility of the millitary. It is interesting that TBA are dodging the responcibility for loosing the peace the bit that is the responcibility of the Civilian administration. That after the TBA have failed to win the peace the commies in the US republican party support their leaders like any good little party aparetchnick is no suprise; they are anti liberal, libereration means freedom something the NeoConMen who now run the US republican party can not abide. So the NeoConMen have great big party meetings to tell the Commie aparetchnicks what to think and speak in slogans. Freedom will will win in the end and we will see the USA once more with a free democratic government. John F. Kerry will be the US President that emerges from the elections this fall. Kind Regards Walker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akira 0 Posted September 18, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Why don't you explain how US troops in South Korea are going to be able to do anything about North Korea's nuclear ability? Aggressive military action is not the way to deal with a large military backed up by nuclear weapons. You forget that N. Korea didn't HAVE nuclear weapons until recently when Bush turned his back on N. Korea. They were pursuing, but they had none. Quote[/b] ]He espoused the idea of getting rid of the problem before it got out of hand. Really? Like it has with N. Korea? Or like it never was with Iraq? You DO read what you write don't you? Quote[/b] ]A new report (Check the NY Times) indicates that Iraq would certainly have aggressively pursued WMDs had sanctions been lifted. Fucking bullshit. Now we are going that MIGHT HAVE POSSIBLY COULD HAVE happened? No one knows shit about what MIGHT have happened. So don't even go there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted September 18, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Hey, I'm just going along with what Kerry thinks As you have to borrow opinions from others to answer a post I assume you don´t have an own opinion right ? Poor boy...can someone give him some bucks to buy him an own opinion ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apollo 0 Posted September 18, 2004 Bah ,the only reason that i'm pro-Kerry is because he is a multilatteralist. But i really resent the fact that both Bush and Kerry are member of the same Freemason guild. (Skull & bones) I see that as bankrupcy of a democracy ,its known that about 90% of Freemasons giulds are about clientilism and Friends-politics ,just a stepping stone to promote yourself into politics. It would be weird if it would be an anti-christianity religios free masons guild anyway ,given the background of a member like G.W.Bush. Â Land of opportunity's yes ,but not on the basis of qualifications ,but on the basis of networking and friends politics.Sad state for such a long lived democracy ,i wonder if any of the presidential candidate's has real integrity.In any case ,kerry seems to me as always been a man with more ambition than qualifications ,just like G.W Bush.Whether you vote bush or kerry ,you vote a freemason into politics ,Skull & Bones are deffinatly going to win these ellections Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob2002 0 Posted September 18, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Billybobs quote I wrote that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m21man 0 Posted September 18, 2004 Quote[/b] ]You forget that N. Korea didn't HAVE nuclear weapons until recently when Bush turned his back on N. Korea. They were pursuing, but they had none. They were also pursuing them during the Clinton administration, and the administration before that, and so on. The responsibility doesn't lie with the President who happened to be in office when they made the breakthrough. Do you think the North Koreans just whipped up some nukes in a year or two ? Quote[/b] ]Really? Like it has with N. Korea? In case you didn't notice, the situation was already hot when Bush was voted in. Plus North Korea has China to the north, which would have made any US military action extremely dangerous. Are you suggesting that Bush should have gone off and launched World War III? Quote[/b] ]It is interesting that TBA claim responcibility for the capture of Iraq when in fact it was the millitary. That is the reponcibility of the millitary. And it was TBA that sent the military in. TAA-DAA!!! Quote[/b] ]John F. Kerry will be the US President that emerges from the elections this fall. Of course Kerry will be victorious. After all, he was only 11 points behind in the latest Newsweek poll . Edit - Latest CBSNYT poll just placed Kerry behind Bush by 9 points. Quote[/b] ]As you have to borrow opinions from others to answer a post I assume you don´t have an own opinion right ? Nope, I'm wondering how you could support Kerry for his beliefs on Iraq when he said what I quoted. Quote[/b] ]Oh , I´m waiting for someone to pop out of the box and tell us that it has made the world safer... Someone did. His name is Senator John Kerry. Look up this thread for the quote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akira 0 Posted September 18, 2004 Quote[/b] ]They were also pursuing them during the Clinton administration, and the administration before that, and so on. The responsibility doesn't lie with the President who happened to be in office when they made the breakthrough. Do you think the North Koreans just whipped up some nukes in a year or two ? You miss the point completely. NK was toying with nukes, screwing around with a nuclear powerplant. They were not actively pushing for nukes until they were thrown into the oh so brilliant "Axis Of Evil" group, and Bush turned a cold shoulder diplomatically to them. Only then did they crack open the reactor and extract useable nuclear material. Clinton's diplomacy was actually working with NK, though they were still toying with the reactor. Perhaps they got a little nervous with Bushies pre-emptive doctirine. And also let us not forget that at the same time Bush was crying for WMDs in Iraq, NK was openly saying to the WORLD "We are going for nukes." They also openly tested their own ballastic missile (lobbing it over Japan if you remember). And again Bush did nothing. But this war is all about WMDs. Right. Quote[/b] ]In case you didn't notice, the situation was already hot when Bush was voted in. Plus North Korea has China to the north, which would have made any US military action extremely dangerous. Are you suggesting that Bush should have gone off and launched World War III? China was actively supportive of any US attempt to diplomatically deal with NK and the nuclear threat. NK stated several times that they wanted to talk diplomatically, and again China offered to help. Bush ignored all of that, and turned a cold shoulder to NK leaving them to take the final steps to nuclear power. The situation was "hot" but it was no where near the level of tension it is now after Bush indirectly threatened NK. Too bad NK is actually able to defend itself. But I'm sure Iraq was the bigger threat. Right... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walker 0 Posted September 18, 2004 Hi all TBA intends to bring in the Draft after the ellection House of Representatives (HR-163)http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:H.R.163: U.S. Senate (S-89)http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:S.89: are companion bills to reinstate the draft so it can begin as early as Spring, 2005. With TBA now having plans to draft all college kids including women after the elections I firmly recomend those below 26 to start choosing which service you wish to volunteer for so as to avoid being chucked in as cannon fodder ala the Vietnam Era Draftees it is always better to go in as a volunteer with a skill than dumb cannon fodder. If you have kids be sure they aware of this If you are dual nationality and or live abroad but have US citizenship you will still be drafted You will not be able to dodge the draft as the Chickenhawks Did Unlike the the 1960's and seventies you can no longer get out of service in Iraq and Afghanistan by the same means that Dodgy Dick Cheney http://www.boston.com/news....unusual, or Karl Rove http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin....uarters, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Paul Wolfowitz, William "Bill" Bennett http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin....Brigade, Ann Coulter, Frank Gaffney, Newton Leroy "Newt" Gingrich (R-GA), Sean Hannity, David Limbaugh, Rush Limbaugh he could not serve because he had a boil on his bum, William "Bill" O'Reilly, Michael Reagan, Michael Savage, Joseph "Joe" Scarborough (R-FL) all did. All these people sent US and coalition troops to war in Iraq, while not a one would have the courage to serve themselves. In the NG you will not be able to dodge overseas service as George Bush Junior did You should also Remember that if you are in the National Guard now there is no longer the option to use NG duty to dodge serving overseas as George Bush Junior did during the vietnam war. As to George Bush Junior he did not even fullfill his service he went AWOL and removed himself from being a pilot by refusing to attend a medical and tried to cut short his service by 6 months with a scam redolent of any NeoConMan to get himself in a postal unit. There is ample proof that his sole intention was to rip the US tax payer for flight lessons while staying out of any chance of going to Vietnam. Before "serving" Bush supported the war on Vietnam but he did not want to be one of those who fought. He left that to those who did not have his dady's connections so he jumped everyone in the list with better qualifications to get himself a place in a National Guard Unit that was not going to go to Vietnam Quote[/b] ]"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to Canada," Bush explained to The Dallas Morning News back in 1990. "So I chose to better myself by learning how to fly airplanes." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4271520/ Bold as brass he admits he is a Vietnam War Dodger. He did not even do it to serve his nation he did it to Quote[/b] ]"... better myself by learning how to fly airplanes." So instead GEorge Bush Junior opted for his dady's help to get in one of those Champaign Squadrons; the official NG history says was an embarresment to all who served honourably. If he had been one of the peaceniks and burnt his draft card and gone to jail he would have shown more courage. After the war he supported all the anti Vietnam rhetoric despite never having served there. Now George Bush Junior gives an excuse that he never supported the Vietnam war. It would be intresting to know if the Republican he worked for when he was suposed to be in Alabama supported the war in Vietnam just to verify George Bush Jnr.'s Viewpoint at the time. George Bush Junior the Vietnam War Dodger like many of his cronies in the Chicken Hawk NeoConMen who now run the US Republican party refused to serve in Vietnam. It is there on his application that he did not volunteer to serve in vietnam. Make plans to volunteer rather than be drafted Those of you young enough to serve in the US would be drafted by TBA if it ever won the election, you should thank your lucky stars you have an election to get rid of TBA. If you want to stay out of the Draft you should voluteer for the service of your choice now or Vote for John F. Kerry as the next President of the United States. Kind Regards Walker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walker 0 Posted September 18, 2004 Hi all The US Elections are FAST aproaching you must register NOW! If you are in the SERVICE REGISTER NOW! If you live in Nevada the DEADLINE to Register is October 2nd Full list of overseas voter regisration Dates http://www.overseasvote2004.com/regdeadline.html#statebystate Here is a link to Michael Moore's voter registration page it has specific info and links on all US states.http://www.michaelmoore.com/takeaction/vote/register.php It dont mean a damn if you dont Vote! The only way to affect who will be in the White House after the next election is to register to vote and then on election day Vote! Remember if you are a US voter and your abroad you can still vote but register now. The more people who turn out the better the vote will be. Get your official national Voter registration forms from this link here: http://www.fec.gov/votregis/vr.htm That is the form that allows you to decide who will be the next president and vice president of the USA. In a democracy it is your only real power. Use it. Please Note the Following Exceptions: * New Hampshire town and city clerks will accept this application only as a request for their own mail-in absentee voter registration form. * North Dakota does not have voter registration. * Wyoming cannot accept this form under State law. Here is where you can register to vote http://www.fec.gov/votregis/where_can_i_register_to_vote02.htm Quote[/b] ]Registration applications may be obtained from either the local election official in your county or city, or through registration outreach programs sponsored by such groups as the League of Women Voters.  In addition, you can also register to vote when applying for a driver’s license or identity card at State DMV or driver's licensing offices, State offices providing public assistance, State offices providing State-funded programs for the disabled, and at armed forces recruitment offices. Many States also offer registration opportunities at public libraries, post offices, unemployment offices, and at public high schools and universities. Colleges, universities, and trade schools participating in federal student loan programs also offer voter registration applications to enrolled students prior to general elections. FAQs about using the National Voter Registration form http://www.fec.gov/votregis/faqs_about_national_mail_form02.htm Time is getting short. The deadlines for registration in some states are fast aproaching Register to Vote now http://www.fec.gov/votregis/state_voter_reg_deadlines02.htm Going to be abroad? If you are abroad and need to register an absentee ballot you need this site it will guide you through the process: http://www.fvap.gov/ In the Army? If you are serving abroad and need to register an absentee ballot you need this site it will guide you through the process: https://www.perscomonline.army.mil/tagd....dex.htm In the Marines? If you are serving abroad or at sea and need to register an absentee ballot you need this site it will guide you through the process: https://lnweb1.manpower.usmc.mil/manpowe....ng+Home In the Navy? If you are serving abroad or at sea and need to register an absentee ballot you need this site it will guide you through the process: http://www.persnet.navy.mil/nvap/ In the Air Force? If you are serving abroad and need to register an absentee ballot you need this site it will guide you through the process: http://www.afpc.randolph.af.mil/votefund/ In the Coastguard? If you are serving abroad or at sea and need to register an absentee ballot you need this site it will guide you through the process: http://www.uscg.mil/hq....nce.htm Registration Deadlines fast Aproaching don't Delay Remeber if you are voting Abroad the Deadlines can be very short Register now. Here is a quote from ShinRaden on that very subject: Quote[/b] ]In many places you will find voter registration forms. Before you fill any of them out, you need to read the information available from the online editions that Walker has linked. If the copy you find elsewhere has the same boxes, but not the same state requirements printed, it is invalid, and using it will not get you registered. If you want to register for an absentee (mail-in) ballot, check with your local county elections division, as the dates to register as an absentee are sometimes earlier than the ordinary registration deadlines. Use this information now! Register to vote! And on the day Vote! or this will hapen to you. http://promotions.yahoo.com/declareyourself/ud/dogfood_medium.html Kind Regards Walkerhttp://www.overseasvote2004.com/regdeadline.html#statebystate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walker 0 Posted September 19, 2004 Hi all Call Up of all US NG and ready reserves to be issued There is to be a mass call up in November the day after the election. Aparently GOP Representatives in the Senate and Congress were warned this week. With Iraq situation fast degenerating those of you in the NG or the ready reserve who have not yet been called up or who have already done one term in Iraq should brace your selves. Sadly walker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m21man 0 Posted September 19, 2004 Quote[/b] ]TBA intends to bring in the Draft after the ellection Not just TBA, unless you include Hillary Clinton and Chris Rangel as parts of TBA. Quote[/b] ]All these people sent US and coalition troops to war in Iraq Talk show hosts do not send soldiers to war. They might support war, but they do not have the power to send troops. Quote[/b] ]Ann Coulter I think you're getting quite carried away there... Quote[/b] ]I firmly recomend those below 26 to start choosing which service you wish to volunteer for so as to avoid being chucked in as cannon fodder Hmm, Marines or Army? I can't decide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walker 0 Posted September 19, 2004 Hi M21man Chickenhawk: One who vociferously advocates pointless war but has no courage to place themselves in the firing line. All of those I quoted fall under that definition. If Ann Coulter vociferously advocates the pointless war on Iraq then she should volunteer as many other US women have and under the draft many other US women under 26 will be made to. George Bush Junior has just admited the war in Iraq is taking a turn for the worst so make your plans if John Kerry looses one way or another you will be going to Iraq for one possibly two or more terms just as these NGs are. Quote[/b] ]A Familiar Strain Is Felt In Stateside Guard UnitBy Thomas E. Ricks Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, September 19, 2004; Page A01 FORT DIX, N.J. -- The 635 soldiers of a battalion of the South Carolina National Guard scheduled to depart Sunday for a year or more in Iraq have spent their off-duty hours under a disciplinary lockdown in their barracks for the last two weeks. The trouble began Labor Day weekend, when 13 members of the 1st Battalion of the 178th Field Artillery Regiment went AWOL, mainly to see their families again before shipping out. Then there was an ugly confrontation between members of the battalion's Alpha and Charlie batteries -- the term artillery units use instead of "companies" -- that threatened to turn into a brawl involving three dozen soldiers, and required the base police to intervene. That prompted a barracks inspection that uncovered alcohol, resulting in the lockdown that kept soldiers in their rooms except for drills, barred even from stepping outside for a smoke, a restriction that continued with some exceptions until Sunday's scheduled deployment. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31689-2004Sep18.htmlKind Regards Walker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m21man 0 Posted September 19, 2004 Quote[/b] ]If Ann Coulter vociferously advocates pointless war then she should volunteer as many other US women have and under the draft many other US women under 26 will be made to. I'm sure the combat risks of almost-40 women are immense. Quote[/b] ]Chickenhawk: One who vociferously advocates pointless war but has no courage to place themselves in the firing line. What do you call someone who vociferously advocates pointless war and is planning to join the military ? Quote[/b] ]if John Kerry looses one way or another you will be going to Iraq for one possibly two or more terms just as these NGs are. What is this, "A Vote For Kerry Is Good Way To Dodge The Draft" ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walker 0 Posted September 19, 2004 Quote[/b] ]If Ann Coulter vociferously advocates pointless war then she should volunteer as many other US women have and under the draft many other US women under 26 will be made to. I'm sure the combat risks of almost-40 women are immense. Hi M21man <table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE">1116 09/05/04 Morrison, Shawna M. Sergeant 26 U.S. Army National Guard 1544th Transportation Company Hostile - hostile fire - mortar attack Log. Base Seitz (W. of Baghdad) Paris/Champaign Illinois US  1026 07/22/04 Reed, Tatjana Sergeant 34 U.S. Army 66th Transportation Company Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack Samarra (near) Fort Campbell Kentucky US  1006 07/11/04 Tarango-Griess, Linda Ann Sergeant 1st Class 33 U.S. Army National Guard 267th Ordnance Company Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack Samarra (near) Sutton Nebraska US  938 06/06/04 Hobart, Melissa J. Private 1st Class 22 U.S. Army E Company, 215th Forward Support Bat., 1st Cavalry Div. Non-hostile - illness  Baghdad Ladson South Carolina US  901 05/20/04 Jackson, Leslie D. Private 1st Class 18 U.S. Army A Co., 115th Forward Support Battalion, 1st Cavalry Div. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack Baghdad Richmond Virginia US  870 05/08/04 Rubalcava, Isela Specialist 25 U.S. Army 296th Combat Support Bat., 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Div. Hostile - hostile fire - mortar attack Mosul El Paso Texas US  765 04/09/04 Witmer, Michelle M. Specialist 20 U.S. Army National Guard 32nd Military Police Company Hostile - hostile fire Baghdad (NE part) New Berlin Wisconsin US  742 04/07/04 Felder, Tyanna S. Specialist 22 U.S. Army 296th Brig. Support Bat., 3rd Brig., 2nd Infantry Div. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack Balad Bridgeport Connecticut US  657 03/09/04 Holland, Fern L. Civilian 33 U.S. Dept. of the Army Coalition Provisional Authority Hostile - hostile fire  Hillah (near) Miami Oklahoma US  653 03/07/04 Jones, Gussie M. Captain 41 U.S. Army 31st Combat Support Hospital Non-hostile - illness - heart attack Baghdad  Louisiana US  642 02/16/04 Frye, Nichole M. Private 1st Class 19 U.S. Army Reserve A Co., 415th Civil Affairs Battalion Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack Ba’qubah Lena Wisconsin US  626 01/31/04 McGeogh, Holly J. Private 1st Class 19 U.S. Army A Co., 4th Forward Support Bat., 4th Infantry Div. Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack Kirkuk (25 mi. SW of) Taylor Michigan US  596 01/13/04 Hines, Keicia M. Sergeant 27 U.S. Army 108th Military Police, Combat Support Co. Non-hostile - vehicle accident Mosul Citrus Heights California US  579 01/02/04 Hampton, Kimberly N. Captain 27 U.S. Army 1st Bat., 82nd Aviation Reg., 82nd Airborne Div. Hostile - helicopter crash Fallujah (near) Easley South Carolina US  546 12/14/03 Voelz, Kimberly A. Staff Sergeant 27 U.S. Army 703rd Explosive Ordnance Detachment Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack Iskandariyah Carlisle Pennsylvania US  455 11/08/03 Jimenez, Linda C. Sergeant 39 U.S. Army 2nd Sqd. Combat Spt. Aviation, 2nd Armored Cav. Reg. Non-hostile - accidental fall Walter Reed Medical Ctr. Brooklyn New York US  445 11/07/03 Swartworth, Sharon T. Chief Warrant Officer (CW5) 43 U.S. Army Judge Advocate General Office Hostile - helicopter crash (missile attack) Tikrit (near)  Virginia US  428 11/02/03 Vega, Frances M. Specialist 20 U.S. Army 151st Adj. Gen. Postal Detachment 3 Hostile - helicopter crash (missile attack) Fallujah (near) Fort Buchanan Puerto Rico US  424 11/02/03 Lau, Karina S. Private 1st Class 20 U.S. Army 16th Signal Battalion Hostile - helicopter crash (missile attack) Fallujah (near) Livingston California US  406 10/26/03 Bosveld, Rachel K. Private 1st Class 19 U.S. Army 527th Military Police Company, V Corps Hostile - hostile fire - mortar attack Baghdad (Abu Ghuraib Prison) Waupun Wisconsin US  375 10/01/03 Ramos, Tamarra J. Specialist 24 U.S. Army 3rd Armor Med. Co., Medical Spt. Squadron, 3rd Armd Cav. Non-hostile - unspecified injury Walter Reed Medical Ctr. Quakertown Pennsylvania US  373 10/01/03 Gutierrez, Analaura Esparza Private 1st Class 21 U.S. Army 4th Forward Support Battalion Hostile - hostile fire - grenade Samarra (vicinity) Houston Texas US  353 09/15/03 Peterson, Alyssa R. Specialist 27 U.S. Army C Co., 311th Mil. Intel. Bat., 101st Airborne Non-hostile - weapon discharge Telafar Flagstaff Arizona US  261 07/09/03 Valles, Melissa Sergeant 26 U.S. Army B Company, 64th Forward Spt. Bat. Non-hostile - weapon discharge Balad Eagle Pass Texas US  36 03/23/03 Piestewa, Lori Ann Private 1st Class 23 U.S. Army 507th Maintenance Co. Hostile - hostile fire - ambush An Nasiriyah Tuba City Arizona US You should perhaps apologise, and reconsider those 25 brave US Women who died serving their nation, there families and the hundreds of others wounded and maimed women you also just dissed. Walker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schoeler 0 Posted September 19, 2004 Quote[/b] ]If Ann Coulter vociferously advocates pointless war then she should volunteer as many other US women have and under the draft many other US women under 26 will be made to. I'm sure the combat risks of almost-40 women are immense. Quote[/b] ]Chickenhawk: One who vociferously advocates pointless war but has no courage to place themselves in the firing line. What do you call someone who vociferously advocates pointless war and is planning to join the military ? Quote[/b] ]if John Kerry looses one way or another you will be going to Iraq for one possibly two or more terms just as these NGs are. What is this, "A Vote For Kerry Is Good Way To Dodge The Draft" ? You've obviously never had anyone close to you die have you? Never had someone die in your arms? You might just want to shut your mouth before you make yourself look even more like an insensitive ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denoir 0 Posted September 19, 2004 What do you call someone who vociferously advocates pointless war and is planning to join the military ? A 16 year old kid who doesn't know his head from his ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turms 0 Posted September 19, 2004 What do you call someone who vociferously advocates pointless war and is planning to join the military ? A 16 year old kid who doesn't know his head from his ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m21man 0 Posted September 19, 2004 Quote[/b] ]You should perhaps apologise, and reconsider those 25 brave US Women who died serving their nation, there families and the hundreds of others wounded and maimed women you also just dissed. You should perhaps consider that Ann Coulter (AFAIK she's already in her 40s) would be unlikely to be go through training designed for more youthful people. You can criticize her for her views, yes, but asking her to join the military is absurd. And maybe you'd like to apologize to thousands of National Guardsmen that you dissed by insisting that the NG was just a way to avoid combat service in Vietnam. Second, I said "almost 40", not "women in general". In fact, I believe that Coulter is 43, which would make her older than anyone else on that list. You should also notice that the second oldest woman on that list died of a heart attack, and the third oldest died from an accidental fall. As far as I can tell, the oldest woman who died from hostile fire was almost a decade younger than Coulter. Quote[/b] ]A 16 year old kid who doesn't know his head from his ass. Biology was never my strong suit, but I did do fine on basic anatomy. Of course, you don't say that I'm "consistent with my views". No, I'm just a dumbass redneck. Though maybe I don't fit the profile perfectly, because I concur with candidate Kerry's view that world is a better place with the removal of Saddam Hussein. "Those who doubted whether Iraq or the world would be better off without Saddam Hussein, and those who believe that we are not safer with his capture, don't have the judgement to be president or the credibility to be elected president." -John Kerry And before the smartass remarks begin, I'm not running for President. Quote[/b] ]You've obviously never had anyone close to you die have you? I have. Several times, in fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bernadotte 0 Posted September 19, 2004 What do you call someone who vociferously advocates pointless war and is planning to join the military ? A 16 year old kid who doesn't know his head from his ass. Biology was never my strong suit, but I did do fine on basic anatomy. Of course, you don't say that I'm "consistent with my views". No, I'm just a dumbass redneck. Not only that, but it makes more sense if you quote your original question that denoir was answering. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canukausiuka 1 Posted September 19, 2004 TBA intends to bring in the Draft after the electionHouse of Representatives (HR-163)http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:H.R.163: U.S. Senate (S-89)http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:S.89: are companion bills to reinstate the draft so it can begin as early as Spring, 2005. With TBA now having plans to draft all college kids including women after the elections I firmly recomend those below 26 to start choosing which service you wish to volunteer for so as to avoid being chucked in as cannon fodder ala the Vietnam Era Draftees it is always better to go in as a volunteer with a skill than dumb cannon fodder. Walker, I'm a bit confused about the implication the TBA intends to bring back the draft, when both of the pieces of legislation you provided are sponsored exclusively by Democrats. Democratic sponsors (H.R.163):  Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15]  Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1]  Rep Brown, Corrine [FL-3]  Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy [MO-1]  Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14]  Rep Cummings, Elijah E. [MD-7]  Rep Hastings, Alcee L. [FL-23]  Rep Jackson, Jesse L., Jr. [iL-2]  Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18]  Rep Lewis, John [GA-5]  Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7]  Rep Moran, James P. [VA-8]  Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [CA-13]  Rep Velazquez, Nydia M. [NY-12] Democratic Sponsors (S.89):  Sen Hollings, Ernest F. [sC] Republican sponsors:  - none for either bill - It just seems counterintuitive to me that TBA would have several Democrats introduce legislation that it wanted to pass, and not even have any Republicans help sponsor the bill. What do you call someone who vociferously advocates pointless war and is planning to join the military ? A 16 year old kid who doesn't know his head from his ass. ... that seems a lot like flamebaiting I'm afraid.  If you were joking, I apologize, but there's no "", or "", etc. to give it away.  My sister usually just calls them "Militant Bastards" and dates them  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akira 0 Posted September 19, 2004 Reply to Avon from Iraq Thread: Quote[/b] ]A 3 year old holding a Bush sign is a political "pawn"?Whatever. A father who had 9 Bush signs stuffed in his pants, and his son hidden with a larger sign, so that when the cameras show up he can whip out a sign and shove it into his daughters hands, is making his children political pawns. Unless of course you are saying the three-year old daughter understands the presidential race, the issues involved, and of her own free mind decided to support Bush. "When it came time for Edwards to leave Tri-State Airport, Parlock said, he gave his children signs to proclaim their support for Bush." Right. Not making them pawns. And given his past history I would say this makes him a questionable parent, if he knows that the signs will be ripped from his childrens hands... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted September 19, 2004 Reply to Avon from Iraq Thread:Quote[/b] ]A 3 year old holding a Bush sign is a political "pawn"?Whatever. A father who had 9 Bush signs stuffed in his pants, and his son hidden with a larger sign, so that when the cameras show up he can whip out a sign and shove it into his daughters hands, is making his children political pawns. Unless of course you are saying the three-year old daughter understands the presidential race, the issues involved, and of her own free mind decided to support Bush. "When it came time for Edwards to leave Tri-State Airport, Parlock said, he gave his children signs to proclaim their support for Bush." Right. Not making them pawns. And given his past history I would say this makes him a questionable parent, if he knows that the signs will be ripped from his childrens hands... How incitingly provocative. I'm with you Akira! That kind of action just can't be tolerated. That little girl deserved to have her sign ripped up. And they should have beat up the father for endangering his daughter in such a reckless manner. Dissent is VERBOTEN! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites