shadow 6 Posted January 3, 2004 I see all these Hercs and other large transport-planes that hardly ever work as they should. How about a plane that can kill Everon Cartell's sub and other large ships? Standard load-out for the Orion includes AGM-84D Harpoon, AGM-84E Slam, AGM-65 Maveric, MK46/50 Torpedos. Would be nice to see an Orion with torpedos and Mavericks. Maybe drop a SCAD too (a pod that looks like a torpedo but it splits up when it touches water and a raft/boat is automatically inflated). Oh and it should be faaast too. It is the worlds fastest prop-plane. One time a Norwegian P-3N was stripped of everything and it flew away from an old Norwegian F-5 It was doing around 1050 km/h. A Norwegian P-3C from the 333 squadron at Andřya airbase. The reason I have such interest in the Orion is because I was stationed at ground-equipment at Andřya during my time in the airforce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted January 3, 2004 Yes please, these are fantastic birds. I see them all the time. I'll never forget the time when I was at a mates place, and from his back yard, we heard a low flying plane. Shit it was flying low. From where I was standing, and looking up, for a split second, all I could see was Orion. No sky! It was less than 30m up, at tree top height and we were directly under it. God knows why it was flying so low over a residential area on the side of a hill, but it was an awesome sight and sound. I think we were in the right place at the right time. Anyway, this would be a great addon. BTW, how would CoC torpedos cope being launched from a plane? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecombat 0 Posted January 3, 2004 Yummy anything with wings that can fly must be brought in OFP Btw isnt this bird prtty much the same as G-8 mod once made ? With a cool script or was that a AWAC? @oznzac the CoC missiles work with planes too didnt you use their default Su-25 torpedoe version plane? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted January 3, 2004 Btw isnt this bird prtty much the same as G-8 mod once made ? With a cool script or was that a AWAC? @oznzac the  CoC missiles work with planes too didnt you use their default Su-25 torpedoe version plane?  That was a carrier-born AWACS aircraft. This is a land based sub/shipping -hunter. About the Su-25 torpedo plane. I never got to check it out. One of those late nighter downloads when I got a stack of addons in one hit. I'll have a look at it and the read-mes as well, I thought I read somewhere that the torpedoes could be put on other airplanes, but I don't think I've seen anyone apply it yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UKSubmariner 0 Posted January 3, 2004 That is one Evil, Evil Evil plane. Nice idea though.. the only thing is apart from the one odd mission where you bomb that damn kilo, what else will you be able to do with it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow 6 Posted January 3, 2004 Nice idea though.. the only thing is apart from the one odd mission where you bomb that damn kilo, what else will you be able to do with it? You can use it for anti-armour as it can hold large amounts of bombs and Mavericks/SLAMs/Harpoons. Quote[/b] ]That is one Evil, Evil Evil plane. Well we can't let that sub go untouched can we? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaSquade 0 Posted January 3, 2004 Indeed a nice bomber. I was just looking for some pics (maybee i will make the model) and i found a strange (?) pic: Â AIRBRAKE ? Nice ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sniperuk02 0 Posted January 3, 2004 thats a jet engine but i love these planes nice inside mmm...kitchen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow 6 Posted January 3, 2004 i found a strange (?) pic:  AIRBRAKE ? Yes I'll see if I can scan some pictures from my stay at Andřya Quote[/b] ]thats a jet engine Orions are turbo-props which means a jet-turbine powers the propeller. EDIT: Just looked through some pictures. I have nothing of detail on the Orion. The film with the best pictures are still in my camera The film is full and has never been taken out of the camera. The film is now around 7 years old. I just hope the pictures are intact Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow 6 Posted January 3, 2004 Here you can easily see the flare-ports. 64 If I remember correctly... Here's one of the 6 Norwegian Orions from 333rd sq. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waffendennis 0 Posted January 3, 2004 Btw isnt this bird prtty much the same as G-8 mod once made ? With a cool script or was that a AWAC? @oznzac the  CoC missiles work with planes too didnt you use their default Su-25 torpedoe version plane?  That was a carrier-born AWACS aircraft. This is a land based sub/shipping -hunter. About the Su-25 torpedo plane. I never got to check it out. One of those late nighter downloads when I got a stack of addons in one hit. I'll have a look at it and the read-mes as well, I thought I read somewhere that the torpedoes could be put on other airplanes, but I don't think I've seen anyone apply it yet. Check under the West>COC torpedo class> and then look for the A10 with torpedo... voila a plane with torpedo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow 6 Posted January 3, 2004 Quite comprehensive page with alot of history, specs and images: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/p-3.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecombat 0 Posted January 4, 2004 When it btw shoots its flares does it shoots all 64 of them at once? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UKSubmariner 0 Posted January 4, 2004 Well we can't let that sub go untouched can we? Â I know plenty of people who wouldn't mind! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Gripe 0 Posted January 4, 2004 When it btw shoots its flares does it shoots all 64 of them at once? No the number ejected is changeable. For example, compare these pics, 1st a partial ejection and this a full ejection Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bergmania 0 Posted January 4, 2004 Quote[/b] ]When it btw shoots its flares does it shoots all 64 of them at once? no.. and it's not flare ports.. it's the launchers for the sonobuoys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Gripe 0 Posted January 4, 2004 Another good page for info/pics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coporal_punishment 0 Posted January 4, 2004 If someone is making the p3 orion they should also make the c47 because they are based on the same airframe they just have different engines and landing gear among other things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted January 4, 2004 Quote[/b] ]no.. and it's not flare ports.. it's the launchers for the sonobuoys Correct. Quote[/b] ]If someone is making the p3 orion they should also make the c47 because they are based on the same airframe they just have different engines and landing gear among other things. No there not. The P-3 is based on the Lockheed L188 Electra Airliner: Here's a local RAAF P-3 flying over Adelaide. My dad used to be a mechanic on these in his days in the service. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow 6 Posted January 4, 2004 Quote[/b] ]When it btw shoots its flares does it shoots all 64 of them at once? no.. and it's not flare ports.. it's the launchers for the sonobuoys Ok. I was told by someone who works there (spare-parts-div) that they could also be used as flare-launchers. I just learned that last summer a Norwegian Orion launched flares for the first time  We've never had flares for Orions before I'm not sure if we got any missiles for it. All I know is that we got some torpedos (probably pre-WWII) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drewb99 0 Posted January 4, 2004 Should you be attacked by U-boats, you'll be ready Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bergmania 0 Posted January 4, 2004 Quote[/b] ]I was told by someone who works there (spare-parts-div) that they could also be used as flare-launchers. Well yes.. but not the anti-missile flare .. more like large parachute flares to light up the night sky.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMarshal=TOB= 0 Posted January 4, 2004 Nice idea though.. the only thing is apart from the one odd mission where you bomb that damn kilo, what else will you be able to do with it? You can use it for anti-armour as it can hold large amounts of bombs and Mavericks/SLAMs/Harpoons. Quote[/b] ]That is one Evil, Evil  Evil plane. Well we can't let that sub go untouched can we?  I do have a correction for you on this bro...They can hold bombs, but large amounts? No they can not hold large amounts of bombs...it is outfitted to carry enough ordinance to protect itself and MAYBE drop a torpedo on an enemy sub if need be. Th P-3 is primarily a sub finder and in some modified versions Air intel. I work around P-3's alot and converse with the Mechs on a frequent basis due to our hangers being next to each other here on base. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bergmania 0 Posted January 4, 2004 Quote[/b] ]You can use it for anti-armour Maybe not anti-armour but they have fired SLAMs against Serb land targets Quote[/b] ].it is outfitted to carry enough ordinance to protect itself and MAYBE drop a torpedo on an enemy sub if need be. Hmm Protect itself from what?? it can't carry any AA missiles... It is designed to do long ASW patrols, find enemy subs and kill them. Loads of p-3 info http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/p-3.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow 6 Posted January 4, 2004 Okay, "large amounts" is relative.  But still it can hold 4 MK-84s on wing pylons alone. Not 100% sure how much you can cram into the bomb-bay. I think it has hard-points for 8 MK-82s or 8 MK50 Torpedos. Remember like Bergmania said; The Orions primary use is Seek and Destroy subs. Not look for them and protect itself from them if necessarry  It has also been used for taking out hardened installations and armour from very long ranges too using Slams and Harpoons. I said it can be used for anti-armour because it can carry (atleast) 4 Mavericks on external pylons.... and a tank would look nice after hit by a SLAM either I suppose ;) I think there is something wrong with the fuel-specs on that page you and I posted, Bergmania. I know for sure the Norwegian P-3Cs can stay airborne without external tank for up to 24 hours and 36 with external tanks. The longest trip the have been on lasted 16 hours without refueling. I think it had something to do with peacetime-laws that prevented it to stay any longer before refueling (mimimum amount of fuel left). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites