One 0 Posted November 5, 2003 I've always wanted a flaming Sea King wreck. that would be awsome does the canadian military still use its ch-47s? chinooks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GODSMACK 0 Posted November 5, 2003 hopefully, then well have anouther thing to reskin in USMC textures Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gazoo 0 Posted November 5, 2003 The Canadian Military doesn't use CH-47 anymore. The Canadian government in its infinite wisdom sold them all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrZig 0 Posted November 5, 2003 Yay! My Canadians are getting reinforcments in afghanistan in ofp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wick_105 0 Posted November 5, 2003 I dont why you yanks put soo much into the blackhawk...or as one guy told me in fort Bening(spelling?) they like to call them crashhawks. I cant wait for the griffon...I will never forget the first time I was in one zipping around LFCATC Meaford just above the tree tops...dropping water ballons on 56fd's gun position, good times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
One 0 Posted November 6, 2003 hahaha, the blackhawk is a great, versatile helocopter, but if thats what ur doing in canada's 412's..............no wonder people say the things they do about our military Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted November 6, 2003 Wow, nice work Powerslide. Looks good! But theres something just not right about four blades on a Huey. That's kinda why they introduced the Blackhawk. I don't wanna be seen as a nag, but I think that the Griffons tail rotor only has two rotors, not four, and (please don't hurt me) the model seems to lack the wings/stabilisers, as shown in the following picture. http://acam.ednet.ns.ca/newslet/sept2002/grif.jpg A few little touch ups that should make the chopper a definite quality peice of work. Â I know these things, it is not quite finished, those are alpha pics. That's cool, I just didn't know the pics were alpha. And for an alpha, thats damn good lookng work. Â You ought to be congratulated! Quote[/b] ]Quote (ozanzac @ Nov. 05 2003,07:20) Quote[/b] ]Wow, nice work Powerslide. Looks good! Â But theres something just not right about four blades on a Huey. That's kinda why they introduced the Blackhawk. Â The Standard Huey is a Bell 204/205. Its got a semi rigid rotor system and 1 engine. The rotor which makes a hell of a thump. Makes it rather hard to do anything quietly. So its rarely used anymore. Plus the airframes are getting older, parts are harder to find ect ect ect. The Twin Huey is a bell 212. Same rotor system as the original huey with 2 engines. Similar to a 412 but only in a few area's. The 412 is a 4 bladed rigid rotor system powered by 2 engines. The advantage of this sytem is the aircraft becomes much more agile with the rigid rotor system, it can fly faster, the blade disc becomes slightly smaller allowing the machine to operate in tighter area's. So although the 412 looks like a huey with 4 blades it isn't. Note, wink on post! I'm just saying, after seeing two blade rotors on Hueys in pictures dating back to Vietnam, it's a bit strange to see 4 blades on what is essentially, a Huey Airframe. Compare a pic between a 212 and a 412 and a 412 looks kinda more like a Lynx than a Huey. Believe me, I know the Huey has evolved quite a bit since it's inception way back in what?, the mid 50's as the XH-40, yet still varients are being procured, which begs to ask the question, were the canadian 412's new airframe or remanufactured? Making a USMC version of a griffon would be pointless, seeing as the marines would be getting UH-1Y's, which do have a 4 bladed tailrotor, have AH-1W looking exhausts and little Vertical Stabilisers on the horizontal stabilisers, as shown in pic below. Which, uptop, looks very different from a griffon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Powerslide 0 Posted November 6, 2003 No question that's a great looking bird. My model would adapt easily to it however I have no interest in doing USMC addons, there are plenty of guys making excellent quality stuff as it is. For the amount of work it is especially for our little team I just don't have the time to do more then Canadian stuff. If you look at the BAS choppers and what not they have like 4-5 guys working on a chopper, one doing models, one doing textures, one doing coding. For this it's only myself as the other team guys don't have the time. If a reputable mod wanted my model to make into something like that I'm sure something could be worked out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted November 6, 2003 My model would adapt easily to it however I have no interest in doing USMC addons, there are plenty of guys making excellent quality stuff as it is. For the amount of work it is especially for our little team I just don't have the time to do more then Canadian stuff. Oh absolutely. Theirs not really much point on seperate teams making addons for the same services. Keep churning out new, individualistic gear. That way we as addon users don't have to make decisions on what to keep, Like the toss up between NO's and Airwolf's mi-2's. Heck, I'd be peeved if someone asked me to ake a kiwi variant of an Australian unit, so I definantly understand your position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianTerror 0 Posted November 6, 2003 This is what the feedback sounds like when a Canadian Addon is shown in alpha/beta stage... "oh thats a nice Griffon. Now make a U.S version as we have no interest in your canuck version" Same with the LAV's before... "Oh ya thats nice LAV...now make a Stryker version as we have no interest in dloading your CAF addons or using your crew." "Nice thread about a new ONS helicopter addon. Instead, lets talk about MARPAT marines as they have nothing to do with anything in this topic at all" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted November 6, 2003 Just to make my private point public Canadian Terror It is rude how some people are so demanditive.............. ONS are workin their asses off to make new units, and instead of appreciating what's on offer, people moan "Oh, I wish that was in 'insert name here' colors., so I could use it in my missions, or use it in conjunction with someone elses work" People, they have better things to do than modify their own work to make it something that they didn't intend it to be. Australia uses both the LAV and Leapord, but did you see me asking them to reskin their models for my tastes? No, and you know why? Because they have provided an addon that they released because thats what their mod or what the individual addon maker is into. Asking them to do something they are not interested in just devoids them the time they could spend making something that they themselves are interested in. If I wanted the unit in different colors, I'd first ask for permission to reskin and do it myself, not bothering them until I'm prepared to release it, just to get their final tick of approval. Get what they're trying to say. If you want something changed, don't ask them to do it for you, they release their work to their specifications, not to somebody elses, and nobody has the right to complain about their decision. Once again, Thankyou to all addon makers, your efforts is what keeps flashpoint interesting. May you enjoy the fruits of your labour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Powerslide 0 Posted November 6, 2003 Australia uses both the LAV and Leapord, but did you see me asking them to reskin their models for my tastes? No, and you know why? Actually Sigma has an Aussie ASLAV already done. I think he gave it to ADF to release. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted November 6, 2003 Australia uses both the LAV and Leapord, but did you see me asking them to reskin their models for my tastes? No, and you know why? Actually Sigma has an Aussie ASLAV already done. I think he gave it to ADF to release. Really, thats awfully generous of him................... Why'd he do that? surely somone at the ADF mod could have reskinned it themselves! He he. Wow, I'm speechless to be honest. How long does a reskin for sigma usually take? There must be at least a few hours of work involved. Anyway, are the Canadian Griffons in real life new airframes or were they upgraded Hueys? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cpt. FrostBite 0 Posted November 6, 2003 Awesome looking addon. Looks very promising. I would also encourage anyone with the right skills to edit this one to the UH-1Y. A USMC chopper is VERY welcome. Don't worry, I'll still DL your version powerslide, because it looks damn good. I'm nt sure about any weapons on the canadian, but the USMC has version with the FFAR pods (like in the picture) and a .50mg on both sides (much like the good old huey). A version with pods and MG is perfectly possible in OFP. An armed canadian version would also be very welcome (if any excists in RL) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pang 0 Posted November 6, 2003 keep the good work up, powerslide. here´s a ressource website incase anyone needs some info on the huey versions http://www.vectorsite.net/avhuey.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
