Jinef 2 Posted April 5, 2003 http://www.news24.com/News24....00.html Hmm, what do you think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted April 5, 2003 could be a combination of accidents or hijacking or murder for the money and cars. Who knows. There are indeed extremists in this region and this makes it a bit tricky. We are talking about huge desert regions here. If they were kidnapped it´s a bit strange that there was no ransom demanded or public informed. I mean february - > april is quite a long time. I think they were killed and robbed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted April 5, 2003 they're dead .... what the heck were they doing in southern Sahara far from touristic routes ? several possibilities : - they crossed the path of a bunch of smugglers/drug dealers and have been : - killed - mugged and raped in the middle of nowhere - both - they crossed the path of the islamic guerilla and have been - considered as infidels , tortured and then killed - considered as spies and same as above - considered as governmental representatives and same as above - they crossed the path of the army and have been : - executed for being spies - executed for being terrorists - executed for being where they shoudln't have been - arrested and still in detention in some algerian army outpost - they stepped in guarded governmental area near secret installations and : - got shot on sight - have been arrested , convinced of spying and executed - they stepped in radioactive former-french nuclear test-zone - they got lost in the middle of nowhere and died of dehydratation - they had a car accident Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jinef 2 Posted April 5, 2003 What lovely optimistic comments from the continent I'll just quietly slit my wrists now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted April 5, 2003 algeria is not a place i would spend my hollydays in , its got a nice littoral and all , but once you get over the bled and the cultivated regions it's mainly a desert with over-violent governmental forces , islamic extremists and criminals of all kinds and believe me , i know what i'm saying , my father has been here during the independance war , and i've been there to for joint "work" between french and algerian governments most people here are nice but still , the insecurity feeling is huge in algeria Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted April 5, 2003 i suspect the last two... CNN also had an article about this, and my guess is that they got lost and died to dehydration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted April 5, 2003 It´s pretty stupid to go alone intoi the desert there. Some people should read more books and newspapers before they want to have an unique life experience. I don´t feel sorry for them. Either they were stupid or arrogant or both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted April 5, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Balschoiw @ April 06 2003,00:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It´s pretty stupid to go alone intoi the desert there. Some people should read more books and newspapers before they want to have an unique life experience. I don´t feel sorry for them. Either they were stupid or arrogant or both.<span id='postcolor'> ever heard about military field intelligence ? that was maybe what they were there for Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted April 5, 2003 anyway , there are three main possibilities : the car accident , the bullets , the dehydratation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceFire 0 Posted April 5, 2003 Hey ran, I'm assuming those guys in your sig pic are Legionnaires. Who are those guys wearing the red berets? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted April 5, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">anyway , there are three main possibilities : the car accident , the bullets , the dehydratation <span id='postcolor'> and the sun of course Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STS_SolidSnake 0 Posted April 5, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ April 06 2003,00:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">algeria is not a place i would spend my hollydays in , its got a nice littoral and all , but once you get over the bled and the cultivated regions it's mainly a desert with over-violent governmental forces , islamic extremists and criminals of all kinds and believe me , i know what i'm saying , my father has been here during the independance war , and i've been there to for joint "work" between french and algerian governments most people here are nice but still , the insecurity feeling is huge in algeria<span id='postcolor'> hmm and i am going to spend my holidays in algeria in a couple of months.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted April 5, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (STS_SolidSnake @ April 06 2003,00:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">8--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ April 06 2003,008)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">algeria is not a place i would spend my hollydays in , its got a nice littoral and all , but once you get over the bled and the cultivated regions it's mainly a desert with over-violent governmental forces , islamic extremists and criminals of all kinds and believe me , i know what i'm saying , my father has been here during the independance war , and i've been there to for joint "work" between french and algerian governments most people here are nice but still , the insecurity feeling is huge in algeria<span id='postcolor'> hmm and i am going to spend my holidays in algeria in a couple of months....<span id='postcolor'> never ever leave frequented touristic routes and keep all your ID papers as near as possible , always keep the number of your country's embassy in algeria on you with a cellular phone around Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted April 5, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (IceFire @ April 06 2003,00:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey ran, I'm assuming those guys in your sig pic are Legionnaires. Who are those guys wearing the red berets?<span id='postcolor'> those are wild strawberries Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted April 5, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Balschoiw @ April 06 2003,00:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">anyway , there are three main possibilities : the car accident , the bullets , the dehydratation <span id='postcolor'> and the sun of course<span id='postcolor'> here comes the sun lalalala , here comes the sun ... it's alright lalalala Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArchangelSKT 0 Posted April 6, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (STS_SolidSnake @ April 06 2003,00:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">8--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ April 06 2003,008)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">algeria is not a place i would spend my hollydays in , its got a nice littoral and all , but once you get over the bled and the cultivated regions it's mainly a desert with over-violent governmental forces , islamic extremists and criminals of all kinds and believe me , i know what i'm saying , my father has been here during the independance war , and i've been there to for joint "work" between french and algerian governments most people here are nice but still , the insecurity feeling is huge in algeria<span id='postcolor'> hmm and i am going to spend my holidays in algeria in a couple of months....<span id='postcolor'> Oh I wouldn`t have the guts to go there on a holiday...maybe with an armed operation with a battalion but not on holiday..lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted May 14, 2003 Background info: Right now there are 4 algerian men facing court in germany. They have been arrested because they planned a bomb attack here in germany. There seem to be links to AQ. A lot of people here think that the german tourists who have been kidnapped are used to free the 4 algerian terrorist suspects from jail. It´s a bit surprising that some of the tourists are "found" during the presence of the german foreign minister in Algeria. Looks like the government paid some money for their release. It´s also interesting that the chief of german BND is in Algeria at the moment. There are suspicions that some of the tourists have been taken to Mali. EDIT: Germany probably will send GSG9 to Algeria to free the remaining hostages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted May 14, 2003 Update. Quote: </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Algeria is concerned a possible kidnapping will hurt the country's struggling tourism industry.<span id='postcolor'> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jinef 2 Posted May 14, 2003 Huh, good to see some people are okay. Hopefully it won't come to special forces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOB 0 Posted May 14, 2003 I dont know about the Germans held prisoner, but the Swede got released. And i agree why do you go to celebrate your holiday in Algeria? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites