Animals of the battlefield

[brgnorway 0]

Yep, this is an effort to save the "political Iraq-thread" from monkeys and dolphins. However, the topic at hand should also provide some interest due to the fact that animals are valuable resources in most armies around the world. Most topics in this forum concentrate on politics, weaponry, special units etc. - and now the time have come for reviewing the animals role!

My first contribution is this:

Terriers recruited for hi-tech rescue role

(by the way - the one in the middle of the photograph looks like a welsh terrier - like the one I have myself)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/2611625.stm

Could this be a solution for rescuing after future 911's?

[IceFire 0]

Not only that, the U.S. Navy is now training dolphins to locate and tag mines in the waters off Irak.

I just read an article on it in MSN.com with some cool pictures.

[IceFire 0]

Here is a link.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/890520_asp.htm

[madmedic 0]

There were quite a few SAR dogs used in the aftermath of 9/11, and the Oklahoma City bombing

The small terriers sounds like a good idea for rubble searching missions.

Dogs have contributed to the Armed Forces of many nations:

War Dogs

The link below actually names many dogs who served (some even from the American Civil War):

Memorial for some of the dogs who served the U.S. Military

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Nearly 4000 dogs served in Vietnam and saved up to 10,000 American servicemen through their scouting and sentry duties. When withdrawing from Vietnam in 1973, the military classified the dogs as surplus equipment to be left behind during evacuation. Many dogs were left with South Vietnamese allies who were afraid of the dogs and didn't know how to handle them. Many of the dogs were euthanized, and many more perished at the hands of their inexperienced South Vietnamese handlers. Only a handful of Vietnam war dogs made it back to the United States. Many handlers and trainers who worked with these dogs were traumatized by having to leave their faithful companions behind, stating that the dogs saved their lives and often did more work than they did.<span id='postcolor'>

[madmedic 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (IceFire @ Mar. 27 2003,04:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Not only that, the U.S. Navy is now training dolphins to locate and tag mines in the waters off Irak.

I just read an article on it in MSN.com with some cool pictures.<span id='postcolor'>

Actually, those dolphins have been trained to do that for a long time....they are actually "on the job" in IRAQ

Not the first time they have been used either.

[IceFire 0]

Yeah, but that picture in my link of that "military dolphin" jumping sure was cool.

[brgnorway 0]

Thanks both of you!

By the way - could you help me with a minor problem?

I've been searching for pages with war dogs for hours (until you provided that great link madmedic) in order to find pics. The only problem is that I'm not able to use the "image-button" because it doesn't accept "copy and paste" ! Can I in one way or another do something to retrieve the pics?

[madmedic 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (brgnorway @ Mar. 27 2003,04:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thanks both of you!

By the way - could you help me with a minor problem?

I've been searching for pages with war dogs for hours (until you provided that great link madmedic) in order to find pics. The only problem is that I'm not able to use the "image-button" because it doesn't accept "copy and paste" ! Can I in one way or another do something to retrieve the pics?<span id='postcolor'>

LOL...I just typed "VietNam dogs" into my search engine, I only posted those two links, but alot more of them came up too.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The only problem is that I'm not able to use the "image-button" because it doesn't accept "copy and paste" ! Can I in one way or another do something to retrieve the pics?<span id='postcolor'>

Umm...I dont know how your system is configured, and what OS you have, but I can just "right click" no the picture, and select "save as"...and it will save the pic on my PC

[brgnorway 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (madmedic @ Mar. 27 2003,05:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Umm...I dont know how your system is configured, and what OS you have, but I can just "right click" no the picture, and select "save as"...and it will save the pic on my PC<span id='postcolor'>

....and then you are able to use the pic in a post - just like that - no hokus pokus?

[madmedic 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (brgnorway @ Mar. 27 2003,05:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">1--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (madmedic @ Mar. 27 2003,051)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Umm...I dont know how your system is configured, and what OS you have, but I can just "right click" no the picture, and select "save as"...and it will save the pic on my PC<span id='postcolor'>

....and then you are able to use the pic in a post - just like that - no hokus pokus?  <span id='postcolor'>

Oh, Im sorry...I thought you meant you wanted to save the pic on your PC, didnt realize you wanted to post it.

It would have to be on a picture server, or a site that allows linking for you to post it.

[brgnorway 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (madmedic @ Mar. 27 2003,05:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It would have to be on a picture server, or a site that allows linking for you to post it.<span id='postcolor'>

I hate to bother you once more - but I'm really hopeless with technical things like that. I'm harly able to turn on my coffee machine. You wouldn't by any chance know where to find such a server?

[ralphwiggum 6]

use PMs please.

[madmedic 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (brgnorway @ Mar. 27 2003,05:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (madmedic @ Mar. 27 2003,05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It would have to be on a picture server, or a site that allows linking for you to post it.<span id='postcolor'>

I hate to bother you once more - but I'm really hopeless with technical things like that. I'm harly able to turn on my coffee machine. You wouldn't by any chance know where to find such a server?  <!--emo&<span id='postcolor'>

I use EZShots.com :

www.ezshots.com

You have to upload the pic from your PC to their site...then you can link to it from their server.

All you have to do is post the exact url of the pic in between the "" tags...and POW! there it is.

[madmedic 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Mar. 27 2003,05:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">use PMs please.<span id='postcolor'>

sorry, I was posting when you wrote that...wont happen again.

[Winters 1]

Flipper Goes To War

"Will Hunt Mines for Fish"

[theavonlady 2]

Just last week.

Please! No PETA member responses.

[Winters 1]

That story reminds me of when i joined the service and couldnt take my pup with me.

But, at least he got a good home when i gave him to the NYPD.

[-TU--33ker 0]

dogs have been a common AT weapon with the russians on the eastern front in WWII. or sheep to clear minefields in WWI...

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Winters @ Mar. 27 2003,18:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That story reminds me of when i joined the service and couldnt take my pup with me.

But, at least he got a good home when i gave him to the NYPD.  <span id='postcolor'>

So that's what my husband stepped in last year!

[Peanut 0]

French paratrooper

You see the dog in front of him?!?

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Peanut @ Mar. 27 2003,19:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You see the dog in front of him?!?<span id='postcolor'>

A cushion in case the chute doesn't open, no doubt.

[-TU--33ker 0]

hehe dogs are doing it all in the military.

some rescue helicopters have dogs on board that jump into the water to rescue ejected pilots out in the sea.

[Winters 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Mar. 27 2003,18:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Winters @ Mar. 27 2003,18:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That story reminds me of when i joined the service and couldnt take my pup with me.

But, at least he got a good home when i gave him to the NYPD.  <span id='postcolor'>

So that's what my husband stepped in last year! <span id='postcolor'>

it was a strategically placed poop bomb

but seriously "Amadeus" (he was a German Sheperd and i love Mozart) became a K-9 cop in 1985 when i left for boot, so he was long retired when your hubby came here.

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Winters @ Mar. 27 2003,20:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">but seriously "Amadeus" (he was a German Sheperd and i love Mozart) became a K-9 cop in 1985 when i left for boot, so he was long retired when your hubby came here.<span id='postcolor'>

/visions of "Son of Amadeus"

[Winters 1]

LOL, i never thought of that.