OntosMk1 0 Posted March 10, 2003 I was wondering if anyone was making any period Russian attack planes? The Su-25 was a VERY new plane and wasnt completly in circulation in the 80s. Also, it would be nice to have something compete with the Tornado's that have been made. I would suggest the Mig-27. Its fast and designed for ground attack. Here is a link: http://www.military.cz/russia/air/mig/Mig_27/mig_27.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackdog~ 0 Posted March 10, 2003 Deadsoldier is making a Mig-29... close enough Mig-29 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jinef 2 Posted March 10, 2003 That's a mig 29, i didn't think they were around in the early 1980s either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
munger 25 Posted March 10, 2003 I believe Deadsoldier is working on a Mig-29. Apart from that there's Scorpio's old Mig-29 (be warned, it lags to hell) and betas of yet another Mig-29 and a Mig-25. Scorpio's Mig-29 http://www.opflashpoint.org/downloa....1.0.zip Beta Mig-29 http://ofp.gamezone.cz/index.php?showthis=3358 Beta Mig-25 http://ofp.gamezone.cz/index.php?showthis=3357 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Kurtz 0 Posted March 10, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (OntosMk1 @ Mar. 11 2003,04:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Also, it would be nice to have something compete with the Tornado's that have been made. Â <span id='postcolor'> A Su-24 Fencer would be good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
llauma 0 Posted March 11, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Jinef @ Mar. 10 2003,23:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That's a mig 29, i didn't think they were around in the early 1980s either.<span id='postcolor'> The first prototype of MiG-29 flew 1977 and it entered service in 1984. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wonder 0 Posted March 11, 2003 There we go again!!! "they were'nt around in 85" Why, OH WHY should we stick to stuff of ONE PARTICULAR ERA?!? 1985 is just a CAMPAIGN for god's sake!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wonder 0 Posted March 11, 2003 oh... and i think a MiG-23 ground attack version would be of more use in the ofp community, because it can be retextured to other air forces. (MiG-27 is only used by Russia and India) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkraver 1 Posted March 11, 2003 I would say these could be usefull. Plane / Role MIG-21 Fishbed -- Ground Attack/Intercepter MIG-27 Flogger -- Ground Attack/Fighter SU-17 Fitter -- Ground Attack SU-24 Fencer -- All weather attack/Figther Bomber SU-25 Frogfoot -- Ground Attack/Close Air Support SU-39 Frogfoot -- Same as SU-25 this is its replacement Also put SU-25 on list since i would like to see better model with different load outs Others that could be used but not their main role. MIG-23 -- Main Role Intercepter MIG-29 -- Main Role Intercepter Last i dont know why the MIG-25 have been made for the game since its a high altitude intercepter which really havent got a place in the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cervomix 0 Posted March 11, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">There we go again!!! "they were'nt around in 85" Why, OH WHY should we stick to stuff of ONE PARTICULAR ERA?!? 1985 is just a CAMPAIGN for god's sake!! <span id='postcolor'> I don't see why you are complaining, the thread is Need period ussr fast attack planes ... *edit* Need period ussr fast attack planes ... *end of edit* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acidcrash 0 Posted March 11, 2003 he is complaining because people are saying "but it isnt from the same era as OFP is based", not because of planes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2stoned2kil- 0 Posted March 11, 2003 Hudson is making a SU-34 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2stoned2kil- 0 Posted March 11, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Munger @ Mar. 10 2003,23:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I believe Deadsoldier is working on a Mig-29. Apart from that there's Scorpio's old Mig-29 (be warned, it lags to hell) and betas of yet another Mig-29 and a Mig-25. Scorpio's Mig-29 http://www.opflashpoint.org/downloa....1.0.zip Beta Mig-29 http://ofp.gamezone.cz/index.php?showthis=3358 Beta Mig-25 http://ofp.gamezone.cz/index.php?showthis=3357<span id='postcolor'> Scorpio's mig-29 fulcrum doesn't lag here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hudson 0 Posted March 11, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (2stoned2kil| @ Mar. 11 2003,10:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Scorpio's mig-29 fulcrum doesn't lag here  <span id='postcolor'> Wow, now that model has 15,328 faces. Thats like having 10.674 Uh-60 blackhawks ingame for every 1 Mig 29. Thats enuf to make deep blue lag somewhat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deadsoldier 0 Posted March 11, 2003 funny how people can roam around houses and pick up some stuff they find, even on the web. Since m0~ posted the pic on my site, then ill post a link to some other shots taken at its VERY early stages, it was done in alias, auto studio, it was modeled in nurbs, so it was not poly yet. If you find anything wrong in it, thats cause its a VERY early screen , like form december last year. I did this to compare my model to real one, so i made the camera simlar to angle and zoom of the photo, here is result: Photo: http://deadsoldier.evilmadman.com/compare1.jpg Model: http://deadsoldier.evilmadman.com/compare.jpg Front: http://deadsoldier.evilmadman.com/migs35.jpg Front- bottom: http://deadsoldier.evilmadman.com/migs50.jpg Top, render was messed up.: http://deadsoldier.evilmadman.com/migs52.jpg Nozzles and Tail: http://deadsoldier.evilmadman.com/migs54.jpg Model right now is ingame, and close to being done, we just have a bunch of scripting to do, redoing textures. cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wonder 0 Posted March 11, 2003 Now that HUDs are common if not standard in fighter addons these days, how can one make a russian hud, as they don't use pitch ladders that move in relation to the horizon, but a plane symbol that moves in relation to the aircraft? Is there some way to reverse the pitch&roll axis in the horizon ball? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkraver 1 Posted March 11, 2003 Deadsoldier im confused. Is it a MIG-29 Fulcrum or is it a SU-27 Flanker hes making?? He have parts from both  Hes some speciels from the MIG-29 Straight nose Double tail wings moving outwards Engine intakes going inwards No tail between engines air intake or blow out on top of wings (not sure what they are) And here's some on the SU-27 Nose bending slightly down Double Tail wings are straight up Engine intakes are straight up Long tail between engines The model got Straight tail wings (SU-27) Air intakes or blowouts on top of wing (MIG-29) Straight engines (SU-27) No Tail between engines (MIG-29) Straight nose (MIG-29) As you said its a early model   im just not sure which it is but leaning towards the MIG since the compare picture you provided are a MIG.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deadsoldier 0 Posted March 12, 2003 dkraver, i didn;t design the mig-29 nor the su-27. They designed the Su-27 as a larger mig-29. So yes it looks similar. I m ver confident that my model is 100% accurate, i would actulay chalange you to show me with diagrams any errors i have made model wise. Maybe youve seen my F-15E, its pretty close too to the real one model wise. Im very attentive to detail, and speciay to diagrams, i spent a week on analysing the surfaces alone, to make sure i understand how the surfaces are. Marine even got a physical model and compared it to mine, ingame, and he was amazed at how close it is. Im not blabering, but i assure you that if you get your self some mig-29 diagrams, and look carefuly at the mig-29 photos, you will see how the nose is bent down. No tail between engines is actulay the airbrakes, again look at diagrams and look carfeuly, its the mig-29 9-12 bort 83- C. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The model got Straight tail wings (SU-27) Air intakes or blowouts on top of wing (MIG-29) Straight engines (SU-27) No Tail between engines (MIG-29) Straight nose (MIG-29) <span id='postcolor'> ok... My model has tail wings going outwarsd a little. check the pictures. maybe you should get you other shots. look at diagram and you will see that their not going out too much. Look here.. cant u see them going outwards?: http://deadsoldier.evilmadman.com/migs33.jpg Straigh engines: No my model doesn;t have straight engines, they go outwards. The inner side of the engines is straight. But the outer side of engine is going out. my model shows that. Ill get you some shots You say that mig-29 has straight nose. no its not, nor my model has straight nose. So its a mig-29. I should get you a good diagram of which i wokred from. And some shots of it side view and such. cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deadsoldier 0 Posted March 12, 2003 ok here it is. -Side view: Not the nose how its corved down. http://deadsoldier.evilmadman.com/side.jpg -Bottom: Note how the engines aer straight from the inside, and going outwards form the outside. And note the Brake, the thing yuo call tail between the tail wings. http://deadsoldier.evilmadman.com/bottom.jpg Front- Back: Not how the Verticle Stabilizer is going outwards a little, so as my model, and again not how the engines go out, and also note how the nost bends down. http://deadsoldier.evilmadman.com/frontback.jpg Top view, The airbrake in the back , again see how it is in mig-29. http://deadsoldier.evilmadman.com/top.jpg Feed back aprreciated. Cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hudson 0 Posted March 12, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wonder @ Mar. 11 2003,16:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Now that HUDs are common if not standard in fighter addons these days, how can one make a russian hud, as they don't use pitch ladders that move in relation to the horizon, but a plane symbol that moves in relation to the aircraft? Is there some way to reverse the pitch&roll axis in the horizon ball?<span id='postcolor'> You are allways making things more interesting for us wonder, this will be a fun one to try. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deadsoldier 0 Posted March 14, 2003 yes it will be great if implemented, marine told me that he has an idea on how it could work, but i dont think that he got to that staeg yet, hes almost done with cockpit, then he will work on HUD, as for me, im working on textures still, i have the paint ready, excpet im trying to figure out which file size, type will best convert to OFP, im experemting now. cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johann "onn" Bitsoenn 0 Posted March 14, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wonder @ Mar. 11 2003,22:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Now that HUDs are common if not standard in fighter addons these days, how can one make a russian hud, as they don't use pitch ladders that move in relation to the horizon, but a plane symbol that moves in relation to the aircraft? Is there some way to reverse the pitch&roll axis in the horizon ball?<span id='postcolor'> As I believe and understand from watching HUD's in addons, these are a textured spheres. They behave exactly the same as the instrument on clocktable. Then... to reverse the direction of rotation, you could texture inside of the sphere (most simple way is to reverse normals), on the rear face of it, instead of putting it outside, on the front faces. It will do the job... If my description is not clear, pm to me and I will make a picture for you. But I think that I've written it clearly (hope so). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shashman 0 Posted March 15, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (deadsoldier @ Mar. 12 2003,01:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">They designed the Su-27 as a larger mig-29.<span id='postcolor'> Â ...that's kinda like saying they designed the B-29 as a larger B-17 or they designed the F-15 as a smaller F-14... The SU-27 is a waaay better aircraft than the MIG-29 in practically every way... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAA_Us_Marine 0 Posted March 15, 2003 Actually ur theory shash has nothing to do with why they made the SU-27 for a bigger mig 29... have u ever thought about loadouts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
