Crossplay might kill Arma

[Alex_LT 16]

The point is , Arma series  was always about complex  infantry/ vehicle  warfare, and turning it to consoles leads for simplified controls , longer development of content,  even unexpected problems, which could not even be solved (as I currently see in lack of content recently). I understand, that consoles might bring additional profit  for developers, but  they just might kill Arma as a whole.For example, why was Arma 3 such a success ? Not  for consoles, but  for complex mechanics,  huge  content, editor and modding. As a hardcore military simulation fan, soldier and PC gamer,  I think, Arma should have stuck to PC platform

[-RaG- 21]

I see your point but in my opinion i think its good that they are expanding to console cause first of all reforger is the testbed not only for arma 4 but its a way for Bohemia to find ways to bring everything that makes arma great to console and maybe even all its features to a degree.

 

i highly doubt on the other hand it will be the death of ArmA cause besides what bohemia is doing arma is basicly run by its huge community of modders and yeah while there may be simplifications atm it does not mean that the stuff that makes arma ARMA wont be added in the future after all consoles are very mutch capable of quite impressive things contrary to what alot of people believe 

[froggyluv 2135]

30 minutes ago, -RaG- said:

i highly doubt on the other hand it will be the death of ArmA cause besides what bohemia is doing arma is basicly run by its huge community of modders

 

 Thats a leap of faith and a dangerous gamble. The modders are a huge asset of the success and long term playability of the game but all of the best ones were raised on PC coding. If the game is simplified to get more sales and a larger audience, it doesn't guarantee the modders will want to stick around if certain aspects of the game are "dumbified" or left abandoned in that process. 

[-RaG- 21]

Im not saying we should gamble or oversimplify im just saying we shouldnt underestimate what consoles are capable of if the rules on mods become more leniant cause arma can definitly run on console with all its main features if they get implemented in a way that it works on console no big limits needed tbh just invention and ideas

 

remember consoles now days are way more powerfull than they were before and they even support mouse and keyboard

 

anyways i obviously want modders to stick around but thats why some mods shall be pc only if they happen to be too advanced or not compliant with the console’s modding terms 

 

also Reforger is early access so god knows what they may implement in the future besides its never gonna be a main title in the franchise its a stepping stone to the next one

[-RaG- 21]

Another thing i forgot to mention

(also sorry for alot of text just couldnt find a way to explane it short)

 

I have experience playing Arma aprox 10yrs on PC and ive been a console gamer aswell throughout that whole time and in my opinion its about time arma took the next step and expanded to consoles, now on the otherhand i understand people are worried of core features not returning in Arma4 but i think they will they just have to find a way to make it work for all the platforms the game is on

 

also im sure theres a way for them to make cross play possible even if they make some features that are too complex to be possible for console PC only its a challenge but it can be done but honestly i think its possible to make a full arma experience for console if done right and when it comes to modding thats never really gonna be a huge issue cause after all they are made on PC anyways 

 

i just like to have a little faith cause there are ways to implement even the awesome editor for console and so far gamemaster have been a good start now dont get me wrong right as of now its very lacking and simplified but i think its gonna become mutch better over time 

infact im actually running reforger on a Series S and that version of xbox is weaker than a PS5 its almost PS4 pro specs and to me thats impressive regardless of the fact that Reforger is very early in development atm

[Alex_LT 16]

On 8/16/2023 at 12:52 AM, -RaG- said:

Another thing i forgot to mention

(also sorry for alot of text just couldnt find a way to explane it short)

 

I have experience playing Arma aprox 10yrs on PC and ive been a console gamer aswell throughout that whole time and in my opinion its about time arma took the next step and expanded to consoles, now on the otherhand i understand people are worried of core features not returning in Arma4 but i think they will they just have to find a way to make it work for all the platforms the game is on

 

also im sure theres a way for them to make cross play possible even if they make some features that are too complex to be possible for console PC only its a challenge but it can be done but honestly i think its possible to make a full arma experience for console if done right and when it comes to modding thats never really gonna be a huge issue cause after all they are made on PC anyways 

 

i just like to have a little faith cause there are ways to implement even the awesome editor for console and so far gamemaster have been a good start now dont get me wrong right as of now its very lacking and simplified but i think its gonna become mutch better over time 

infact im actually running reforger on a Series S and that version of xbox is weaker than a PS5 its almost PS4 pro specs and to me thats impressive regardless of the fact that Reforger is very early in development atm

I am not talking about  console capability,  I am talking about general feel of the game. It feels arcady now,  and while it might be changed in the future,  so far it feels like  gloryfied  SQUAD with  almost none of the content. Yes, animations are smoother,  particles  and textures are better, but it  doesnt feel like ArmA, more like some kind of port .. Maybe it will change after we will get AI overhowl and more vehicles. Or with A4

[Alex_LT 16]

On 10/7/2023 at 10:39 PM, Mira Bayt said:

I also think it's possible to make cross-play happen, even if some features are limited to PC players. It's a challenge, but it's definitely doable.
 

we dont need simlified features. its not an arcade game