Mission idea for bas littlebird & deltas/rangers

[theavonlady 2]

Would someone be interested in making a mission that uses BAS's Littlebirds, and the new Delta and Ranger troops and weapons, that immitates the SP demo mission of Novalogic's Blackhawk Down? Same objectives, hostages, number of enemies and weapons types, CQB in the compound building M2 gun on the roof, egress through a narrow back alley, etc.?

[JAP 2]

Interested in making a mp version yes, sp no.

But a few problems with ofp engine

Enemies inside building are bound to have major clipping problems. I made a Embassy co op once and enemies came falling through the walls everywhere. From the moment they go prone you re screwed

AI choppers touching down between buildings or in narrow spaces are also though to do, they seem to think they re flying airbuses instead of littlebirds.

So making it is one thing, making it right is another

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (JAP @ Feb. 17 2003,12:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Interested in making a mp version yes, sp no.<span id='postcolor'>

Why not make it SP and coop? Best of both worlds!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">But a few problems with ofp engine  

Enemies inside building are bound to have major clipping problems.  I made a Embassy co op once and enemies came falling through the walls everywhere.  From the moment they go prone you re screwed  

<span id='postcolor'>

I've played several SP missions where there was a respectable CQB firefight. One of them is Aculaud's (wish he wouldv'e stayed at the forum) The Suburbs, downloadable from The FAQ's MOM section.

Another one, I think it was NPD (Nogova Police Dept.), was also pretty good.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">AI choppers touching down between buildings or in narrow spaces are also though to do, they seem to think they re flying airbuses instead of littlebirds.<span id='postcolor'>

If necessary, some compromise on touchdown location can be made, no?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So making it is one thing, making it right is another<span id='postcolor'>

Make it right and make it a classic!

[iNeo 0]

I'm also interested, but like Jap said, clipping's the problem - if they're inside the buildings.

I don't know how Novalogic's Blackhawk Down mission is designed, but BHD the movie

didn't have too many indoor scenes, had it? It was outside among houses. No major problems

with that in OFP. Which island is this BHD to be made on?

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (iNeo @ Feb. 17 2003,13:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Which island is this BHD to be made on?<span id='postcolor'>

Using Nogova is a slight problem, as most of it isn't desert.

There are, of course, the desert versions of Malden and Everon but the towns there would need some additional buildings inserted.

You can download the latest DF BHD SP&MP demo (one file now) from Novalogic's site.

[iNeo 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Feb. 17 2003,12:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You can download the latest DF BHD SP&MP demo (one file now) from Novalogic's site.<span id='postcolor'>

Where is Novalogic's site? And on which island did he make his BHD mission? I love the name Novalogic, btw

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (iNeo @ Feb. 17 2003,14:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Where is Novalogic's site? And on which island did he make his BHD mission? I love the name Novalogic, btw <span id='postcolor'>

Novalogic is the name of the company that has been making the Delta Force series of FPS games for the last 4-5 years.

Now do you catch on?

[iNeo 0]

Oops, haven't I been making a fool out of myself, lol.

[iNeo 0]

But I might make a try... After my current coop is finished. And I'm slow hehe

[theavonlady 2]

He's some more mission ideas using the BAS Delta Force soldiers:

MAF put out a number of decent US and Iraqi Desert armor and crew addons. There are also Iraqi soldier addons available. More, there are one or two Iraqi Russian-made chopper addons about.

Now put them all together and what do you get?

[JAP 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Feb. 17 2003,14:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">He's some more mission ideas using the BAS Delta Force soldiers:

MAF put out a number of decent US and Iraqi Desert armor and crew addons. There are also Iraqi soldier addons available. More, there are one or two Iraqi Russian-made chopper addons about.

Now put them all together and what do you get? <span id='postcolor'>

Disneyland ?

[JAP 2]

Got a question about Rangers/Deltas.

Going on a mission where you have to blow up scuds in enemy territory, would that be something for deltas or rangers. Which is best suited.

Cheers

[iNeo 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (JAP @ Feb. 17 2003,20:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Got a question about Rangers/Deltas.

Going on a mission where you have to blow up scuds in enemy territory, would that be something for deltas or rangers.  Which is best suited.

Cheers<span id='postcolor'>

Why did you post that here instead of here, lunkhead?

[JAP 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (iNeo @ Feb. 17 2003,21:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (JAP @ Feb. 17 2003,20:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Got a question about Rangers/Deltas.

Going on a mission where you have to blow up scuds in enemy territory, would that be something for deltas or rangers.  Which is best suited.

Cheers<span id='postcolor'>

Why did you post that here instead of here, lunkhead? <span id='postcolor'>

Cause mommy asked for a ranger/delta mission you crazy swede

[Liquid_Silence 0]

JAP: Probably the Rangers...but it all depends on the actual situation...

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (JAP @ Feb. 17 2003,22:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">6--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (iNeo @ Feb. 17 2003,216)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (JAP @ Feb. 17 2003,20:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Got a question about Rangers/Deltas.

Going on a mission where you have to blow up scuds in enemy territory, would that be something for deltas or rangers.  Which is best suited.

Cheers<span id='postcolor'>

Why did you post that here instead of here, lunkhead? <span id='postcolor'>

Cause mommy asked for a ranger/delta mission you crazy swede  <span id='postcolor'>

Children! Stop calling each other names!

Seriously, here we have another fantastic addon (understatement) and, like many in the not too far past, I'm afraid it will bring back fond memories but few missions to play.

And that would be a real pity.

[iNeo 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Feb. 18 2003,06:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Seriously, here we have another fantastic addon (understatement) and, like many in the not too far past, I'm afraid it will bring back fond memories but few missions to play.

And that would be a real pity. <span id='postcolor'>

True. But it isn't too hard to convert old missions to use Deltas or Rangers, so that's an alternative to making brand new missions

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (iNeo @ Feb. 18 2003,08:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And that would be a real pity. <span id='postcolor'>

You know it's not the same thing. Just take a look at the originality in the demo missions supplied with this addon, let alone the cutscenes.

The balance of power also changes with the Deltas and Rangers. Of course, what's wrong with winning every now and then?

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Liquid_Silence @ Feb. 18 2003,03:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">JAP: Probably the Rangers...but it all depends on the actual situation...<span id='postcolor'>

They both did it in the second gulf war.

Unlike their British counterparts, they actually had decent intelligence and the correct radio frequencies

[JAP 2]

Thx for the replies.

I already converted scudbuster with the Rangers.

It s pretty cool.

Still some tweaking to do cause the previous units i used were resistance and now it s west.  So i looked over some triggers and waypoints.  Checking it tonight.

Already tested it with neo, and he absolutely hated it .... or was that because the lunkhead kept dying on me lol

/Edit

Gonna start on a new Ranger mission this week. Also something in the way of get that chopperpilot out but smaller.

Thinking about checking crashsite and then saving him from the bad bad bad people that are holding him in a nearby base.

I ll be using the rangers ofcourse and the Mideast units released a while back by ? ( can t remember )

It will be a co op ( since i dont like my units being bound at following waypoints. ) If it s small enough (the mission ) i could put one in with wp's. But knowing myself they all startout small but ....

Cheers

[iNeo 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (JAP @ Feb. 18 2003,13:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thinking about  checking crashsite and then saving him from the bad bad bad people that are holding him in a nearby base.<span id='postcolor'>

That sounds like my coop you mission stealer

[JAP 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (iNeo @ Feb. 18 2003,16:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (JAP @ Feb. 18 2003,13:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thinking about  checking crashsite and then saving him from the bad bad bad people that are holding him in a nearby base.<span id='postcolor'>

That sounds like my coop you mission stealer <span id='postcolor'>

How the hell am i going to make a BHD like mission if i cant use a crashed chopper and rescue the pilot

Besides i m not using swedish units (they will look kinda green in the desert )

[Blacky 0]

I´m making a BHD map, using Deltas, Rangers and little birds. I´m gonna build a whole new town on desert island, but OFP lacks of good "dusty" buildings.

Is there any good burn script that burns all the time and has black smoke?

Where to D/L that screenshot tool for OFP, I can´t find it!

[Placebo 29]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Blacky @ Feb. 18 2003,18:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Where to D/L that screenshot tool for OFP, I can´t find it!<span id='postcolor'>

Fraps does screenshots now, fraps.com

[der bastler 0]

Some weeks ago I finished a simple 12-vs-12-mp mission:

12 USCMarines + 2 MH-6 + 1 AH-6

against

12 Resistance Soldiers (M41a, Ithaca37) + BMP(slightly damaged)

mission: conquer/defend Larche (Malden)

no respawn

(mission was intended for mod demo purposes/OFP-Zone gaming server)

todo:

- replace USCMs with Rangers, select other weapons for Resistance soldiers;

- possibly convert the mission into a coop.