hellfish6 7 Posted February 14, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Miles Teg @ Feb. 13 2003,10:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hellfish6 @ Feb. 13 2003,17:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Aneurysm @ Feb. 13 2003,09:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">As Milkman said, there's a problem with the crew's Ak-47SU which causes the game to crash. Why change the crew's weapons anyway, the new textures on the gun look terrible! The power of the 100mm gun is fine, but there is a problem with it which I can't believe no one has mentioned! The velocity must be terrible! When you try to fire at a vehicle about 200m+ away, the rounds fall short! You have to aim above the target to get the weapon to hit! Despite these (major) problems I still really liked it, especially the version with ERA. Better textures, and a little more detail on the vehicles itself would be good. But still a very cool add on. But please fix the gun.<span id='postcolor'> Umm... that's actually normal. You're supposed to aim above targets... shells drop over distance. However, you may have a point in that the shells drop really far, really fast. I don't know what the velocity of the 100mm rounds is supposed to be, but they seem a little too slow. I could be wrong.<span id='postcolor'> True about the drop of a shell...but not after 200 meters. Â A high velocity tank shell should shoot fairly flat out to a very long range. Â I think that the problem he pointed out was a valid one. With that said, I still think the cannon is overpowered. Â It destroys M1's with two hits. Â I think it would be better if it was toned down to be closer to the dammage the BIS made T-55 cannon causes. Â Chris G. aka-Miles Teg<GD><span id='postcolor'> Is the BMP-3's main gun a high velocity weapon? I could swear I heard it was a low-velocity one... hmm... a quick check of the FAS website only says that it's a rifled gun. I'll defer to the majority opinion on this. On the other hand, does anyone know what a BMP-3F looks like? It's a naval infantry version of the BMP-3. Might be fun to have... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miles teg 1 Posted February 14, 2003 As far as I know the only low velocity cannon on the BMP and BMD series was the 73mm cannon found on the BMP-1 and the BMD-1. It used some kind of rocket assisted projectile if I remember right. Chris G. aka-Miles Teg<GD> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted February 14, 2003 I wonder with all these cool russian armoured vehicles coming out, if anyone's ever going to get around to an armed BRDM? (Or armed UAZ or Ural for that matter). Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aneurysm 0 Posted February 14, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">With that said, I still think the cannon is overpowered. It destroys M1's with two hits. I think it would be better if it was toned down to be closer to the dammage the BIS made T-55 cannon causes. <span id='postcolor'> The cannon is fine. Don't you people use Sigma-6s addons? The BMP-3 takes about 6 hits to destroy Sigma-6s M1A2 which to me is fine. Not sure about his T-90s. Go to www.operationnorthstar.com if your daft enough not to own them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miles teg 1 Posted February 15, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Aneurysm @ Feb. 14 2003,17:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">With that said, I still think the cannon is overpowered. Â It destroys M1's with two hits. Â I think it would be better if it was toned down to be closer to the dammage the BIS made T-55 cannon causes. <span id='postcolor'> The cannon is fine. Don't you people use Sigma-6s addons? The BMP-3 takes about 6 hits to destroy Sigma-6s M1A2 which to me is fine. Not sure about his T-90s. Go to www.operationnorthstar.com if your daft enough not to own them.<span id='postcolor'> Nope. I don't use them because they throw the balance of everything off. How about BMP's and AT weapons? Ya see the problem? All unofficial AT weapons and armored vehicle addons would have to match Sigma's. Hence the problem and why I don't use them even if they are wonderful looking and more realistic in some ways. Chris G. aka-Miles Teg<GD> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLOY 0 Posted February 15, 2003 well........sucks for you......... they are balanced pretty good with weapons like Kegs rpg7/v, and the normal AT launchers in the game... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aneurysm 0 Posted February 15, 2003 As ZLOY said, they seem to work fine with other add-ons. DKM Mods AT-7, TOW, and M-46 can all take out Sigma's heavier tanks (M1A1/A2/T-90/T-80UM) in about 2 shots which seems pretty good to me. This BMP-3 is quite capable at taking out lighter tanks like Leopard 1s, M-60s and IFVs like the M2A2 but struggles against (though is still possible) against M1A2s. That BMD-3 that AKM-74 made has a 100mm gun just as powerful, (if I remember right) so these two add-ons complement each other well. As for most other heavy armoured vehicle add-ons - well there isn't actually that many, and most of them like the two Challenger 1s that were made, are so horribley unrealistic I refuse to play with them anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew B 0 Posted February 16, 2003 The BMP's 100mm cannon is not, repeat, not an anti-armor weapon. The 100mm is a low pressure gun just like the 73mm of the BMP. It was added as the 30mm loaded with HE/Frag was found to be less desirable for anti-personnel use in many situations than the older 73mm low-pressure gun of the BMP loaded with HE/Frag. It's the same thing as the 73mm, just bigger. To my knowledge, the BMP3s don't even carry HEAT rounds for the 100mm. Only HE/Frag. The 30mm and the missile launcher are the weapons used for anti-armor and anti APC/IFV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genesis 0 Posted February 16, 2003 The 100 mm main gun shooting HE-Frag, ammo velocity ~250 meters per second. Really slow... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miles teg 1 Posted February 16, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Genesis @ Feb. 16 2003,13:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The 100 mm main gun shooting HE-Frag, ammo velocity ~250 meters per second. Really slow...<span id='postcolor'> AH, I stand corrected then. Thanks for the info. I noticed also however that they are developing a new round called the 3OUF19 which is supposed to have a higher velocity, but just to extend the range a bit. It also of coarse fires laser guided AT missiles through the 100mm gun tube as well so I assume that replaces any standard 100mm HEAT or SABOT rounds. Chris G. aka-Miles Teg<GD> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
