Having to pay

[vantak 10]

So i purchased ARMA3 way back in Alpha. I purchased the largest package so I would never have to buy any of the DLC's. So why is it that I have to "BUY" the new DLC?

[Gunter Severloh 4052]

2 hours ago, vantak said:

why is it that I have to "BUY" the new DLC?

Welcome to BI forums!

Why? Because its a 3rd party DLC, this DLC wasn't part of the original package, and there are more DLC's that released since the Alpha.

    You dont have to buy it, its a creator DLC, like any of the DLC's it up to you if the content interests you.

2 hours ago, vantak said:

so I would never have to buy any of the DLC's.

Its not a membership where you pay once and have a lifetime membership to free content that BI or a 3rd party group decides to release.

You paid for already released DLC's in a package, any new DLC after that, outside that package you would have to buy if you wanted them.

[vantak 10]

2 hours ago, Gunter Severloh said:

Welcome to BI forums!

Why? Because its a 3rd party DLC, this DLC wasn't part of the original package, and there are more DLC's that released since the Alpha.

    You dont have to buy it, its a creator DLC, like any of the DLC's it up to you if the content interests you.

Its not a membership where you pay once and have a lifetime membership to free content that BI or a 3rd party group decides to release.

You paid for already released DLC's in a package, any new DLC after that, outside that package you would have to buy if you wanted them.

Then why when i bought it did it say all DLC. all means all man. not some

[Valken 622]

8 hours ago, vantak said:

Then why when i bought it did it say all DLC. all means all man. not some

 

Actually, it is something NEW and NOT officially part of the ARMA 3 universe.

 

Modders were creating content for free and some wanted to create games from it but not all can create a full game with licensing charges nor can Bohemia provide full resources for a full game. 

 

The cDLC may also NOT be part of the ARMA 3 universe (except Contact), so they can make whatever they want. 

 

Basically, Bohemia just made it easier and legal for 3rd party developers to create a "game" using ARMA 3 as a base, but it can also be used as part of ARMA 3, since it self integrates into it as a DLC.

 

So you are basically buying a "game" packaged as a DLC. No 60 USD full price, no separate game install, just a mod pack to enable and most the money and development support goes back to the 3rd party developer.

 

Bohemia just QA/QC and helps gets it integrated into the ARMA 3 engine and helps to publish it. Remember, they still have to give up 30% of the price to STEAM, so Bohemia is basically just covering their support costs.

 

I think the actual developers get less than 50% of the total costs at the end of the day. That is like 10 USD.

 

People donate more than to mod teams! Look at Patreon! Completely worth it to support hard core fans making commercial grade games using our favorite game engine.

[Gunter Severloh 4052]

9 hours ago, vantak said:

Then why when i bought it did it say all DLC.

All the DLC's meant all the DLC's currently released at the time you bought them, again its not a membership where all means every new

DLC that gets released after.  As new DLC's get released their added to the all package list.

 

      Regardless you technically have all the DLC's in your game except that certain things like driving, flying, will force you to have to buy them

as an ad will come up showing that you are using a nonpaid for content, this is done so that

servers and game versions are the same regardless of what you have or don't have.

[vantak 10]

7 hours ago, Gunter Severloh said:

All the DLC's meant all the DLC's currently released at the time you bought them, again its not a membership where all means every new

DLC that gets released after.  As new DLC's get released their added to the all package list.

 

      Regardless you technically have all the DLC's in your game except that certain things like driving, flying, will force you to have to buy them

as an ad will come up showing that you are using a nonpaid for content, this is done so that

servers and game versions are the same regardless of what you have or don't have.

i bought them 3 years before they came out. i bought the "all future " dlc even before stratis was out. plus even if its third party dlc it is still dlc. so "all future" dlc should apply to the dlc

[PuFu 4600]

6 minutes ago, vantak said:

i bought them 3 years before they came out. i bought the "all future " dlc even before stratis was out. plus even if its third party dlc it is still dlc. so "all future" dlc should apply to the dlc

as you can see i have the same supporter edition as yourself.
that being said, it says on the fine print that you get all future DLC indeed. But cDLCs are not made by BI, BI is only the publisher of that content, not the developer, and as such, none of it is actually official BI made content, and as such, it doesn't apply to the supporter edition you already have 

[WGP 91]

OP,  yes I see your point, but really I look at this as paying for mods, better quality (perhaps), but mods all the same.

 

I don't play enough of arma 3 to warrant buying it. I think from what I have seen there is official BI content in the mod, but enough extra content made by the modders to be able to call it 'kind of' independent.

 

I think the issue is more around paying for mods and the argument on that over the years. This is a way they have used to enable better mods and makers to get rewarded for their work.

I pay, or lets say I contribute, where its worth it with some mods, happy to do so. I have to say I have paid much more than $20 or whatever it is for a mod, much more, so it doesn't sound all that bad to me.

 

But yes I get your point.