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Sad. Whenever you have fighters engaged in mock combat, you risk middair collisions. Sounds like that's what happened here. If so the chances that the pilots survived are pretty slim sad.gif

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Oct. 19 2002,00:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Sad. Whenever you have fighters engaged in mock combat, you risk middair collisions. Sounds like that's what happened here. If so the chances that the pilots survived are pretty slim sad.gif<span id='postcolor'>

Yep, they would have found them by now if they had ejected sad.gif

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I agree that if they had ejected, they would at least have some idea where they are. Dont the survival kits in the ejection system have an ELT?

Thing is, these guys know that every time they strap themselves in, they are taking a calculated risk. And while we can be a little sad that this accident has happened, these guys chose to live their lives on the edge, and even though they died... they died doing something that was worth the risk to them.

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there go Goose and Mav...

damn shame that they had to lose their lives that way. comes with the job so they knew what they were getting into. i just hate it when any of our uniformed service members die though. they'll be missed...

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The things most likely were the new types of "super" hornets. But by the looks of it it was a mid air collision and not a design flaw. Would be highly unlikely that two new airframes Have a structural failure at the same time at the same place. Shame though.

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Too bad, but it is an occupational hazard. Flying fighter jets is always risky and I am sure they were aware of those risks.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The things most likely were the new types of "super" hornets.<span id='postcolor'>

Yep, they were F/A-18F's according to CNN

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Oct. 19 2002,06:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Too bad, but it is an occupational hazard. Flying fighter jets is always risky and I am sure they were aware of those risks.<span id='postcolor'>

I drive a 20 year old Volvo with 468,000 miles on its odometer at a speed of 105 mph on a highway packed with cars. I'd say that's far riskier.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I drive a 20 year old Volvo with 468,000 miles on its odometer at a speed of 105 mph on a highway packed with cars. I'd say that's far riskier. <span id='postcolor'>

But we all know that Volvo's are impervious to conventional weapons. I saw a Ford on the M4 the other day that had involved in an accident. It looked like it had slammed into a V740, and then a V40 had rear ended the Ford at high speed.

Result.

V740 - Slighty Buckled rear, broken glass everywhere.

V40 - Front crunched up (Crumple zones) Bumper lodged in Ford.

Ford - Squashed. I do mean squashed. It had actually shrunk in size, and it took a few seconds before I recognized the original model. There was no way in hell anyone walked away from that, the dashboard was almost in the boot.

You can be sure your safe in a Volvo, no matter what speed your doing!

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Search for pilots called off, Design problem may have played a role in the crash

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When McDonnell Douglas — now owned by Boeing — was building Super Hornets in the 1990s, the jets suffered from what is called "wing drop phenomenon," which would cause the aircraft to drop to one side during certain dogfight maneuvers, Marcus Corbin, senior analyst for the Center for Defense Information, a Washington, D.C.-based think-tank, told the San Francisco Chronicle.

Corbin said during "wing drop" a pilot may not be able to discern the location of near-flying planes, and he was skeptical that redesigns fixed the problem.

The "wing drop" problem was supposed to have been fixed, McGrath said.

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Well we will have to wait for the inquiry then. But there are always are stories like this after crashes. Most of the time its just pilot error.

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