brgnorway 0 Posted October 11, 2002 The man deserved it. Camp David agreement plus good and honest work in the name of peace makes the former president stand out - especially compared to Bush & comp. Carter is a man whom after his presidency has done a lot to promote human rights together with his peacecenter in Atlanta. http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article.jhtml?articleID=416233 That the prize was given Mr Carter is also significant because it is a signal to the path president Bush's administration has chosen is wrong. War doesn't promote peace - or as it is said somewhere in ofp (something like that) "war does not prove who is right or who is wrong - only who is left! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brgnorway 0 Posted October 12, 2002 I find it disturbing that not one of you cares to comment on this topic! Don't you care at all? (It's not my intention to bump) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Kane 0 Posted October 12, 2002 I dont mean to spam, but I'm sort of suprised. Normally wouldnt Mr. Fragg or TexUSMC be in here telling us how they feel on the matter? Somethings amiss... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun 0 Posted October 12, 2002 I don't know much of your past presidents however l once saw Mr.Carter on a talk show and was very impressed with his sincerity and intelligence. He seemed to have a quiet strength about him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brgnorway 0 Posted October 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Bosun @ Oct. 12 2002,03:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't know much of your past presidents  however l once saw Mr.Carter on a talk show and was very impressed with his sincerity and intelligence.  He seemed to have a  quiet strength about him.<span id='postcolor'> He's not my president allthough judging from his work in the ex-president era I certainly wouldn't be ashamed if he was. I seem to remember he was critizised for being "weak" during his government. He had one big hit though - the Camp David agreement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted October 12, 2002 Carter is a good guy, but he was a little too trusting as a president. All I can say is that he does deserve it for the work he does, but he could have been a better president Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DracoPaladore 0 Posted October 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (brgnorway @ Oct. 12 2002,03:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I find it disturbing that not one of you cares to comment on this topic! Don't you care at all? (It's not my intention to bump)<span id='postcolor'> Not really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TWANG III 0 Posted October 12, 2002 This guy is a bumbling fuck up who ranks with G.W. and Ford in the categories of most inept presidents ever. The guy was such a fucktard it's no wonder he didn't get re-elected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted October 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (TWANG III @ Oct. 12 2002,04:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This guy is a bumbling fuck up who ranks with G.W. and Ford in the categories of most inept presidents ever. Â The guy was such a fucktard it's no wonder he didn't get re-elected.<span id='postcolor'> care to elaborate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TWANG III 0 Posted October 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Oct. 12 2002,04:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (TWANG III @ Oct. 12 2002,04:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This guy is a bumbling fuck up who ranks with G.W. and Ford in the categories of most inept presidents ever. Â The guy was such a fucktard it's no wonder he didn't get re-elected.<span id='postcolor'> care to elaborate?<span id='postcolor'> not really, I don't think I need to elaborate. Well, Iran hostages is one example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brgnorway 0 Posted October 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (TWANG III @ Oct. 12 2002,04:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This guy is a bumbling fuck up who ranks with G.W. and Ford in the categories of most inept presidents ever. Â The guy was such a fucktard it's no wonder he didn't get re-elected.<span id='postcolor'> The bumbling fuck up has done great things for peace (such as Camp David agreement). Please tell me when someone was awarded the Nobel Peace price for being an American president? You see, he got it because he has promoted peace! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TWANG III 0 Posted October 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (brgnorway @ Oct. 12 2002,04:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'> I don't care if he got it for shitting a brick of the empire state building. On second thought, that would be a cool site to see. Jimmy Carter shitting bricks from over 1,000 feet in the air...hmmmmmmmmmm </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Please tell me when someone was awarded the Nobel Peace price for being an American president?<span id='postcolor'> Please tell me the value of an award for peace which bares the name of the man who invented dynamite. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You see, he got it because he has promoted peace!<span id='postcolor'> He could have atleast promoted something more useful, like legalized pot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted October 12, 2002 TWANG III Please chill with the aggressive tone, really not called for Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brgnorway 0 Posted October 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (TWANG III @ Oct. 12 2002,04:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">quote] Please tell me the value of an award for peace which bares the name of the man who invented dynamite. Â </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You see, he got it because he has promoted peace!<span id='postcolor'> He could have atleast promoted something more useful, like legalized pot.<span id='postcolor'> Well, thats the point you see. Alfred Nobel sort of felt bad about some of the consequenses his invention caused. Since when was that wrong? Besides, peace is something that should be valued - not war! The prize itself has also been used politicaly to put pressure on dictatorships and so on. I guess you dont care as long as you are ignorant towards anything else than your pot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted October 12, 2002 No point posting to him, see thread 1 down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brgnorway 0 Posted October 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ Oct. 12 2002,04:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No point posting to him, see thread 1 down.<span id='postcolor'> Some people have behaved really bad lately! Nice to see them gone for a while (twang)- or forever (chickenhawk). Nice work Placebo  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted October 12, 2002 Well I think that puts you in the 1% who appreciate what we do But thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brgnorway 0 Posted October 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ Oct. 12 2002,05:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well I think that puts you in the 1% who appreciate what we do But thank you <span id='postcolor'> You know I used to work as a bouncer at a restaurantcomplex to get some extra money as a student. One thing I never quite understood though is when you deny someone entrance: why do they allways make trouble. I mean - the outcome is given. They allways end up with their face pressed to the floor - and then the police comes and put them in the slammer. Really, its the same thing going on here lately. People are rightfully given warnings - yet they continue on being silly - even cruel! If they are told to stop they should just walk away! Keep up the good work mods! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirLoins 0 Posted October 12, 2002 Quote from the link you posted </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Berge also confirmed that the Norwegian Nobel Committee's decision sends a signal to the current US administration, headed by Republican President George W Bush, that it should tread cautiously in its bid to attack Iraq.<span id='postcolor'> This is nothing more than the Committee's politicizing their views toward the Bush administration. It's all about politics, not about peace. Otherwise, why the hell didn't they give this to the guy years ago? Here's another opinion I think you'll love reading. http://www.opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110002454 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brgnorway 0 Posted October 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SirLoins @ Oct. 12 2002,06:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote from the link you  posted </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Berge also confirmed that the Norwegian Nobel Committee's decision sends a signal to the current US administration, headed by Republican President George W Bush, that it should tread cautiously in its bid to attack Iraq.<span id='postcolor'> This is nothing more than the Committee's politicizing their views toward the Bush administration. It's all about politics, not about peace. Otherwise, why the hell didn't they give this to the guy years ago? Here's another opinion I think you'll love reading. http://www.opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110002454<span id='postcolor'> It is about the committee's politicizing their views toward the Bush administration! It's all about politics too! But it is also all about peace! And yes, they should have given it to this guy years ago! I don't care about the silly opinion in the link. You could say that peace is a goal whith different paths to it. Some would even consider going to war in order to achieve it. Thankfully, others dont - such as Jimmy Carter! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edc 0 Posted October 12, 2002 I can't really comment on his presidency as that was what?...like ten years before I was born, but lets put it this way-he has overstayed his welcome. He hasn't been president for over 20 years so why doesn't he get his ass out of our foreign policy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted October 12, 2002 As an American citizen doesn't he have the right of free speech? If nobody listened to him then he'd stop talking, perhaps the fact that people continue to listen speaks volumes about the politicians elected since Carter left office Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edc 0 Posted October 12, 2002 He has the right of freedom of speach, but he doesn't have the right to negotiate embargoes with Cuba when he has no authority to do so Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted October 12, 2002 well, he did take active role even after he left the office. and seems to be related to the housing project(Habitat for Humanity?) deeply, so that gets him prominent edge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted October 12, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (edc @ Oct. 12 2002,06:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">He has the right of freedom of speach, but he doesn't have the right to negotiate embargoes with Cuba when he has no authority to do so<span id='postcolor'> I could negotiate embargoes with Saddam tomorrow, would Britain or anyone else pay attention to me? The reason would be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites