Boris Nemtsov - Anti-Putinist - Shot and Killed

[sudayev 27]

The agency said when police arrived at an apartment block, the man threw one grenade at officers and then blew himself up with a second.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/08/us-russia-nemtsov-idUSKBN0M406S20150308

He couldn't take a strain and blew himself up

Yeah...

[Sub-Human 10]

So now official story - Nemtsov 'offended' Muslims and got killed for it. Dadaev refused lawyer, admitted that he organized and orchestrated the entire murder.

What's interesting is that Ramzan Kadyrov, who usually would claim "barbaric killers" (adressing Chechen extremists), was completely quiet on the social networks. Then as soon as Zaur made his confession he called him a hero and a true Muslim.

Update: Kadyrov now gets 'Order of Honor', soon after his statement. Just like after the murder of Litvininenko, when Lugovoi got a seat in the Duma.

Another update: Dadaev refused to admit guilt in court. http://echo.msk.ru/news/1508942-echo.html According to him, he and the other suspects were beaten and tortured in order to make a confession.

Edited March 11, 2015 by Sub-Human

[Tonci87 163]

A member of the Russian human rights commitee who has seen Dadaev says that there is reason to suspect that he was forced to confess by torture. Apparently his body shows many traces of abuse.

[sudayev 27]

So we have the official narration in which Nemtsov died because he condemned Charlie Hebdo massacre and Chechens punished him for saying that.

I must say they could do better in Lubyanka, but I understand time was the factor...

[ProfTournesol 956]

So we have the official narration in which Nemtsov died because he condemned Charlie Hebdo massacre and Chechens punished him for saying that.

I must say they could do better in Lubyanka, but I understand time was the factor...

They have hired 12 yo kids to write their scenarios...

[orcinus 121]

News on the Beeb today: Nemtsov's colleague Ilya Yashin has thold them that they have most of the documents Nemtsov had compiled about Russain actions re Ukraine and have 'a team of experts' preparing to collect further information and finish his report.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31885322

Should make interesting reading... unless Putin sends the FSB in or "muslim terrorists" launch further attacks.

[galek 10]

Unfortunately for Putin, you cannot write it off as 'armed robbery' - men drove up to him in a car, shot four times, then quickly escaped. It is obvious assassination.

In the true style of the cynical Russian government, Peskov said that Nemtsov 'was no threat to Putin politically'. Just like in 2006, when Putin said Politkovskaya 'has little influence on Russia politically'.

Like with every other political crime, Putin will smirk and offer his condolences and an 'investigation' that gets shelved once the press moves on.

It's not goverment style.

>Like with every other political crime, Putin will smirk and offer his condolences and an 'investigation' that gets shelved once the press moves on.

As said Nemtsov he can be killed in the near future. Putin would do it as an accident.

So,what I see here Ukrainian or American handwriting:

Putin has a lot of support of the population (>80%),so the sense to kill Nemtsov not exist

And here's a good case for provocation

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-5a2cxW0AAWb5g.jpg

Investigation? Whats that?

The body of Nemcov was moved forward.

And him previous position of body was washed

[Tonci87 163]

It's not goverment style.

>Like with every other political crime, Putin will smirk and offer his condolences and an 'investigation' that gets shelved once the press moves on.

As said Nemtsov he can be killed in the near future. Putin would do it as an accident.

So,what I see here Ukrainian or American handwriting:

Putin has a lot of support of the population (>80%),so the sense to kill Nemtsov not exist

And here's a good case for provocation

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The body of Nemcov was moved forward.

And him previous position of body was washed

OK, one question for you. How can someone be murdered in one of the most secure places of Russia and why were the Kremlin cameras at that time turned off?

[galek 10]

Cameras has not been turned off

In Russia there is a practice not to publish working materials during the investigation-currently these materials used in work investigators

And typically in Russia do not put the camera on bridges-Only on buildings(Excluding cameras speed control)

The nearest building a few hundred metres(noise)-What I saw with my own eyes

Video from 1 camera:

http://russian.rt.com/article/76945

And once showed the video from the DVR car

Edited March 14, 2015 by galek

[Tonci87 163]

Cameras has not been turned off

In Russia there is a practice not to publish working materials during the investigation-currently these materials used in work investigators

And typically in Russia do not put the camera on bridges-Only on buildings(Excluding cameras speed control)

The nearest building a few hundred metres(noise)-What I saw with my own eyes

Video from 1 camera:

http://russian.rt.com/article/76945

And once showed the video from the DVR car

Dude, usually everything is monitored around the Kremlin. That video you posted was from a TV station building and they just published it.

[galek 10]

Yes,there are cameras(near the Kremlin walls-I saw in the Park),But not near highway

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Dude, usually everything is monitored around the Kremlin. That video you posted was from a TV station building and they just published it.

This video was shown on 3 channel(ТВЦ-TVC) on the TV

[beastcat 14]

Yes,there are cameras(near the Kremlin walls-I saw in the Park),But not near highway

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This video was shown on 3 channel(ТВЦ-TVC) on the TV

[orcinus 121]

Looking at the join date and the posting history, galek looks like a putinbot. Curious coincidence that he/she/it registered the day after astral4eg stopped posting regurgitated putinshit.

[Tonci87 163]

Looking at the join date and the posting history, galek looks like a putinbot. Curious coincidence that he/she/it registered the day after astral4eg stopped posting regurgitated putinshit.

More interesting is that people like him often join forums about specific things (like arma in this case) and then only write and read in the offtopic section where Putin and Russia are discussed. Obvious drone is obvious.

[sudayev 27]

Not the first time here. I don't see a point in discussing with such people and best thing to do is to ignore them and report as well, don't discuss with them, don't feed the obvious troll. It's a part of the their propaganda, it's already been exposed that people join "information centres" and they are being paid for huge amounts of posts and comments everywhere where Russia, Donbas, Putin is being mentioned. Rotation is really high as the amount of young russian people trying to tie both ends.

Since last year they appeared almost everywhere, on the astronomers board where I discuss people starting to receive strange messages from fresh members (that registered from Russia) with zero posts, messages like " It's really bad that relations between your country and Russia deteriorated (etc)". Is this astronomy related? Not to mention bad translation errors in these messages. Really irritating and gives normal and more polite users from Russia a bad name, because not all of them are nationalists interested in spreading historical revisionism, how awesome Putin is or how good leader Stalin was.

Here you can read how the troll factories function and what kind of services they do offer [translation from Polish needed]

http://sebastiangojdz.natemat.pl/131901,fabryka-trolli

http://niezalezna.pl/63913-rosyjskie-trolle-w-internecie-zobacz-ile-placi-im-moskwa-za-produkowanie-newsow

http://niezalezna.pl/65122-wojna-informacyjna-kremla-pracownik-fabryki-trolli-zdradza-kulisy-dzialania

Edited March 16, 2015 by Sudayev

[orcinus 121]

@Tonci87 - that's what I meant by "the posting history". A Putinbot.

@Sudayev - yeah, it's been blatant. Not the only instance, e.g., Netenyahu has been pulling similar crap in IL in his increasingly desperate attempts to get re-elected.

Report? hmm - has he posted anything in breach of the rules? This is Offtopic, after all.

[orcinus 121]

Re the more general issues about the murders of Putin's critics/political opponents, the UK Daily Telegraph's coverage today of the enquiry into the murder of Alexander Litvinenko reports that in 2010 one of the alleged assasins, Andrey Lugovoy, sent a black T-shirt with the words "Polonium 210 - To Be Continued" and "Nuclear Death, Is Knocking Your Door"to Boris Berezovsky, who was found hanged in 2013.

An open verdict was recorded at Berezovsky's inquest.

[Sub-Human 10]

Pathetic attempt to hide Nemtsov's murder: the bridge is cleaned in the middle of the night, with all flowers and candles put in plastic bags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTgOWtji3b4

[orcinus 121]

The principal suspect in the murder, Zaur Dadayev, has retracted his confession: he said he made his original statement after being threatened with death, and the death of a friend."[investigators] told me what to say, how to say it and where to say it."

More details on the BBC.