animander 10 Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) I've been trying to make a custom handanim for an object I made(minesweeper) and I can't get it to work correctly, so I'm hoping someone here can help me. Basically, when I equip the object, instead of the hands/arms being placed like how I have them In the BIskeleton, the arms are rotated about 90 degrees up. My BIskeleton looks like this: But in game it looks like this: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/Arowe/arma32014-09-2219-22-43-56.png (576 kB) http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y55/Arowe/arma32014-09-2219-23-25-58.png (391 kB) I followed the instructions here:http://tactical.nekromantix.com/wiki/doku.php?id=arma2:modeling:weapon-animation-tutorial and read through the thread here: http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?87052-Hand-Animations to try and solve my issue, but nothing's helping so far. I'm binarizing the .pbo, including a model.cfg that looks like this: class CfgSkeletons { class Default { isDiscrete = 1; skeletonInherit = ""; skeletonBones[] = {}; }; class OFP2_ManSkeleton { isDiscrete = 0; skeletonInherit = ""; skeletonBones[] = { "Pelvis","", "Spine","Pelvis", "Spine1","Spine", "Spine2","Spine1", "Spine3","Spine2", "Camera","Pelvis", "weapon","Spine1", "launcher","Spine1", //Head skeleton in hierarchy "neck","Spine3", "neck1","neck", "head","neck1", //New facial features "Face_Hub","head", "Face_Jawbone","Face_Hub", "Face_Jowl","Face_Jawbone", "Face_chopRight","Face_Jawbone", "Face_chopLeft","Face_Jawbone", "Face_LipLowerMiddle","Face_Jawbone", "Face_LipLowerLeft","Face_Jawbone", "Face_LipLowerRight","Face_Jawbone", "Face_Chin","Face_Jawbone", "Face_Tongue","Face_Jawbone", "Face_CornerRight","Face_Hub", "Face_CheekSideRight","Face_CornerRight", "Face_CornerLeft","Face_Hub", "Face_CheekSideLeft","Face_CornerLeft", "Face_CheekFrontRight","Face_Hub", "Face_CheekFrontLeft","Face_Hub", "Face_CheekUpperRight","Face_Hub", "Face_CheekUpperLeft","Face_Hub", "Face_LipUpperMiddle","Face_Hub", "Face_LipUpperRight","Face_Hub", "Face_LipUpperLeft","Face_Hub", "Face_NostrilRight","Face_Hub", "Face_NostrilLeft","Face_Hub", "Face_Forehead","Face_Hub", "Face_BrowFrontRight","Face_Forehead", "Face_BrowFrontLeft","Face_Forehead", "Face_BrowMiddle","Face_Forehead", "Face_BrowSideRight","Face_Forehead", "Face_BrowSideLeft","Face_Forehead", "Face_Eyelids","Face_Hub", "Face_EyelidUpperRight","Face_Hub", "Face_EyelidUpperLeft","Face_Hub", "Face_EyelidLowerRight","Face_Hub", "Face_EyelidLowerLeft","Face_Hub", "EyeLeft","Face_Hub", "EyeRight","Face_Hub", //Left upper side "LeftShoulder","Spine3", "LeftArm","LeftShoulder", "LeftArmRoll","LeftArm", "LeftForeArm","LeftArmRoll", "LeftForeArmRoll","LeftForeArm", "LeftHand","LeftForeArmRoll", "LeftHandRing","LeftHand", "LeftHandRing1","LeftHandRing", "LeftHandRing2","LeftHandRing1", "LeftHandRing3","LeftHandRing2", "LeftHandPinky1","LeftHandRing", "LeftHandPinky2","LeftHandPinky1", "LeftHandPinky3","LeftHandPinky2", "LeftHandMiddle1","LeftHand", "LeftHandMiddle2","LeftHandMiddle1", "LeftHandMiddle3","LeftHandMiddle2", "LeftHandIndex1","LeftHand", "LeftHandIndex2","LeftHandIndex1", "LeftHandIndex3","LeftHandIndex2", "LeftHandThumb1","LeftHand", "LeftHandThumb2","LeftHandThumb1", "LeftHandThumb3","LeftHandThumb2", //Right upper side "RightShoulder","Spine3", "RightArm","RightShoulder", "RightArmRoll","RightArm", "RightForeArm","RightArmRoll", "RightForeArmRoll","RightForeArm", "RightHand","RightForeArmRoll", "RightHandRing","RightHand", "RightHandRing1","RightHandRing", "RightHandRing2","RightHandRing1", "RightHandRing3","RightHandRing2", "RightHandPinky1","RightHandRing", "RightHandPinky2","RightHandPinky1", "RightHandPinky3","RightHandPinky2", "RightHandMiddle1","RightHand", "RightHandMiddle2","RightHandMiddle1", "RightHandMiddle3","RightHandMiddle2", "RightHandIndex1","RightHand", "RightHandIndex2","RightHandIndex1", "RightHandIndex3","RightHandIndex2", "RightHandThumb1","RightHand", "RightHandThumb2","RightHandThumb1", "RightHandThumb3","RightHandThumb2", //Left lower side "LeftUpLeg","Pelvis", "LeftUpLegRoll","LeftUpLeg", "LeftLeg","LeftUpLegRoll", "LeftLegRoll","LeftLeg", "LeftFoot","LeftLegRoll", "LeftToeBase","LeftFoot", //Right lower side "RightUpLeg","Pelvis", "RightUpLegRoll","RightUpLeg", "RightLeg","RightUpLegRoll", "RightLegRoll","RightLeg", "RightFoot","RightLegRoll", "RightToeBase","RightFoot" }; // location of pivot points (local axes) for hierarchical animation pivotsModel="A3\anims_f\data\skeleton\SkeletonPivots.p3d"; }; }; class CfgModels { class Default { sectionsInherit=""; sections[] = {}; skeletonName = ""; }; class ArmaMan : Default { htMin = 60; // Minimum half-cooling time (in seconds) htMax = 1800; // Maximum half-cooling time (in seconds) afMax = 30; // Maximum temperature in case the model is alive (in celsius) mfMax = 0; // Maximum temperature when the model is moving (in celsius) mFact = 1; // Metabolism factor - number from interval <0, 1> (0 - metabolism has no influence, 1 - metabolism has full influence (no other temperature source will be considered)). tBody = 37; // Metabolism temperature of the model (in celsius) sections[] = { "osobnost","Head_Injury","Body_Injury","l_leg_injury","l_arm_injury","r_arm_injury","r_leg_injury","injury_body", "injury_legs", "injury_hands", "clan","clan_sign","Camo","CamoB","Camo1","Camo2","personality","hl", "injury_head" }; skeletonName = "OFP2_ManSkeleton"; }; class pabst_addon_minedetector : ArmaMan {}; }; I'm just about out of ideas... Any help would be very appreciated! Edited September 23, 2014 by Animander Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
x3kj 1247 Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) you forgot to place the weapon bone in the correct spot. The hands are always in relation to that weapon bone. The game moves the weapon bone up to a specific point from its default position and the hands follow automatically with it, the same distance. You can't influence where the weapon bone moves, by moving the weapon bone you only determine where your hands will be at in relation to it. The ellbows and the rest of the arm of your animation is ignored, the game determines its own solution for it via Inverse Kinematic. Only the hands+fingers and the weapon bone are important. Edited September 23, 2014 by Fennek Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
animander 10 Posted September 23, 2014 I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're saying. You're saying I need to position to weapon bone to where I want the hands to be? I've tried moving the weapon bone around to various positions and re-exporting the .rtm, and nothing has changed, the hands just continue to stay in that weird pose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
x3kj 1247 Posted September 23, 2014 yes, place the weapon bone aproximately where the weapon will be in default pose. What happens if you import the rtm into the A3 sample character? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
animander 10 Posted September 23, 2014 I placed the weapon bone where the weapon would be, re-exported the .rtm and I'm still getting the same results as the image above. When I imported the .rtm to the A3 sample character it changed to the correct pose, but the weapon bone didn't move to where I placed it, it just stayed in it's previous position. Any further ideas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mickyleitor 183 Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) Hi, Probably you are doing the animation process correctly. The issue is addon builder is broken since previous 1.24 patch (aprox when the new GUI for tools was released), see the topic i have started months ago on this forum. The issue has been reported on their feedback tracker. Edited September 24, 2014 by Mickyleitor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
animander 10 Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) I'm not packing the Pbo with addonbuilder, I'm using Mikero's pboproject. Does it have the same issue? Edited September 24, 2014 by Animander Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mickyleitor 183 Posted September 24, 2014 Ahm.. well I'm talking about AB, then i've no idea what it can be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
animander 10 Posted September 25, 2014 Anyone else with any possible ideas? I tried re-making the hand positions from scratch and the same thing keeps happening. The left arm gets warped and twisted, and the right arm just stays in the same position from the default hand-anim, no matter where I move it in my custom one. Does it make some difference that the weapon I'm swapping is a pistol? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorribleGoat 1473 Posted October 11, 2014 Have you tried doing the hand position so that all other parts of the model are in the default T-pose? I encountered something like this just today and I too had moved the whole body, but I believe that I fixed it by reverting the body to normal position and moving only the hands and weapon bone. You can easily try this by selecting everything else but the hands and weapon bone in the T-pose (-0.5 keyframe) and copying it via leftclick menu on the keyframe list. Then select the next keyframe and from the same dropdown menu use "paste over selection". This copy/pastes the T-pose back over the rest of the body. Can't guarantee I had the same issue, but this I think solved it for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
animander 10 Posted October 13, 2014 Hi, thanks for your reply. Yep, I tried that, even re-made it from scratch with the default pose, moving only the hands and weapon bone, and I'm still getting the same problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
