Why can't people in sim's swim?

[peeps 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A OFP soldier can fight in normal battles, can handle AT or AA weapons, they can fly choppers and planes, they can drive almost any vehicle, they can handle any weapon.... but they can't swim <span id='postcolor'>

and they've only just learnt to drop weapons

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Major Fubar @ Aug. 27 2002,15:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You could swim in Delta Force...<span id='postcolor'>

You could also knife fight underwater (LOL! That was fun) and there was that wimpy underwater gun with a max range of something like 15 meters.

And if you forgot to come up for air.............................

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

Hah Israelis cant swim at all, all their lakes and sea are so salty they never need and therefore cant swim!

[DarkLight 0]

Hehehe, i wondered why they don't have divers

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ Aug. 27 2002,19:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hehehe, i wondered why they don't have divers <span id='postcolor'>

Click on the pic, Bozo.

[ran 0]

some girls in the idf are pretty cute

i love isayeret.com

edit : and on this pic , there's one who remind me a girl i know in italia

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ Aug. 27 2002,20:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">edit : and on this pic , there's one who remind me a girl i know in italia<span id='postcolor'>

See?! I told you VD means virtual delusions.

[ran 0]

hehehheheh

[ralphwiggum 6]

the diver guy on bottom left seems like he is a dufus

oh yeah...how could we forget that during our good old therapy thread .. mmm.... gals with guns AND uniform..... of course, i don't want them to drive, but they look nice with guns..

/looks warily if Avon is coming and runs away...

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Aug. 27 2002,20:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">/looks warily if Avon is coming and runs away...<span id='postcolor'>

I have my agent on your tail as we type.

[Guest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Aug. 27 2002,18:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ Aug. 27 2002,19:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hehehe, i wondered why they don't have divers <span id='postcolor'>

Click on the pic, Bozo.

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lolololol

I see that underwater operation really isn't Isreals strong side. That gear looks like it is from the early fifties..

Here are some pictures of my old unit a-dyk, so you get the idea how modern attack diver gear looks like:

[DarkLight 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Aug. 26 2002,21:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'>

I bet the guy holding the camera felt very comfortable (sp?)...

[DarkLight 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Aug. 26 2002,19:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ Aug. 27 2002,19:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hehehe, i wondered why they don't have divers <span id='postcolor'>

Click on the pic, Bozo.

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Hehehe, look at the guy in the upper left corner, he looks sooooo happy!

[DarkLight 0]

Look what i found on that website:

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the IDF snipers are among the worst in the world<span id='postcolor'>

[ralphwiggum 6]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Aug. 27 2002,20:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Here are some pictures of my old unit a-dyk, so you get the idea how modern attack diver gear looks like:<span id='postcolor'>

you mean the ones where you can take crap and store it?

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Aug. 27 2002,21:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I see that underwater operation really isn't Isreals strong side. That gear looks like it is from the early fifties..<span id='postcolor'>

Pictures of Shayetet 13 aren't readily available.

When my husband took the photos on this page, their latest vessel's name wasn't even released to the public. I still don't know what it's called or whether it was an abandoned protoype and they've got something better already.

[Guest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Aug. 27 2002,20:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">When my husband took the photos on this page, their latest vessel's name wasn't even released to the public. I still don't know what it's called or whether it was an abandoned protoype and they've got something better already.<span id='postcolor'>

Lol! Do you have any more pictures? This is so damn hilarious (although I understand that your potential enemy is not likely to come by water).

This is what a small attack boat should look like: The Stridsbĺt 90 - I have made countless dives from this type.

It uses underwater jets and can without any problem reach velocities > 80 knots. You can also run over small islands with it.

[Mister Frag 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Aug. 27 2002,11:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It uses underwater jets and can without any problem reach velocities > 80 knots. You can also run over small islands with it.<span id='postcolor'>

80 knots??? Are you sure you didn't mean 80 kilometers per hour? 80 knots is 148 kilometers per hour, or 92 miles per hour...

[Guest]

3--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister Frag @ Aug. 27 2002,213)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Aug. 27 2002,11:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It uses underwater jets and can without any problem reach velocities > 80 knots. You can also run over small islands with it.<span id='postcolor'>

80 knots???    Are you sure you didn't mean 80 kilometers per hour? 80 knots is 148 kilometers per hour, or 92 miles per hour...<span id='postcolor'>

Oh, yes. As I said: water jet engine.

You can read about an incident here in the military stupidity thread.

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Aug. 27 2002,21:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Aug. 27 2002,20:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">When my husband took the photos on this page, their latest vessel's name wasn't even released to the public. I still don't know what it's called or whether it was an abandoned protoype and they've got something better already.<span id='postcolor'>

Lol! Do you have any more pictures? This is so damn hilarious<span id='postcolor'>

What's so funny? If it's good enough for US Navy Seals, it's good enough for us:

The Morena

[Guest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Aug. 27 2002,21:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What's so funny? If it's good enough for US Navy Seals, it's good enough for us:

The Morena<span id='postcolor'>

That boat is a joke for anything but making short range transports.

1) It is inflatable

2) Top speed 45 knots

2) Impossible to make a direct assault from the boat (look at the front)

A serious attack boat should be armoured, have a higher top speed and you mut be able to be able to mount at least a couple of 12,7 machine guns. The ability to have a mortar is also highly recommended. The front of the boat must allow for a quick exit.

The US Seals use the Mark V as the primary vessle which is a more serious boat.

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Aug. 27 2002,22:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Aug. 27 2002,21:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What's so funny? If it's good enough for US Navy Seals, it's good enough for us:

The Morena<span id='postcolor'>

That boat is a joke for anything but making short range transports.

1) It is inflatable

2) Top speed 45 knots

2) Impossible to make a direct assault from the boat (look at the front)

A serious attack boat should be armoured, have a higher top speed and you mut be able to be able to mount at least a couple of 12,7 machine guns. The ability to have a mortar is also highly recommended. The front of the boat must allow for a quick exit.<span id='postcolor'>

OK, so the Seals and Shayetet 13 obviously don't know what they're doing.

Thanks for the enlightenment.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Aug. 27 2002,21:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">OK, so the Seals and Shayetet 13 obviously don't know what they're doing.

Thanks for the enlightenment.<span id='postcolor'>

As I said:

This is the primary boat that the Seals use.

[Guest]

This is the Swedish equivalent of the transport boat you posted Avon:

Gruppbĺt:

It is also however not an attack boat, it is for transport only.

[Mister Frag 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Aug. 27 2002,12:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister Frag @ Aug. 27 2002,21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Aug. 27 2002,11:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It uses underwater jets and can without any problem reach velocities > 80 knots. You can also run over small islands with it.<span id='postcolor'>

80 knots???  <!--emo&  Are you sure you didn't mean 80 kilometers per hour? 80 knots is 148 kilometers per hour, or 92 miles per hour...<span id='postcolor'>

Oh, yes. As I said: water jet engine.

You can read about an incident here in the military stupidity thread.<span id='postcolor'>

I did a search using Google, and the sites I've found talk about a speed of 30 to just over 40 knots, depending on the model:

http://www.mil.se/marinen/10/15/15b1_se.html

http://www.soldf.com/strb90e.html

http://www.djurgardsvarvet.a.se/mili/battleboat/battleboat90.htm

http://www.navsim.org/navsim/vapengrener.htm

40 knots would be just under 80 kilometers per hour, which would make a lot more sense to me. The last link has a four-picture sequence of an emergency stop from 42 knots in a length of 25 meters.

I don't want to argue about the top speed with you, but all indications are that you are mistaken about it.