Can't lock on any hostile vehicles with attack heli in manual fire mode

[Blackbird_CaD_ 10]

Why can't i lock on any hostile vehicles/aircraft when i'm alone in a attack heli and have manual fire on?

It's the same thing if i'm on the gunner seat and have clicked on "Take controls".

But as soon as i'm in gunner seat and there is a pilot i can lock on to everything.

It's like this for everyone else too right?

What is the point in having the manual fire option at all when it doesn't work?

[spanishsurfer 58]

For the automatic targeting to work, and using manual fire, you need AI in the gunners seat or a player in the gunners seat (however with a player you wont have an option to manual fire). The only reason I could guess for the reason behind this is because the firing computer is in the gunners seat, hence having a need for a body in the gunners seat.

Let me guess, you're a wasteland player?

[Blackbird_CaD_ 10]

For the automatic targeting to work, and using manual fire, you need AI in the gunners seat or a player in the gunners seat (however with a player you wont have an option to manual fire). The only reason I could guess for the reason behind this is because the firing computer is in the gunners seat, hence having a need for a body in the gunners seat.

Let me guess, you're a wasteland player?

Ok, but in that case it should work to lock on targets when i'm alone in the heli and in gunners seat with "Take controls" activated?

I wish they would have kept it like it was in A2.

No i hate playing wasteland.

I only play COOP.

[spanishsurfer 58]

I've never tried to fly any of the attack helis from the gunners seat, do they even have flight controls? *Side note* I know the Apache has flight controls in both cockpits and the gunner is considered a weapons officer and a co-pilot. The Blackfoot aka Comanche gunner does not have flight controls, I had to check a YouTube vid (I'm @ work). Just checked the Kajman as well, the gunner does not have flight controls...

So there you go, that's why you can't "Take controls" when in the gunners seat, because none exist!

[Blackbird_CaD_ 10]

I've never tried to fly any of the attack helis from the gunners seat, do they even have flight controls? *Side note* I know the Apache has flight controls in both cockpits and the gunner is considered a weapons officer and a co-pilot. The Blackfoot aka Comanche gunner does not have flight controls, I had to check a YouTube vid (I'm @ work). Just checked the Kajman as well, the gunner does not have flight controls...

So there you go, that's why you can't "Take controls" when in the gunners seat, because none exist!

You can take controls when in the gunners seat.

You can fly the heli normally from the gunners seat, except that you still can't lock on any targets.

[spanishsurfer 58]

Well from the vids I saw there are no flight controls.

[KingScuba 1]

Personally, I use the gunner seat and take controls (Scroll menu.. it's there unless someone enters the chopper with you)... It's easier to solo if you're from the gunner because then you get the scope too.

As for "I can't lock onto targets", you need to hold right click pretty much right on top of them from the cockpit view. If they're picking up on the radar, you can hit TAB and generally pick them up.

So to answer you, no... I don't have that issue.

[fn_Quiksilver 1636]

Soln

1. Sit in gunner seat.

2. Take controls

cons

reduced fov in 1st person

cant effectively use 20mm cannon

no countermeasures

Still.

The AH-99 is a tank-killer. The 20mm is the AH-99s "sidearm".

Sit out at 2-3km from target at high alt and use the DAGR HE-AT missiles to disable all enemy armor and technicals.

Dont need the countermeasures for that tactic.

IMO the OPFOR Titan MPRL (AA) is too effective for realistic close-air support with the AH-99.

Time over target (in enemy LOS) in the AH-99 when using the 20mm cannon is usually 5-10 seconds.

It only takes 3-5 seconds for the AA missile specialist soldier to deploy the Titan MPRL AA, lock on and fire at you.

This makes any sort of CAS a very very risky proposition since the Titan AA was patched to be super-effective.

Better to sit out at 3km and pepper targets with DAGR, then go home to re-arm.

Save true CAS for the A-143 Buzzard, as it can get in and get out before too many missile locks, and even decent probability of dodging/spoofing the AA missiles.

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I've never tried to fly any of the attack helis from the gunners seat, do they even have flight controls? *Side note* I know the Apache has flight controls in both cockpits and the gunner is considered a weapons officer and a co-pilot. The Blackfoot aka Comanche gunner does not have flight controls, I had to check a YouTube vid (I'm @ work). Just checked the Kajman as well, the gunner does not have flight controls...

So there you go, that's why you can't "Take controls" when in the gunners seat, because none exist!

This is patently incorrect.

[Blackbird_CaD_ 10]

Personally, I use the gunner seat and take controls (Scroll menu.. it's there unless someone enters the chopper with you)... It's easier to solo if you're from the gunner because then you get the scope too.

As for "I can't lock onto targets", you need to hold right click pretty much right on top of them from the cockpit view. If they're picking up on the radar, you can hit TAB and generally pick them up.

So to answer you, no... I don't have that issue.

Ok that works for me too, thanks for telling this.

That's weird..

A. you have to press T instead of G which you normally have to press.

and B. you must aim almost directly at the target (when you are a gunner with a pilot you can look faaar away from the target and it will still atleast mark the target).

That doesn't make any sense.. that sounds like balancing in the game (the devs don't want players to effectively kill enemies when flying attack heli alone) and this game shouldn't contain such stuff.

Another thing which smells like balancing is that you can't use countermeasures.

Sit out at 2-3km from target at high alt and use the DAGR HE-AT missiles to disable all enemy armor and technicals.

Dont need the countermeasures for that tactic.

Better to sit out at 3km and pepper targets with DAGR, then go home to re-arm.

Don't know how that would be possible when you have to aim exactly at the vehicle until you can lock on it, that would be very, very hard from 2-3 km away, but on the other hand i yet haven't tested that alone, i will try that and report back.

Edited October 30, 2013 by Blackbird_CaD_

[KingScuba 1]

Ok that works for me too, thanks for telling this.

That's weird..

A. you have to press T instead of G which you normally have to press.

and B. you must aim almost directly at the target (when you are a gunner with a pilot you can look faaar away from the target and it will still atleast mark the target).

That doesn't make any sense.. that sounds like balancing in the game (the devs don't want players to effectively kill enemies when flying attack heli alone) and this game shouldn't contain such stuff.

Another thing which smells like balancing is that you can't use countermeasures.

B is false. so long as you have a lock, you're fine. I can solo tank kill from 2k away easily, I'll sit about 200 to 300 m in the air too. If I have a lock, I feel comfortable firing it. I will generally pedal to the side and use freelook to target, after getting visual through my scope. I can use guns easily too, by simply aiming on the guy i want to kill, then using my collective to spread the shots. Works well for me. I find that the gun is only effective 1.2k and closer.

I never use 3rd person for any flying btw, I always use first person.

Edited October 30, 2013 by KingScuba

[Blackbird_CaD_ 10]

B is false. so long as you have a lock, you're fine. I can solo tank kill from 2k away easily, I'll sit about 200 to 300 m in the air too. If I have a lock, I feel comfortable firing it.

I tried it now..

I had to look directly at the hostile vehicles for it to mark and lock on the target, and it also seemed to mark empty (grey vehicles).

When you are a gunner and there's a pilot you can mark targets (get a square) when you aren't even close to aiming at the target.

So the locking system definitely works differently (worse) when flying alone from the gunners seat.

[KingScuba 1]

of course it works differently.if you're gunning alone, the missile can simply be player guided onto target. And you do need to turn in the general direction in order for a missile lock, but you can be off by like 20 degrees either direction or so.

Obviously it should be worse when flying a gunship meant for 2 when you fly it solo.

[GeneralSyb 0]

I have done all the things that you guys say can work but it does't work. The thing that does work is to taget it but than lock on with a missile doesn't work.

I also read about alt tab but if i do that thare will come a littel thing i my screen with the picures of things that are working in my pc like google arma and teamspeak and under it it says can't lock on to enemy tagets with attack helicopter...... that is how far the text goes.    

 

I am trying to use it for sigleplayer missions and i am trying to use it on NAK squad servers but both don't work.

 

 

EDIT: lolz 2 min after i wrote this post i got it to work.

 

What you simply have to do is get some hight and wait a few sec and you don't want to be colse to the target (200-700meters works for me).

[Harzach 2517]

33 minutes ago, GeneralSyb said:

I have done all the things that you guys say can work but it does't work.

You are replying to a five-year-old post. The sensor overhaul update changed everything a little while ago.