Leaders

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 05 2002,13:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thatcher rid the country of the strangulating grip of over-powerful unions<span id='postcolor'>

That might be! Unfortunately I dont know much about the unions history of the UK.

Hey, if you two dont stop going away from the topic I will have to reset your post counts and lock this thread. I dont warn you once again Placebo, this wouldnt be the first time I would have to intervene!

[Tex -USMC- 0]

The only thing they ever taught us about Thatcher was how she stood up to the big bad ol' Argentinans

[Placebo 29]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Aug. 05 2002,14:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The only thing they ever taught us about Thatcher was how she stood up to the big bad ol' Argentinans<span id='postcolor'>

LOL yup that's about the only decent thing she did, not that sending in troops makes someone a good prime minister, John Major sent our troops to the gulf and who remembers him? Ok well who except Paratrooper remembers him

[Col. Kurtz 0]

for the good of this thread, can we kill the Thatcher discussion? Some of us love her, some of us hate her. Lets just leave it at that. If you want, Paratrooper, go and open a thread about her. but I shall not let my thread be ruined by her! This thread should be more easier for people to get along in, since we hate more politicians and leaders than we like. Since there are a lot of people who are talking about people who never ruled countries, I shall give consideration to Leader Mark III and IV around people who you would have liked to be rulers, and people who you are glad are not. Dont forget about the Aprethid South African govermeants of the past! And of course Jim Bludger(sorry Boulder! and Jenny Shiply(/Shitly). Our tow most loved PMs of NZ! NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Paratrooper 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ Aug. 05 2002,15:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ok well who except Paratrooper remembers him <span id='postcolor'>

Lol! I don't want to be forum Tory boy!

I remember Major, I didn't think he was a good PM though.

[Paratrooper 0]

Back to the subject at hand..I think that Romano Prodi (EU President) does a poor job of representing the EU. He should be out there in the public eye more, trying to show he is working against EU corrupion and for a workable EU system.

Instead he is a non-descript figure who commands no public interest.

[WhoCares 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Paratrooper @ Aug. 05 2002,16:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ Aug. 05 2002,15:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ok well who except Paratrooper remembers him <span id='postcolor'>

Lol! I don't want to be forum Tory boy!  

I remember Major, I didn't think he was a good PM though.<span id='postcolor'>

'Forum Tory boy' - wouldn't this be a great replacement for his boring 'Advanced Member'?

And while Albert took us almost all around the world he missed a region on earth with many dictators - middle and south America. Argentina, Peru, Chile, Nicaragua a.s.o.

[Paratrooper 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WhoCares @ Aug. 05 2002,16:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">'Forum Tory boy' - wouldn't this be a great replacement for his boring 'Advanced Member'? <span id='postcolor'>

Please No!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And while Albert took us almost all around the world he missed a region on earth with many dictators - middle and south America. Argentina, Peru, Chile, Nicaragua a.s.o.<span id='postcolor'> I mentioned Galtieri!

EDIT: my 999th post!

I don't think Fidel has been on his level, but he is a dictator... what do you lot think?

[billytran 0]

I think Stalin and Hitler were by far the worst world leaders of the 20th Century. As for US leaders:

Bill Clinton: Encouraged corruption with the incredibly bad example he set for the nation. He bombed Kosovo into oblivion. Responsible for the deaths of American soldiers in Somalia. Tried to put a socialized health care system in place. Signed a bill that banned scary-looking (but otherwise normal) guns.

Jimmy Carter: Really screwed over the econonmy and hurt the military (remember Desert One?).

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (billytran @ Aug. 05 2002,17:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think Stalin and Hitler were by far the worst world leaders of the 20th Century.  As for US leaders:

Bill Clinton: Encouraged corruption with the incredibly bad example he set for the nation.  He bombed Kosovo into oblivion.  Responsible for the deaths of American soldiers in Somalia.  Tried to put a socialized health care system in place.  Signed a bill that banned scary-looking (but otherwise normal) guns.

Jimmy Carter: Really screwed over the econonmy and hurt the military (remember Desert One?).<span id='postcolor'>

I think Bill Clinton was a good president Basta!

[habdoel 0]

if castro is still the leader in Cuba, it means he is the best sollution now for cuba, and the people in cuba know there better off with castro, instaid of a usa supported dictator, who rapes the country for the us economy and their mony, the people will never see.

[DarkLight 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Albert Schweizer @ Aug. 05 2002,19:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (billytran @ Aug. 05 2002,17:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think Stalin and Hitler were by far the worst world leaders of the 20th Century.  As for US leaders:

Bill Clinton: Encouraged corruption with the incredibly bad example he set for the nation.  He bombed Kosovo into oblivion.  Responsible for the deaths of American soldiers in Somalia.  Tried to put a socialized health care system in place.  Signed a bill that banned scary-looking (but otherwise normal) guns.

Jimmy Carter: Really screwed over the econonmy and hurt the military (remember Desert One?).<span id='postcolor'>

I think Bill Clinton was a good president Basta!  <span id='postcolor'>

If you ask me he was the best president of the more recent ones...

[Warin 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (billytran @ Aug. 05 2002,17:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think Stalin and Hitler were by far the worst world leaders of the 20th Century.  As for US leaders:

Bill Clinton: Encouraged corruption with the incredibly bad example he set for the nation.  He bombed Kosovo into oblivion.  Responsible for the deaths of American soldiers in Somalia.  Tried to put a socialized health care system in place.  Signed a bill that banned scary-looking (but otherwise normal) guns.

Jimmy Carter: Really screwed over the econonmy and hurt the military (remember Desert One?).<span id='postcolor'>

*cough*Richard Nixon*cough*

Anyone who supports a party with Tricky Dick in it has absolutely no right to slag Bill Clinton for being corrupt.

And for the record, I think Nixon got a raw deal. he was pretty much doing what all the other american politicans were doing, but ended up reviled for it

[M_S_Holder 0]

George Dubya is an absolute dumbass. He declared war on the intangible (terrorism). This war is never going to end--like the war on drugs, crime, etc. Now the U.S. has to go around and kill everybody that the Jews don't like.

[Paratrooper 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (M_S_Holder @ Aug. 06 2002,01:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">George Dubya is an absolute dumbass.  He declared war on the intangible (terrorism).  This war is never going to end--like the war on drugs, crime, etc.  Now the U.S. has to go around and kill everybody that the Jews don't like.<span id='postcolor'>

Thats dangerous talk! Though I accept your point on the "War Against Terror", its going to be never-ending.

[Warin 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (M_S_Holder @ Aug. 06 2002,01:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">George Dubya is an absolute dumbass.  He declared war on the intangible (terrorism).  This war is never going to end--like the war on drugs, crime, etc.  Now the U.S. has to go around and kill everybody that the Jews don't like.<span id='postcolor'>

[MOD MODE]This comment borders on racism, and that is not welcome here. Please be more careful not to post such rhetoric in the future please.[/MOD MODE]

You are however right that the 'War on Terrorism' is a morass that the US may have a hard time fighting it's way free of, though the US had to make some responce to the events of 9/11.

[Col. Kurtz 0]

They basically had two choices: Go on a merry goose chace around the world poking a boyanet down the throats of any SMALL 3rd world country that cant stand up to them, or sit at home and get mauled by their own people wanting blood. Im surprised no one has mentioned our wonderful violinist, Benito Mussolini[if you have, I have missed it]

[M_S_Holder 0]

How about declairing war on the Taliban, and saying that he would declair war on anybody else that attacks the U.S. with terror?

Racist? Please, it is the truth.

[Warin 0]

Canadian Leader:

Diefenbaker. He was the first PM to really dive Canada in to debt (and while inevitable in any nation, he started it, damn him! and some of his decisions caused a lot of grief in what was a vital aerospace industry. After Avro cancelled the Arrow on the orders of the Diefenbaker government, a lot of the engineers ended up in the States.

World Leaders:

Batista, Samoza, Noriega, Marcos... take your pick.

[Warin 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (M_S_Holder @ Aug. 06 2002,01:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">George Dubya is an absolute dumbass.  He declared war on the intangible (terrorism).  This war is never going to end--like the war on drugs, crime, etc.  Now the U.S. has to go around and kill everybody that the Jews don't like.<span id='postcolor'>

That is a blatantly racist comment. Period.

And it's untrue. The fact that Arab terrorist groups that have attacked Isreal may also attack the US doesnt mean that 'the jews' are behind it. Please leave your anti-semetic comments off the board.

[ralphwiggum 6]

<span style='font-size:19pt;line-height:100%'>Can't we just stick to the f!@#ing topic and just list who you think is the worst leader?!? If you want to argue about it, go outside and go to other thread or other forums.</span>

[nordin dk 0]

Ghandi.

Has anyone mentioned Ghandi?

[Col. Kurtz 0]

I mentioned Ghandi. IN ONE OF THE BEST LEADERS EVER THREAD! What was wrong with Ghandi? Sure, he declared war on me unfailyin Civ 3 once, but besides thta, he was great. What about the Iranian leaders? And that Kohemi guy.

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Warin @ Aug. 06 2002,01:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (M_S_Holder @ Aug. 06 2002,01:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">George Dubya is an absolute dumbass.  He declared war on the intangible (terrorism).  This war is never going to end--like the war on drugs, crime, etc.  Now the U.S. has to go around and kill everybody that the Jews don't like.<span id='postcolor'>

That is a blatantly racist comment. Period.

And it's untrue.  The fact that Arab terrorist groups that have attacked Isreal may also attack the US doesnt mean that 'the jews' are behind it. Please leave your anti-semetic comments off the board.<span id='postcolor'>

Actually I am kind of jealous. Whatever nation we talk about we say "racist" only the jewish people have their own word. "Anti-semitic". I herewith declare my own word for germany: Anti-Kraut-istic!

YOU ARE ALL ANTI-KRAUTISTIC

Yeah, good one! Batista, and I have to admit that Mussolini didnt come to my mind. BUT GHANDI? why him?

Mussolini is a strange guy though! Did you watch him on TV. I mean Hitler was already pretty strange but Mussolini was making the face of a monkey when talking. Every movement of him is so childish! This guy was born to loose!  

[DarkLight 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Albert Schweizer @ Aug. 06 2002,11:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Mussolini is a strange guy though! Did you watch him on TV. I mean Hitler was already pretty strange but Mussolini was making the face of a monkey when talking. Every movement of him is so childish! This guy was born to loose!  <span id='postcolor'>

Aaaand he was killed on my birthday

Ha, that'll teach him a lesson...