EveronVetsAgainstTheWar 1 Posted July 10, 2002 I guess I'm the only pansy who likes elves I think they are intelligent, good-looking, arrogant, and excellent rangers. In most games they are too weak though so a good half elf is always fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted July 10, 2002 Oh dont get me wrong, I like elves just fine (inasmuch as they are fictional characters), its just they have become such a complete cliche that they have nearly become irrelevant in the fantasy genre Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EveronVetsAgainstTheWar 1 Posted July 10, 2002 Humamns, Evles, Dwarves, and Orcs are all cliches in the fantasy gernre... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stag 0 Posted July 11, 2002 From the deep, dank depths of my zipped archives... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Most stupid gamers ever Subject: Most stupid gamers ever Date: 11 Dec 1996 19:512 -0700 From: David Crowe Organization: Primenet (602)416-7000 Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc In an attempt to get this group's collective mind off racist Dietie & Demigods, what is Gothism, and old TSR evils, I present a story put up on the Steve Jackson Games WWW site. This story was so funny I almost hurt myself laughing. An Important Safety Tip! Mark Steuer recounts this tale: Many years ago (back when we all were still playing D & D), I ran a game where I pitted two groups against each other. Several members of Group One came up with the idea of luring Group Two into a trap. You remember the Hand of Vecna and the Eye of Vecna that were artifacts in the old D&D world where if you cut off your hand (or your eye) and replaced it with the Hand of Vecna (or the Eye) you'd get new awesome powers? Well, Group One thought up The Head of Vecna. Group One spread rumors all over the countryside (even paying Bards to spread the word about this artifact rumored to exist nearby). They even went so far as to get a real head and place it under some weak traps to help with the illusion. Unfortunately, they forgot to let ALL the members of their group in on the secret plan (I suspect it was because they didn't want the Druid to get caught and tell the enemy about this trap of theirs, or maybe because they didn't want him messing with things). The Druid in group One heard about this new artifact and went off in search of it himself (I believe to help prove himself to the party members...) Well, after much trial and tribulation, he found it; deactivated (or set off) all the traps; and took his "prize" off into the woods for examination. He discovered that it did not radiate magic (a well known trait of artifacts) and smiled gleefully. I wasn't really worried since he was alone and I knew that there was no way he could CUT HIS OWN HEAD OFF. Alas I was mistaken as the Druid promptly summoned some carnivorous apes and instructed them to use his own scimitar and cut his head off (and of course quickly replacing it with the Head of Vecna...) Some time later, Group one decided to find the Druid and to check on the trap. They found the headless body (and the two heads) and realized that they had erred in their plan (besides laughing at the character who had played the Druid)...The Head of Vecna still had BOTH eyes! They corrected this mistake and reset their traps and the Head for it's real intended victims... Group Two, by this time, had heard of the powerful artifact and decided that it bore investigating since, if true, they could use it to destroy Group One. After much trial and tribulation, they found the resting place of The Head of Vecna! The were particularly impressed with the cunning traps surrounding the site (one almost missed his save against the weakest poison known to man). They recovered the Head and made off to a safe area. Group Two actually CAME TO BLOWS (several rounds of fighting) against each other argueing over WHO WOULD GET THEIR HEAD CUT OFF! Several greedy players had to be hurt and restrained before it was decided who would be the recipient of the great powers bestowed by the Head... The magician was selected and one of them promptly cut his head off. As the player was lifting The Head of Vecna to emplace it on it's new body, another argument broke out and they spent several minutes shouting and yelling. Then, finally, they put the Head onto the character. Well, of course, the Head simply fell off the lifeless body. All members of Group Two began yelling and screaming at each other (and at me) and then, on their own, decided that they had let too much time pass between cutting off the head of a hopeful recipient and put the Head of Vecna onto the body. SO THEY DID IT AGAIN!... [killing another PC] In closing, it should be said that I never even cracked a smile as all this was going on. After the second PC was slaughtered, I had to give in (my side was hurting)... And Group Two blamed ME for all of that... So let that be a warning to you - don't let your head get cut off unless you really know what you're doing. -- Bob Apthorpe # # # -- David "No Nickname" Crowe No generalization is true -not even this one. <span id='postcolor'> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted July 11, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wardog @ July 11 2002,21:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">From the deep, dank depths of my zipped archives... </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Most stupid gamers ever Subject: Most stupid gamers ever Date: Â Â 11 Dec 1996 19:512 -0700 From: Â Â David Crowe Organization: Primenet (602)416-7000 Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc In an attempt to get this group's collective mind off racist Dietie & Demigods, <span id='postcolor'><span id='postcolor'> And here in all it's glory is the actual complete news discussion.... Most stupid gamers ever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted July 11, 2002 The thing that makes 99% of rpgs crap is for the most part their not all the rp like and secondly their set in the stinkin past with wizards and fairies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frizbee 0 Posted July 12, 2002 Although I agree it would be nice to see some more roleplaying games set in modern times, the main problems I have with these so called RPG's is the linear nature of the gameplay. It doesn't matter if you are Chaotic Evil, or Lawful Good, you still have to complete the game the same way. SUre, there are some sub-plots and quests that allow you to be evil, but the main quest is the same. (Take the start of Never Winter Nights) You still have to get the Creatures back to cure the plague. Why? if you're evil, what would you care about some poor dying wretches. Then you have people who stand on the same street corner forever. Never going home or moving. ANd never buying anything from other people. And then, to top it all of, you have character classes that just shouldn't be involved in the main quests. Ie. What is an elven ranger going to be doing in a huge city? It is a racial trait of elves that they don't like leaving their own cities or getting involved in the troubles of the world at large. It is a character trait of Rangers to prefer the cover of the forests to large cities... shouldn't then, a character playing an elven ranger be doing quests centered around the forests, only occassionally venturing into the cities. And WHY CAN'T WE PLAY AS VAMPIRES? Who else thinks it would be cool to complete the game as a Vampire??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
