How many will play ArmA 3 solely for its realism?

[max power 21]

I was referring to the fact that the maps are large and the options for gameplay arma are many. If editors are what people want, there are games that do it so much better.

And yet, your absolute statement that no one buys the game for its editor is utterly refuted by the people who have already said they buy it at least partially for the editor, and your statement that people buy it for its openness and uniqueness is refuted by your own poll. When they say that they buy it solely for the realism, it means that even if it was not unique, they would still buy it.

[dsi24 12]

Don't you love it when an OP makes wide sweeping claims and get proven wrong by their own poll? :D

[JCDBionicman 1]

And yet, your absolute statement that no one buys the game for its editor is utterly refuted by the people who have already said they buy it at least partially for the editor, and your statement that people buy it for its openness and uniqueness is refuted by your own poll. When they say that they buy it solely for the realism, it means that even if it was not unique, they would still buy it.

I don't think my poll proves me wrong actually. You see red, but I actually see blue, a lot of blue, in fact more blue than red by a lot. I'll be less vague, and brutally honest; the kinds of people that generally join forums simply aren't very credible, and developers often discount such people's opinions. You've seen the wishlist, so you know what I'm talking about. The amount of people that agree with me is a large enough number, and actually, the results are better than I thought they would be. The numbers are enough to catch BI's attention, and that's all I care for. And though you don't think so, my arguments are also solid so as to give me credibility in the eyes of any developer that would see this thread.

Also, if you can't see that it is staunch and obvious fact that people simply do not buy ArmA 2 for it's editor, then I guess you just don't see it. As said, if people want to spend money just for an editor, there are much better options for them. Nobody who has bought ArmA 2 has the luxury, or desire to learn the complex editor. I know I bought ArmA 2 with the hope of playing large PVP battles, with immense attention to detail at gameplay options and features, not to fumble around with an unfriendly editor that doesn't even have an ingame tutorial for hours.

Edited January 18, 2013 by JCDBionicman

[Layman 1]

You couldn't possibly be serious.

Wow, I guess you are.

Furthermore, nobody should buy a game for it's modding capabilities. People should buy video games that have rich, original, varied content. I also agree that it's stupid for developers to not release their source code since it doesn't benefit anybody to do so, but that's beside the point. If you want art, buy a painting. If you want to draw a painting, buy a paintbrush.

This quote should be enough for people to stop taking you seriously, you just summed up everything everyone's been accusing you of. Saying people "should" do this or that when there is no moral/financial/serious consequence, just a purely subjective choice is absolutely ludicrous. If I want to buy a game and throw in the trash before I leave the store I have a right to. You could say I "should" of given it to someone or at least recycled it, there's a discussion.

I don't mod at all, but the fact that the game can be modded (improved indefinitely) is a huge factor and adds another reason to love these games. The significant amount of realism over other games is another factor, the freedom, the community, there are many factors as there are for every game I love and every game anyone loves.

People buy games because they like them or think they will like them, to try and fit the reasons into a couple absolutes in pointless. The point of "rich, original, varied content"-COD, the #1 shooter's popularity has nothing to do those qualities, it's the opposite, it's the predictability, people like knowing what they get before they purchase. Any title that has 2+ sequels is following a formula that works, I guess people aren't doing what they "should".

[max power 21]

the kinds of people that generally join forums simply aren't very credible

Yeah, I would guess that in your case that is very, very true. But if you have no stock in peoples' opinions, it makes me scratch my head as to why you conducted a poll to begin with- or maybe they only became unreliable once almost everyone voiced an opinion different to yours.

At any rate, since you don't care about the poll, useless poll is useless. Topic locked.

[W0lle 1050]

Nobody who has bought ArmA 2 has the luxury, or desire to learn the complex editor.

Oh. And where the hundreds and thousands of missions comes from created since the first game was released in 2001? They all magically appeared or what? Must be, cause according to you nobody who bought any of the games could have done it.

I know I bought ArmA 2 with the hope of playing large PVP battles, with immense attention to detail at gameplay options and features, not to fumble around with an unfriendly editor that doesn't even have an ingame tutorial for hours.

Name me 2 two games, just two which have an editor that allows creating missions like the ArmA2 one and which comes with an ingame tutorial that explains modding the game. Just two.

You came here to rant about missing PvP Missions because you are not able to create them on your own, and now you have the nerves to talk for everyone in the community. Ignoring everyone who says something that doesn't suit you.

There are PvP missions in ArmA2, and they can be created relatively easy in the oh-so-complex editor. The time you spent here with arguments and trying to tell us how miserable the game is you could have used to start learning some basics, then you could create any PvP mission you dream about. But it's easier to rant and wait for someone else to do the job I guess.

I have bought the games, believe it or not, because of the mission editor, because of the endless possibilities the modding offers. And I don't care at all about PvP - and now, please, stop talking for everyone here.

Thanks.