Jungle river island (thanks wrpedit)

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (carlw @ June 10 2002,05:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ebud @ June 10 2002,04:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (carlw @ June 09 2002,21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ June 09 2002,11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What's worrying me now is that, just like addons, we're going to being experiencing what might accurately be called the "Thousand Islands" disease.

Everyone's going to start making Islands and then missions for specific islands and we're all going to have to start downloading numerous islands and addons just to play anything.

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I think I scared myself.

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i totally agree, i'll prolly only release this island if its a F**king masterpeice,

otherwise i'll just keep it for self consumption with me and my m8s.<span id='postcolor'>

Carlw

How long did it take you to make all those trees, bushes etc?

I knew it would take about 2 days before people started using all the trees, bushes and TIME that was spent making the Jungle map. Not even a one request to use the work that was done.

It literally took weeks to make that map at the time. Now someone will just take all the trees, bushes etc, and make a new map using all the hard work that was done, release it with no regard on what it took to retexture all those p3d's and all the testing that was done.

It's just the beginning, and there's nothing I can do to stop it. Oh well, I knew it would happen so...

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don't worry man, its not like i wouldn't mention where i got the textures in the readme, its not copywrited material either, so it doesn't matter how you feel about the textures being used.

the fact is they're really good trees, and i don't plan on making my own.<span id='postcolor'>

Never mind, I for one really appreciate your Islands.

Why don't you capitalise and make a .wrp edit yourself, Tf it's as good as jungle everon it will be great.

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We are making a new Jungle Everon, however it's really discouraging when you get people like carlw (aka bcbud from the OFPEC forums) who say things like.."not copywrited material either, so it doesn't matter how you feel about the textures being used. the fact is they're really good trees, and i don't plan on making my own."

We're taking the time to make new textures and models for the new map, to make it something special, then to have people say "I'll use your stuff if you like it or not, because I couldn't be bothered to make my own" really makes you wonder if you should bother with it.

As ebud said, a simple email asking permission to use the textures and p3ds would not have been hard to do. I've rarely said no to anyone who has asked to use my stuff in non-commercial addons.

And surely it's not hard to say a simple "thank you" to those who made stuff for you to use?

and FFS what is with the forum name you posted under at the OFPEC? "bcbud"...

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screw it, i won't release it.

i'm sure better maps will be released in the coming days anyhow.

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In the coming days, huh ? That may be true for desert islands with some houses and roads on it.

Islands like malden have over 1000 bushes & trees on it, and very very very much aligned textures for fields, beaches and mountains.

As long as no copy&paste-function is included into WRPedit, it takes about 3 seconds to place a texture, and say - 5-8 seconds to find a certain object (bush etc.) and place it.

Add the time for map developers having a life (eating, sleeping etc.) and we'll end up with some weeks dev time, i'd say.

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carlw

Wasn't my intention to make you drop the idea, just be a little more careful on who's work you decide to use.

If you need some direction on making new textures I'll be glad to help, give you some tips or even tell you where to find royalty free, non copyrighted photos to use as a starting point.

Ebud